Which petroleum do u pump?
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Can state the petroleum u pump? and the car you are driving?
Eg. SHell V-power or ExxonMobil Synergy 8000 or somethin....
Im using shell fusion cos its economical.wanna check if there are better ones else where. -
Depends on wat kind of car u driving..Originally posted by newfusion:Can state the petroleum u pump? and the car you are driving?
Eg. SHell V-power or ExxonMobil Synergy 8000 or somethin....
Im using shell fusion cos its economical.wanna check if there are better ones else where.
For me last time ImPrEzA, i pump esso 98 mostly..cost my house nearby no other petrol station..heee
Givache 
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for the 1st few mths after i got my car, i pump shell v power coz tats wat ferrari uses in their races, den later change to BP coz tat wat aeroplanes uses, now change to esso mobil (same company) coz tats wat my dad, mum, sis r using, so can earn more points.... haha....
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I am using Shell Fusion, Caltex Silver and BP 95Originally posted by newfusion:Can state the petroleum u pump? and the car you are driving?
Eg. SHell V-power or ExxonMobil Synergy 8000 or somethin....
Im using shell fusion cos its economical.wanna check if there are better ones else where.
So far from what i feel
Shell Fusion make the car smoother
but Caltex gives you better mileage.
BP is somewhere in the middle and it's rather ex...
But recently BP also started the 8% discount already -
what do u mean by increase mileage?
same litre of petrol but caltex silver can click more km? -
V POWER!
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Super 98! Shell!
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Guys,
There is a common misconception that more expensive the petrol (gas) the better it is for the car. So this may save you all tons of $$$.
Shell in their website have said, pumping more octanes than the car require does not give additional benefits.
http://www.shell.ca/code/motoring/tips/gasoline.html
So if you want to find out... check your instruction manual.
Before I came back to Singapore, my family first started on XO on then to V-power.. (both I think 98 octane with different additives) then i told them it's useless.. told them to switch to Super98.
Then when i came back, I read the instruction manual and found out it can work on Minimum 91 octane. But since not many places sell 91. I just use Fusion (95) now. Now..if i think of it.. save about $2.5 to $3.5 per full tank.
Unless you have a car with a damn refined engine, i guess you all should just pump the minimum octane your engine requires.
BTW, I did an experiment while i was away from singapore. On separate occasions. I tried 87, 89 and 92, 94 Octane (this country dun have anything higher than 94). I tried on a Nissan Altima and a ML500.
My conclusion? The altima which requires a minimum of 87 octane, did not differ in fuel consumption and mileage and high speed performances did not differ.
ML500, requires 92 octane. I did not try 87& 89 at normal speeds as this will damage the engine. But at highway, 89 octane will have a lagging engine performance. But 92 and 94 octane does not affect the fuel mileage. -
actually u are right.Originally posted by Ponders:Guys,
There is a common misconception that more expensive the petrol (gas) the better it is for the car. So this may save you all tons of $$$.
Shell in their website have said, pumping more octanes than the car require does not give additional benefits.
http://www.shell.ca/code/motoring/tips/gasoline.html
So if you want to find out... check your instruction manual.
Before I came back to Singapore, my family first started on XO on then to V-power.. (both I think 98 octane with different additives) then i told them it's useless.. told them to switch to Super98.
Then when i came back, I read the instruction manual and found out it can work on Minimum 91 octane. But since not many places sell 91. I just use Fusion (95) now. Now..if i think of it.. save about $2.5 to $3.5 per full tank.
Unless you have a car with a damn refined engine, i guess you all should just pump the minimum octane your engine requires.
BTW, I did an experiment while i was away from singapore. On separate occasions. I tried 87, 89 and 92, 94 Octane (this country dun have anything higher than 94). I tried on a Nissan Altima and a ML500.
My conclusion? The altima which requires a minimum of 87 octane, did not differ in fuel consumption and mileage and high speed performances did not differ.
ML500, requires 92 octane. I did not try 87& 89 at normal speeds as this will damage the engine. But at highway, 89 octane will have a lagging engine performance. But 92 and 94 octane does not affect the fuel mileage.
but why is there a min octane level ? also why is it damaging to the engine is octane level used is lower than stated in manual? -
My bro say used MOBIL lor...less comsumin for petrol..
then he say V-power...very fast kena consumed...dunno lar...he say one..me dunno -
Nice tips.Btw what is the min octane level for super 98? 98 octane?/Originally posted by Ponders:Guys,
There is a common misconception that more expensive the petrol (gas) the better it is for the car. So this may save you all tons of $$$.
Shell in their website have said, pumping more octanes than the car require does not give additional benefits.
http://www.shell.ca/code/motoring/tips/gasoline.html
So if you want to find out... check your instruction manual.
Before I came back to Singapore, my family first started on XO on then to V-power.. (both I think 98 octane with different additives) then i told them it's useless.. told them to switch to Super98.
Then when i came back, I read the instruction manual and found out it can work on Minimum 91 octane. But since not many places sell 91. I just use Fusion (95) now. Now..if i think of it.. save about $2.5 to $3.5 per full tank.
Unless you have a car with a damn refined engine, i guess you all should just pump the minimum octane your engine requires.
BTW, I did an experiment while i was away from singapore. On separate occasions. I tried 87, 89 and 92, 94 Octane (this country dun have anything higher than 94). I tried on a Nissan Altima and a ML500.
My conclusion? The altima which requires a minimum of 87 octane, did not differ in fuel consumption and mileage and high speed performances did not differ.
ML500, requires 92 octane. I did not try 87& 89 at normal speeds as this will damage the engine. But at highway, 89 octane will have a lagging engine performance. But 92 and 94 octane does not affect the fuel mileage.
Im pumping fusion(Octane95) cos my mechanic told me that the car works well wiith 95. -
whahaha ...Originally posted by [A]J:for the 1st few mths after i got my car, i pump shell v power coz tats wat ferrari uses in their races, den later change to BP coz tat wat aeroplanes uses, now change to esso mobil (same company) coz tats wat my dad, mum, sis r using, so can earn more points.... haha.... 
then when u using diesel? cos tt's what power truck n taxi using -
dont think he mentioned anything on trucks and taxisOriginally posted by 3n3mY:whahaha ...
then when u using diesel? cos tt's what power truck n taxi using -
Bismarck,
I am not an expert in this, but i will try my best to relate what my car mechanic told me about the different octane and why different cars need different octanes.
First you will come across the term "anti-knocking index" in your instruction manuals. Anti-knocking index (or AKI) is the european term for Octane.
WHy it is called AKI is because it is the index (or octane) your car requires to prevent yoru engine from "Knocking".
Before I continue, I think what my car mechanic told me applies only to fuel-injection engines. So Rolls-Royce and RX-7 owners.... dun rely on my information. hehehe. And if you are a Rolls-Royce owner, dun think paying for V-power matters to you thus dun jam up those stations offering 8% discounts.
A higher octane fuel is suppose to combust (explode) more than lower ones. When fuel is injected into the cylinder, the piston would be at the down position and when the spark ignites and explodes the fuel, it pushes the piston up to the cylinder, rotate the cams and axle.
So in a 4 cylinder engine, pistons 1 and 3 will be down and 2/4 will be up (and vice versa). The rotation of your wheels is the result of this cycle of pistons going up and down.
Thus using a lower octane fuel will not combust as much and wun push the piston as high it is supposed to and those the rotation would be as complete. This uncompleted rotation four-stroke cycle of the engine thus will cause damage. Not sure of the details, i got a sketchy picture of it, but choose not to relate to you all incase it confuses you further.
Anyway, the mechanic also say you may use a lower octane fuel if you are driving highway because the increased consistency in revving will make up for the lost rotation and would bring the machine operation into the threshold of the engine design. This however haven't been proven by him yet. And this mechanic is in North America, so his definition of "highway driving" is about 2-4 hours stretches at 130-160km/h. Not like our 20mins stretches of 90km/h at PIE.
INterestingly, I would like to point out the cars are also "timed" and localised to the market it would be should. Since most Asian countries will tax cars according to engine size, we tend to buy smaller engine sizes but demand more power from that same engine. THe same is true for Europe and that explains why alot of models will have Supercharged or Turbocharged engines (e.g. Benz Kompressors and Volvos). Japanese cars respond by incorporating Variable timing (VTEC, VVTi, VVTC).
Consequently, manufacturers will "time up" or "time down" the engine according to the market. For example, a Nissan X-trail in Singapore (timed up) uses the QR25DE engine and require a 95 Octane. But in North America, the Nissan Sentra V-Spec or Altima uses the same QR25DE (timed down) but needs only 89 Octane. The difference, X-trial has an output of 179 horsepower and the latter 175 hp.
It is possible for you to "time down" your car in Singapore to require a lower octane level. It takes about 15-20mins but you will have a decreased output by about 2-6 horsepowers. -
Yups...Originally posted by newfusion:what do u mean by increase mileage?
same litre of petrol but caltex silver can click more km?
36.x l of petrol, Caltex can clock ard 460km
but Shell can only reach ard 420... -
Hello everybody... i'm new to this forum. I've just bought a civic vtec... so can anyone tell me wat petrol to pump for Honda Civic Vtec?
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Advan_boy
I think 95 octane should be enuff.
but check your instruction manual.
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Hey newfusion,
If u wanna pump cheap and good petrol.........i reccomend the SPC(Singapore Petroleum Company) along Upper Bukit Timah Road, it has a 10% discount............u won be able to find such a dicsount anywhere else in Singapore........Well........I am driving a 2.0L Nissan Serena(MPV).................
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not only bt timah, all SPC have 10% discount...
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Hi Folks,
I'm a newbie at sgForums & this is my first post, so please bear with me. I'm currently a final year student at NTU and I'm doing research into the motor vehicle population in Singapore. So, I thought that I could contribute to the discussion here.
Research Octane Number (RON) is used as a classification of fuels here. The octane number refers to the proportion of the substance octane (C8H1
in the fuel to the proportion of heptane (C7H16). Heptane is more volatile than octane and is more likely combust prematurely in the engine. A fuel with lower octane percentage is thus less thermally stable. This may lead to a loss in power and produce a "knocking" noise.
In Singapore we use RON, the Motor Octane Number or MON may also be used to classify the fuel. The MON just uses a different test to determine the quality of the fuel. Ususally, MON is lower than RON. In the US, federal regulations stipulates using an average of RON & MON to grade the fuel, which explains why fuel in the US seems to be of a lower grade than here.
In SIngapore, there seem to be 4 main grades of fuel, all unleaded offered by the energy majors. Low (92-93), Mid (95), High (97-9 and Premium (98 with additives). Currently, the only true Premium product seems to be Shell's V-Power. However, it is the most expensive at $1.386 per litre (before discounts, rebates etc).
I've tried V-Power and the difference is noticable. The pick-up is better and I get smoother throttle response. It's the price that prevents me from putting it into my tank every time I top up. According to manufacturers specifications, my 1992 Toyota Corolla 1.6 (A) requires a minimum 93 RON fuel, so I use Fusion 95.
According to my research, 95 RON fuel satisfies 96% of all cars in S'pore and 92 RON satisfies 57%. Using a higher RON fuel provides NO benefits for your car (however, additives like in V-Power do). So, don't waste money buying a higher grade than your engine needs! -
used to pump shell fusion95 when i was driving my rover 416 back then... now pump super98 into my impreza... but if u are not tight on budget, can pump v-power... 20% more escape points... documentation on v-power seems impressive..
look out for those stations offering 6-8% discounts on fuel... -
Sandman79
GOOD POST.
I ever asked a chemical engineer before but din know anything about octanes etc
anyway you got some of my questoins answer. eheh.
yeah.. in US (North America for that matter) all pumps will put...
Octane = (RON+MON)/2 to indicate what type of fuel you are pumping. -
i notice most of e honda always pump caltex.... y?
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maybe because Honda is number 2 car here?
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I pump mobil cheapest 92 RON.