Why Singaporeans still drive?
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i am doing a school project and i would like to know why are Singaporean still driving despite the highly charged using the roads.
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"face" issue.
convinience.
Extra money dunno where to keep.
Simply like to drive.
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For me, simple reason.
1. Our public transport system fails. I don't want to be packed like sardines in a rectangular-6-segment box.
2. I prefer to face traffic jams in comfort, rather than sweaty human jams.
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becos i can afford a fucking car
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simple reason.
public transport fail.
it was okay when i was in NS, reach camp by 0715hrs kind. take 1st train up to 4th of the day to camp.
but take it the same way, 1 hour later, to go to school. it's horrible.
i didnt mind taking train to camp, CDA during NS.
but it's crazy taking train to school now.
it's either...
1. there are more people in singapore.
2. they purposely like to make sardine can trains.
i think it's BOTH!
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plus the longer waiting time also
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Reasons like Being rich. Convenient, Face problem. The rest about cars are disadvantages as far as i can see.
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Sooner or later, car ownership will drop. COE has just started to increase significantly, the effect will take another 1-2years to see effect.
If a simple Hyundai Avante cost $100,000. See whether the cars on road will still increase or not? Best is to increase parking fine to $150, Season parking to $250per month. ERP one gantry is $5. Petrol tax increase by another 50%. Car insurance increase by another 100 percent. Road tax another 100percent.
I see you all tahan to drive anot? Only those really rich can afford to drive. Most of the car owner I see is just those just can make it only. Barely enough to save every month. You just need to increase the monthy maintenance and they will all cannot make it. Haha...
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Originally posted by sinicker:
simple reason.
public transport fail.
it was okay when i was in NS, reach camp by 0715hrs kind. take 1st train up to 4th of the day to camp.
but take it the same way, 1 hour later, to go to school. it's horrible.
i didnt mind taking train to camp, CDA during NS.
but it's crazy taking train to school now.
it's either...
1. there are more people in singapore.
2. they purposely like to make sardine can trains.
i think it's BOTH!more FTs
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Originally posted by zenden9:
Sooner or later, car ownership will drop. COE has just started to increase significantly, the effect will take another 1-2years to see effect.
If a simple Hyundai Avante cost $100,000. See whether the cars on road will still increase or not? Best is to increase parking fine to $150, Season parking to $250per month. ERP one gantry is $5. Petrol tax increase by another 50%. Car insurance increase by another 100 percent. Road tax another 100percent.
I see you all tahan to drive anot? Only those really rich can afford to drive. Most of the car owner I see is just those just can make it only. Barely enough to save every month. You just need to increase the monthy maintenance and they will all cannot make it. Haha...
This.
Not to mention, car is a depreciating asset unlike houses which can increase in value.
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You donno singaporeans meh?
Everytime increase prices, kpkb kpkb for awhile. After that still pay.
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Originally posted by mh2:
becos i can afford a fucking car
This is the best reason
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because our transport system is fourth-world.. out-of-this-world, yet our ministers and the planners will never admit it.
Even Johor bus system is way much better.
No use investing new buses but lousy service
that said, I also prefer car/bike than A$$-M-Mati and $B$
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I would rather drive and stay in the comfort of the car and music than to squeeze with others in train or bus. Not to mention that the waiting time and the crowd is rather... unbearable.
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I disagree that car ownership will drop.
The number of cars on our roads is controlled by the number of COEs. Currently, this is set at a growth of 1.5%. This is significantly lower than the demand.
Maybe not a Hyundai, but I remember the time when a Toyota Corolla cost $100K. The problem is not that whether people can afford cars. It is more whether they can afford the loan.
Loans will make $100K cars "affordable" to those who cannot fork out the cash.
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Originally posted by TheDream:
I disagree that car ownership will drop.
The number of cars on our roads is controlled by the number of COEs. Currently, this is set at a growth of 1.5%. This is significantly lower than the demand.
Maybe not a Hyundai, but I remember the time when a Toyota Corolla cost $100K. The problem is not that whether people can afford cars. It is more whether they can afford the loan.
Loans will make $100K cars "affordable" to those who cannot fork out the cash.
Yr income also play apart. Don't tell me those 2k per month salary guy can still get a 100k loan in 10 years. loan company are no idiot. Car are depriciate stuff and not like house, confiscated it and sell it at higher or original price.
Many those barely make it guy will be squeeze out of this car ownership. Definitely, car ownership will drop.
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social needs.
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Originally posted by mh2:
becos i can afford a fucking car
yeah!!!!
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Originally posted by caleb_chiang:
I would rather drive and stay in the comfort of the car and music than to squeeze with others in train or bus. Not to mention that the waiting time and the crowd is rather... unbearable.
Somtimes, driving can be no fun. Ass driver cut yr way. Stupid traffic jam.I onced meet a friend in City hall at 7pm. He was late for 30 mins even he left the company earlier.
Parking is another major problem. People already start digging in their lunch and you are still there trying to find a parking lot.
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cos' it is unpractical when you have to spend 1hr each waiting for a bloody bus to work and back from work.
the mrt is squeezy, but at least it is punctual. for people who have to rely to buses, it is much more convenient to drive to work. for example in bukit panjang/upper bukit timah area, some smrt services like 171, 67 takes at least 30 mins to arrive during peak hour.
car ownership will decrease, but thats mostly those who are super rich. e.g. families with more than 1 cars. these are the people most likely to sell off their extra cars.
for the average family, families with double income would most likely suck thumb and stay on with a family car.
as a result, there will be no visible improvement in the condition of the road, since each family who has a car, will still have a car, despite the higher cost.
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mian zi.
They don't know the benefits of having public transportation.
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Originally posted by Helloharun:
i am doing a school project and i would like to know why are Singaporean still driving despite the highly charged using the roads.
Control.
This research had been done before but automobile companies and associations overseas, so it's not necessary the why for singaporeans.
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Because taxis are cars too. And only singaporeans can be taxi drivers.
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Originally posted by zenden9: Yr income also play apart. Don't tell me those 2k per month salary guy can still get a 100k loan in 10 years. loan company are no idiot. Car are depriciate stuff and not like house, confiscated it and sell it at higher or original price.
Many those barely make it guy will be squeeze out of this car ownership. Definitely, car ownership will drop.
I surely agree that there will be people squeezed out of the market with higher car prices.
But my point is that the high COE prices mean that demand is still higher than supply. So we will still have a growth of 1.5%.
The installment for a $100K loan over 10 years today should be about $1K a month. Loan companies may well approve such loans for someone earning $2K a month since they won't expect him to be earning this for the rest of 10 years...
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Originally posted by TheDream:
I surely agree that there will be people squeezed out of the market with higher car prices.
But my point is that the high COE prices mean that demand is still higher than supply. So we will still have a growth of 1.5%.
The installment for a $100K loan over 10 years today should be about $1K a month. Loan companies may well approve such loans for someone earning $2K a month since they won't expect him to be earning this for the rest of 10 years...
Its funny yr explanation are so flaw. You expect him to have a job for next 10 years with such high uncertainty nowadays? Maybe occupation as teacher or sign on SAF.As I say, they are no idiot. Hauling back those car will not do them good since car are no great asset. 2k per month 100k loan for 10 years.. Ya maybe yr father loan company but not others.