Any solution for CTE traffic jam?
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I think by raising the ERP prices the Goverment is not going to resolv the CTE traffic jam issue.
Anyone here got a better idea or opinion
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1) LTA can always think "out-of-the-box" by increasing the no. of lanes from the opposite direction to ease the traffic woes.Originally posted by WHATODO:I think by raising the ERP prices the Goverment is not going to resolv the CTE traffic jam issue.
Anyone here got a better idea or opinion -
They made the longest tunnel in SEA..its called KPE..9km tunnel..heard it will help CTE
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mon, wed, fri - allow even number carplates on the road
tues, thurs, sat - allow odd number carplates on the road
sunday all stay at home -
they had a good idea initially to control the total number of cars. but then they screwed it up by not controlling it well.
and i guess the main thing is they need to sole the fact that pple need to travel across the island jsut to get off and to work
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make more roads which is also impossible.
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more viaductsOriginally posted by stellazio:make more roads which is also impossible. -
Ban cars and use bicycles.
But seriously, I don't think whatever they do will ease the traffic jams around CTE. CTE leads to a lot of other expressways, and in particular, is a very popular route to TTSH.
Not to mention the number of industrial parks there and schools. -
up the prices of COEs to what they were in the 90s
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change all cars to go kart.
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Then u can walk on the days u are not supposed to be driving ...Originally posted by FireIce:mon, wed, fri - allow even number carplates on the road
tues, thurs, sat - allow odd number carplates on the road
sunday all stay at home -
its the developement of Sembawang, part Woodlands, Punggol, Sengkang and part Hougang that leads to the traffic jams on CTE today.
cos the other alternatives are Upper Serangoon (for NE side) and Thomson, and these are worse roads with twists and turns
those commuting from eastern or western sides have 2 4-lanes expressways to serve them.
CTE only 3 lanes for most of the way -
Main reason for the jam at CTE and also at other expressway: Too many entrance and exits along the expressway and they are design too close to each other.Originally posted by WHATODO:I think by raising the ERP prices the Goverment is not going to resolv the CTE traffic jam issue.
Anyone here got a better idea or opinion -
you can cause major accidents and there'll be an orgy instead of a jam.
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i dunno..but have u guys heard of the new tunnel?
called KPE?! -
This method tried in other country liao.Originally posted by FireIce:mon, wed, fri - allow even number carplates on the road
tues, thurs, sat - allow odd number carplates on the road
sunday all stay at home
Not very good, because ppl then buy another car.
One with odd number, the other with even number.
Singaporean although they complain alot, have enough money to buy two cars. Even when Singapore has the highest markup for cars in the world. This not counting the COE somemore.
China now try this method, lets see how it works there. -
x2Originally posted by mancha:This method tried in other country liao.
Not very good, because ppl then buy another car.
One with odd number, the other with even number.
Singaporean although they complain alot, have enough money to buy two cars. Even when Singapore has the highest markup for cars in the world. This not counting the COE somemore.
China now try this method, lets see how it works there.
So this thread goes to show that there really isnt anyone who can come up with a better idea, a feasible one, a complain-free one. Everyone only know how to kpkb the government becos they are just so used to doing that these days. -
Maybe they could implement a road system which allows "flexible lanes". For example in Britain, during morning peak, expressways (without central divider) will open up more lanes towards the city and vice-versa during evening peak. The drivers follow LED arrows directly above each lane ( like the ones in CTE tunnels)
The problem is that it will cost too much to reconfigure CTE. But if the govt is willing to fork out the $$, i think the problem will improve greatly. Another problem is that a change in highway code must be made to prevent accidents from happening. But i cant see this idea happening in S'pore in the near future. -
we paying money, so of course we expect the service.Originally posted by freakass:x2
So this thread goes to show that there really isnt anyone who can come up with a better idea, a feasible one, a complain-free one. Everyone only know how to kpkb the government becos they are just so used to doing that these days.
government is collecting money, and should provide the service. makes sense......
if anyone can come with a good idea, he/she can be minister liao! -
what for?Originally posted by casshern:up the prices of COEs to what they were in the 90s
last time they up COEs because there wasn't ERP. it was a 1 time fee thing, you can enter the so called 'restricted zone' how many times you like as long as you bought the 'paper' for that day.
now with erp, its per entry basis. of course this is better than getting funds from COE when there are so many gantries around. -
Very old idea.Originally posted by Ferrari_RoXz:Maybe they could implement a road system which allows "flexible lanes". For example in Britain, during morning peak, expressways (without central divider) will open up more lanes towards the city and vice-versa during evening peak. The drivers follow LED arrows directly above each lane ( like the ones in CTE tunnels)
The problem is that it will cost too much to reconfigure CTE. But if the govt is willing to fork out the $$, i think the problem will improve greatly. Another problem is that a change in highway code must be made to prevent accidents from happening. But i cant see this idea happening in S'pore in the near future.
Nichol Highway, had a central lane, 30+ years ago.
Morning rush hour, traffic direction is towards the city.
Evening rush hour, traffic direction away from the city.
When ECP, Benjamin Sheares Bridge came, the system was stopped. -
The problem is: we don't solve problems, we only shift them away.
When minor roads are congested, a link to the express way is made. This relieves the congestion at the minor road, but add to the traffic at the express way.
There are too many feeds to our express ways.
There is one being built right now, to provide yet another link to the PIE from Bedok Ave 3. This will feed additional vehicles to the PIE from Bedok. And the Tampines to Paya Lebar stretch of the PIE is always congested with slow moving traffic, during both morning and evening rush hour.
This $20mil link is being built for the convenience of motorists. -
I believe the flexible lane thing will work.. but like u guys said.. it's gonna cost more than building erp gantries.. and i already posted some solutions in another thread abt erp.. looks like nobody is reading..
so dont say there are no better solutions.. there are tonnes.. -
Raising the charges wont work, should change the timing instead 7am to 7am daily including weekends.