Lancer GlX vs Honda Civic, which one more worth?
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My dad allowed me 35k to get a less than 3 year old Lancer GLX. After that I will carry on to install some bodykit as well. However, i manage to find 3-4 year old Civics (the new one, not the VTI one) selling at around 49k-50k range. Personally I really love a civic even with it's stock looks. I also plan to drive this car at least for 5 years. May I know which will be a better investment? I'm looking at FC-wise but I know civics have better FC, but how much better? Considering i have to pay the extra 15k for the Civic, is it worth it? Or should I just save my money and go along wth the cheaper 35k lancer?
TIA! (: -
CIVIC FTW!
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For a little extra money, you get 140bhp, paddle shifters, optitron-style tachometer, electronic speedometer, etc etc
Most of all, you get the i-VTEC.
5 years later, the GLX will probably have phased out, while people will still be driving (and desiring) Civics.
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Waa.. But its 15k extra leh.. quite a lot od money.. paddle shifters? what's that?
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I will choose the Civic.
Higher resale value. U pay more but the car is worth more than Lancer.
Paddle shifters are like manual gear shifts that are not deployed traditionally using clutch. The system was designed to provide a better driving experience, especially in cities where congestion frequently causes stop-and-go traffic patterns. One is for upshifting (+); the other, downshifting (-). You just engage while cruising.
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15k is not a small sum of money.....
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woah, i think my dad got to learn from your dad man.
he wont even give me a single cent for my license -.- needless to say for a car.
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Originally posted by coldzero:
Waa.. But its 15k extra leh.. quite a lot od money.. paddle shifters? what's that?
If $15k is too much a burden, then settle for the Lancer.
No point coughing out the money painstakingly when the car will leave you eventually.
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Okay, discuss with my dad and he have got no problem with it, but 15k is still a burden though.
I got this deal, 50k for a 4 year 1.8L Civic with 70k mileage already.. Worth?
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Originally posted by coldzero:
Okay, discuss with my dad and he have got no problem with it, but 15k is still a burden though.
I got this deal, 50k for a 4 year 1.8L Civic with 70k mileage already.. Worth?
Since you are talking about a 1.8L Civic, I think FC is compromised for better power.
U have to calulate the depreciation and it also depends on the condition of the car when u view it man.
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ill go for honda
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get what you can afford is best. first hand better
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I think you should also consider whether it is accident free as well..
in my opinion, i'll go for the honda.. for that extra 15k, you'll get more goodies over the lancer.
juz my 2cents..
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NCD 0 ? Check on yr insurance, Civic is not cheap.
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Originally posted by lianamaster:
Since you are talking about a 1.8L Civic, I think FC is compromised for better power.
U have to calulate the depreciation and it also depends on the condition of the car when u view it man.
You'll be surprised at the FC. The 1.8 Civic may have equal, or even better FC than the GLX.
The 1.8 R series engine was designed specially for the 8th generation Civic, and was designed with the idea of achieving a good balance of power AND FC , while the GLX's 4G SOHC engine has been around since what, the 1980s?
Hence, with that 15k, you are not only investing in a nicer looking car with better equipment spec, you are investing in the future of modern automotive engineering technical advancement.
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http://asia.vtec.net/Engines/R18A/index.html
Some highlights
1. Fuel Economy + Power
The R18A delivers a new level of fuel economy but yet more power than the D17A. This is achieved by using the following technologies:
- Via Valve Closure Timing Control (the new i-VTEC mechanism). As explained above, we will be taking a close look at this implementation in a separate article in the near future)
- Reduced (internal) Friction from
- Pistons shot with molybdenum disulfide
- Ion plating on piston rings
- Plateau Honing
2. Increased Torque
Specific technologies used to achieve improved torque are listed as
- a new variable-length intake manifold
- Piston Oil jets (similar to those used in the B-series engines)
3. More compact dimensions
In pursuit of their "Man Max-Machine Min' principle, Honda has been introducing smaller and smaller engines. The new R18A is no exception and features a more compact size than the outgoing D17A, despite delivering an extra 100 c.c. of engine capacity. Honda R&D listed two areas for this achievement:
- narrow cam chain
- chain case with built-in oil pump
4. Quiet Operation
Engine 'noise' at both idle and when operating has been reduced with the R18A which Honda attributes to the use of a new Lower block construction for the engine block.
5. Emissions
Acheiving lower emission levels (ULEV and ZLEV being the target) is the other target Honda has for their new range of engines and to deliver a new level of (low) emissions, Honda has employed the following with the R18A :
- 2-bed catalytic converter located immediately after the mainfold
- "Leading-edge" control systems : DBW and airflow sensors
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Originally posted by nightsky87:
You'll be surprised at the FC. The 1.8 Civic may have equal, or even better FC than the GLX.
The 1.8 R series engine was designed specially for the 8th generation Civic, and was designed with the idea of achieving a good balance of power AND FC , while the GLX's 4G SOHC engine has been around since what, the 1980s?
Hence, with that 15k, you are not only investing in a nicer looking car with better equipment spec, you are investing in the future of modern automotive engineering technical advancement.
True... but TS is getting a 4 year old used car, not a spanking new one. U never know the drving habits of the previous owner. I believe the FC will not be as good as a new one since the car is aging.
But I am surprised that the FC of the 1.8 Civic is on par with 1.6 Lancer GLX.
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Originally posted by lianamaster:
True... but TS is getting a 4 year old used car, not a spanking new one. U never know the drving habits of the previous owner. I believe the FC will not be as good as a new one since the car is aging.
But I am surprised that the FC of the 1.8 Civic is on par with 1.6 Lancer GLX.
That's true too.. But to be honest, I think the chances of the previous owner of the Lancer whacking the car is much higher than a Civic, because after all, the Lancer is cheaper when new, and hence more affordable = generally speaking its easier to afford a Lancer and whack it than a Civic?
From the NEA website, Civic 1.8 5AT average urban + extra urban FC is 7.2l/100km, ie 13.88km/l.
The Lancer 1.6GLX with CVT, info not available on NEA, but I think 13.88km/l already quite hard to beat liao.
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Originally posted by lianamaster:
I will choose the Civic.
Higher resale value. U pay more but the car is worth more than Lancer.
Paddle shifters are like manual gear shifts that are not deployed traditionally using clutch. The system was designed to provide a better driving experience, especially in cities where congestion frequently causes stop-and-go traffic patterns. One is for upshifting (+); the other, downshifting (-). You just engage while cruising.
nothing beats a good old manual
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Originally posted by nightsky87:
That's true too.. But to be honest, I think the chances of the previous owner of the Lancer whacking the car is much higher than a Civic, because after all, the Lancer is cheaper when new, and hence more affordable = generally speaking its easier to afford a Lancer and whack it than a Civic?
From the NEA website, Civic 1.8 5AT average urban + extra urban FC is 7.2l/100km, ie 13.88km/l.
The Lancer 1.6GLX with CVT, info not available on NEA, but I think 13.88km/l already quite hard to beat liao.
Hence, TS has to decide whether all these is worth the $15,000 top-up for the Civic.
A $15,000 decision indeed.
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Originally posted by vito_corleone:
nothing beats a good old manual
flappy paddles suckTrue... but in cities like Singapore where jams are so common, locals seem to drive towards convenience nowadays.
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I will choose Lancer in term of good FC, cheaper price and cheaper road tax, and actually iVtec is nothing, not as expected powerful and fuel saving, if old age vtec equipped on Sir, yes, honda
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i-Vtec may not be able to beat the FC of dual VVTi, or the power of pure VTEC.
But will the lancer SOHC 4G series 30 years old engine is any better?
The lancer has neither power nor good FC
Road tax difference of only what, $242 per year? If one cant cough up 200 bucks, maybe one should seriously reconsider driving.
It's only saving grace is the low buying price.
If the Civic 1.6 FD4 is the same price as the Lancer GLX, would anyone would buy the Lancer?
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On paper technical spec all superb until you tried...If you're planning to use for 3-4 years then i suggest you go for the Lancer as what they said car models changed almost yearly.Balance 15k you can opt for other things suchs as standby for overhaul(who knows the ex-owner just know how to drive,dunno to maintain),go for STA inspection to check the chassis whether it was involved in an accident.Spare cash change wear n tear parts suchs as throttle body,tyres,air filters etc.For what driving a fancy 1.8 with no spare cash in hand once the vehicle breakdown?
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eh where to get the official fuel consumption figures?? NEA websai at where?