Esso, Shell, BP and some other brands
Which one has the best quality fuel for cars?
you can use the one used by formula one cars
Originally posted by 2cansam:you can use the one used by formula one cars
But they don't sell them in Singapore Shell right? I think you can buy them in JB, Malaysia.
is this a generic question or more specific to your vehicle?
for my tiny bike, i use esso 92, because it can take RON 91.
98 is just not economical for me
you're right, though you're looking for economic fuel or performance ? because you will save a lot more and since you can't race in Singapore , o well if you're staying in malaysia, that's another story
But doesn't using a better grade fuel means better economy for your car and healthier for your engine?
let me copy and paste
The octane rating of gasoline is a measure of how much you can compress the gasoline before it ignites, not how “good” it is.
Cars that require higher octane gas actually need that higher priced gas because the engines compress the fuel more before it ignites it. If you put regular gas in a car that requires premium, the gas will prematurely ignite when it’s being compressed and the engine will give you a knocking sound. This is bad for your car.
and...
Myth: If regular-grade fuel is good, premium must be better.
Reality: Most vehicles run just fine on regular-grade (87 octane) fuel. Using
premium in these cars won’t hurt, but it won’t improve performance,
either. A higher-octane number simply means that the fuel is less prone
to pre-ignition problems, so it’s often specified for hotter running,
high-compression engines. So if your car is designed for 87-octane
fuel, don’t waste money on premium.
Originally posted by kopiosatu:let me copy and paste
The octane rating of gasoline is a measure of how much you can compress the gasoline before it ignites, not how “good” it is.
Cars that require higher octane gas actually need that higher priced gas because the engines compress the fuel more before it ignites it. If you put regular gas in a car that requires premium, the gas will prematurely ignite when it’s being compressed and the engine will give you a knocking sound. This is bad for your car.
How about using better grade fuel for cars that doesn't require it? Does it helps the engine in any way?
Enlighten me, I'm a car-tard.
my group actually did a project on this.
we had 3 vehicles. 1.6L car, 1.3L car & a 200cc motorcycle.
we used RON95 petrol from caltex, shell & esso.
we only tested for the fuel efficiency.
our results quite consistent ah.... Caltex gave consistent good results.
Originally posted by parn:
How about using better grade fuel for cars that doesn't require it? Does it helps the engine in any way?Enlighten me, I'm a car-tard.
the day you use the car in SG, the engine is f*cked
because of the jams, traffic lights and all that other stuff that makes you stop and go, stop and go.
u should think more about keeping regular engine maintenance and not using low octane fuel (like using RON 92 when your car needs at least RON 95)
Originally posted by kopiosatu:the day you use the car in SG, the engine is f*cked
because of the jams, traffic lights and all that other stuff that makes you stop and go, stop and go.
u should think more about keeping regular engine maintenance and not using low octane fuel (like using RON 92 when your car needs at least RON 95)
I always use RON98 and above whenever possible cos they aren't that expensive in between different grades of fuel.
Originally posted by parn:I always use RON98 and above whenever possible cos they aren't that expensive in between different grades of fuel.
then you will have to calculate how economical it is between 98 and Vpower
(e.g. how much mileage you can get with a full tank of vpower compared to 98 or 95)
u don't need Vpower or 98 if you car can take 92.
its usually about dollars and cents.
most importantly, just make sure your car goes for its scheduled maintenance on time.
i don't care about brands honestly
last time with my bigger bike (1300cc), i pumped esso, shell, caltex... mostly esso because the station is nearby
ayiah once you go up to northern m'sia / southern thailand, there is only 2 types of fuel... leaded and unleaded
nothing wrong with my bike. no need to be so anal about this kind of thing, like i said its more about dollars and cents
Originally posted by kopiosatu:i don't care about brands honestly
last time with my bigger bike (1300cc), i pumped esso, shell, caltex... mostly esso because the station is nearby
ayiah once you go up to northern m'sia / southern thailand, there is only 2 types of fuel... leaded and unleaded
nothing wrong with my bike. no need to be so anal about this kind of thing, like i said its more about dollars and cents
You will have to see the specification of your engine.
Normally turbo charged engines & high rev NA engines require RON98.
Normal engines can take RON95 & 92. However for older engines it is preferable to stick to 95 because of the wear & tear. Because the chances of knocking is higher due to worn ignition circuit together with the worn piston rings resulting in compression lost.
Actually V-power is 98.Best Chem Pte Ltd sells racing fuel for motorsport events. Those racing fuel comes in RON 120 - 140. Few hundred bucks for a 20 litre tin. However the engine have to be tuned to run such type of fuel. The ECU have to be remapped. It normally applies to the Evos & the Rexes preparing for track events at Sepang.
Back to the topic, I prefer Caltex because of the anti carbon agent in the mixture. Better for your engine in the long run. Comparing with Shell V-power, it is actually still 98 but the only difference is in the anti sludging agent in the mixture. It actually cleans up the fuel system. That's why you can feel the different throttle response.
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I prefer Caltex because of the anti carbon agent in the mixture. Better for your engine in the long run
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SPC & caltex share the same refinary, the anti carbon agent is the 'cleaning agent" caltex advertise in the paper?
Originally posted by mh2:
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SPC & caltex share the same refinary, the anti carbon agent is the 'cleaning agent" caltex advertise in the paper?
yeah the pump attendant wipe wipe the pistons in the tv commercial.
Originally posted by kopiosatu:i don't care about brands honestly
last time with my bigger bike (1300cc), i pumped esso, shell, caltex... mostly esso because the station is nearby
ayiah once you go up to northern m'sia / southern thailand, there is only 2 types of fuel... leaded and unleaded
nothing wrong with my bike. no need to be so anal about this kind of thing, like i said its more about dollars and cents
wah.. hayabusa sold le?
Different engines like different fuel.. u gotta test each fuel for a few tanks.. without much difference to ur driving profile. Then u will know what fuel is good for ur car.
In general tho, caltex sells better fuel. More powerful and clean, but at the expense of slightly higher FC. depends on what u r looking for really. SHell fuels tend to give better FC, but the engine will sound a bit rough. Currently using Esso, coz of better CC discounts in my case :)
yup.. i did my school experiment that one.. found out caltex gives the best mileage leh. weird.
but still sticking to esso due to discounts.
i've heard mechanics who swear by shell, though i'm using esso.
use petrol 95 enough if you use Atom Power. it can help you to have 98 power or even v-power power. And save petrol up to 40%... my friend car previously travel 100km for 10L petrol, now his car travel more then 130km for 10L petrol and he just pump Shell 95.
Originally posted by sinicker:my group actually did a project on this.
we had 3 vehicles. 1.6L car, 1.3L car & a 200cc motorcycle.
we used RON95 petrol from caltex, shell & esso.
we only tested for the fuel efficiency.
our results quite consistent ah.... Caltex gave consistent good results.
I VOTE Caltex