Skyline
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Can anyone provide me with information about nissan skyline
The price(+COE) of acquiring one in singapore?
(Brand new and Second Hand ones)
And is parallel import the only way to get one? -
hi..hope i can help abit. just some insights on the difficulties u are gonna face.
First of all, if i am not wrong, the GTRs were not sold in Sg, not even by Nissan. So import is the only way.
number 2. If you want a GTR, prob u need to fork out lots as they are out of production already (even in Japan) and those left in Japan wouldnt be shipped over so easily.
GTTs are more common, if u just flipped to classifieds on Sat, you would mostl ikely be able to find some there. I rem last week there were even two GTRs (or so they claim) for sale.
number 3. Such cars....if the dealer tells you that the previous owner was a 80 yr old hag that uses it for a once in a month shopping would u believe? So expect the car to have been tried and tested quite to the limits already.
Yups..thats about it. -
price is around 180k to over 200k.
COE im not sure, but yah, PI is the only way u can get one. -
the last i heard, there's this PI somewhere in sin ming got 2 pieces of brand new R34 GTRs. one got sold, dunno bout the other. prices with COE is around 230-240k. other then that, u gona have prob finding a new GTR coz they are outta production already. if you can wait, the R35 GTR is coming out sometime next year. 300 plus hps....... monster
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hehe R34 actually already got more than 300 HP.. 320 HP i think... 280 HP is just the 'official' one only..
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can't get brand new GTRs. 4 to 5 yr old ones cost from 90-110k. depending on mods/mileage. Don't forget, to mod a skyline, you'd have to fork out another 20-50k easily. Simply not worth it.
I'd rather get a 350z and mod it. or s15 cos it's cheaper to mod than a skyline. -
wouldn't mind the R33 though. it looks awesome with the veilside kit.
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S15 looks way better than the 350Z...Originally posted by zeus83:can't get brand new GTRs. 4 to 5 yr old ones cost from 90-110k. depending on mods/mileage. Don't forget, to mod a skyline, you'd have to fork out another 20-50k easily. Simply not worth it.
I'd rather get a 350z and mod it. or s15 cos it's cheaper to mod than a skyline. -
thats subjective, actually.Originally posted by HIRA:S15 looks way better than the 350Z...
but i love the sliva more. -
230-240K!!!!
that's way too exp.....
Skyline= Price of one Mercedes.........
How about Mit Evo and 350z and Celica
which one will u choose??
Based on price and performance...
(can anyone be kind enuff to display their prices+COE) -
Oh ya left out on integra
Pls list the price if possible
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thats brand new lah. here how to find brand new? buy 2nd hand u can get about 150k(my friend see in classified ads b4) to 180k.Originally posted by Car84:230-240K!!!!
that's way too exp.....
Skyline= Price of one Mercedes.........
How about Mit Evo and 350z and Celica
which one will u choose??
Based on price and performance...
(can anyone be kind enuff to display their prices+COE)
as for ITR, its about 130k new. -
Sorrie ah.....i greenhorn.......
wat is the different between GTR and ITR
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GTR- Nissan SkylineOriginally posted by Car84:Sorrie ah.....i greenhorn.......
wat is the different between GTR and ITR
ITR- Honda Integra -
Originally posted by HIRA:GTR- Nissan Skyline GT-R
ITR- Honda Integra Type R -
here's a nice question. would you pay 140k for a 3litre 350z or 180k for a 2litre s2000?
here's another question, would you pay 120k for a 3.8 litre chevy lumina?
i'm really interested in the power that can be achieve with a few tweaks to the engine block. Any experts care to comment? Really missed the engine grunts from big cc engines i heard in AU n US..
btw, the price and litres i quoted are not accurate. -
heh, another comparison, 210k for a 1.8litre lotus elise. It's malaysia owned, why the heck can't they make it more affordable..
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if proton bought into 50% of ferrari shares today, ferrari would be malaysia owned. but then, think about it hard and long. WOULD the car REALLY be a malaysian car? (and would the price drop? it IS a ferrari badge afterall, just like it IS a Lotus badge)Originally posted by zeus83:heh, another comparison, 210k for a 1.8litre lotus elise. It's malaysia owned, why the heck can't they make it more affordable..
Lotus cars, 1stly, has had a long illustrious history. 2ndly, their cars are still designed by Lotus designers, by the people who have been there, not by any malaysian proton designers. 3rdly, the car is fantastic to drive.
in other words, the only link malaysia has to the car is the cash injection into a cash strapped company, to rescue it. maybe they occasionally steal a bit of the lotus chassis magic for their cars, but by and large, lotus remains unmolested. so I wouldn't consider it a Malaysian car company. going by your little theory, nissan is french, and mazda is america. makes sense? no? well neither did what u said make any.
one more thing. the top motoring hacks of europe has never harped on Lotus being a malaysian owned company. i guess here, to us, we are sometimes shallow enough to judge a car not by the hardcore facts and merits of it, but by who owns it. -
i would pay 130k for an STi
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1st, i do understand the laws of economics, and what repercussions might arise from such a price alteration. so don't undermine me by saying "your little theory". i'm not ignorant, you adduced my assertion which was flawed.Originally posted by HENG@:if proton bought into 50% of ferrari shares today, ferrari would be malaysia owned. but then, think about it hard and long. WOULD the car REALLY be a malaysian car? (and would the price drop? it IS a ferrari badge afterall, just like it IS a Lotus badge)
Lotus cars, 1stly, has had a long illustrious history. 2ndly, their cars are still designed by Lotus designers, by the people who have been there, not by any malaysian proton designers. 3rdly, the car is fantastic to drive.
in other words, the only link malaysia has to the car is the cash injection into a cash strapped company, to rescue it. maybe they occasionally steal a bit of the lotus chassis magic for their cars, but by and large, lotus remains unmolested. so I wouldn't consider it a Malaysian car company. going by your little theory, nissan is french, and mazda is america. makes sense? no? well neither did what u said make any.
one more thing. the top motoring hacks of europe has never harped on Lotus being a malaysian owned company. i guess here, to us, we are sometimes shallow enough to judge a car not by the hardcore facts and merits of it, but by who owns it.
2nd, i did make a mistake in my post , after reading it for the second time, but like most of the time, you go on flaming forum members here before clarification.. judge yrself before you judge others.. cos everyone is flawed.
3rd, when bentley was acquired by bmw, and when the new mini was released under bmw, bmw stocks did go up. the price of the mini, like all new cars, was inflated. But over time, the price did fall.. so, my question, finally, is why the price of an elise did not dip when a new model is coming up this year. maybe cos of the lack of demand? exclusivity? lack of marketing in the peninsula, despite it's parent company's location. -
Originally posted by zeus83:
whoops. relac lah zeussie, heng tends to be quite zealous in voicing his opinion but, he really doesn't mean to flame anyone.
1st, i do understand the laws of economics, and what repercussions might arise from such a price alteration. so don't undermine me by saying "[b]your little theory". i'm not ignorant, you adduced my assertion which was flawed.
2nd, i did make a mistake in my post , after reading it for the second time, but like most of the time, you go on flaming forum members here before clarification.. judge yrself before you judge others.. cos everyone is flawed.
3rd, when bentley was acquired by bmw, and when the new mini was released under bmw, bmw stocks did go up. the price of the mini, like all new cars, was inflated. But over time, the price did fall.. so, my question, finally, is why the price of an elise did not dip when a new model is coming up this year. maybe cos of the lack of demand? exclusivity? lack of marketing in the peninsula, despite it's parent company's location.[/b]
i think it's still the brand thingy that the price hasn't dropped. traditionally, lotus has always produced cars rivalling top manufacturers like ferraris, aston martins and such. think about the reputation world wide if the prices of the elise were on par with a jap rocket?
personally, i'd prefer to mod a s2k to go fast and a 350z to look nice. one has got more "go fast" potential being light and agile whilst the other has "looks good" potential being heavy but sporty. -
Originally posted by zeus83:
Duh...
1st, i do understand the laws of economics, and what repercussions might arise from such a price alteration. so don't undermine me by saying "[b]your little theory". i'm not ignorant, you adduced my assertion which was flawed.
2nd, i did make a mistake in my post , after reading it for the second time, but like most of the time, you go on flaming forum members here before clarification.. judge yrself before you judge others.. cos everyone is flawed.
3rd, when bentley was acquired by bmw, and when the new mini was released under bmw, bmw stocks did go up. the price of the mini, like all new cars, was inflated. But over time, the price did fall.. so, my question, finally, is why the price of an elise did not dip when a new model is coming up this year. maybe cos of the lack of demand? exclusivity? lack of marketing in the peninsula, despite it's parent company's location.[/b]
I simply pointed out some facts.
is that flaming? gee sorry... next time i'll try not to use "your" (oh hey! i've only refered to y** once my entire post! and that constitutes flaming! well done!)or "you" or anything to point out that y** were the one who said wondered why lotus remains expensive even though Malaysian owned, since y** are so sensitive to it.
as for my post, not a word i've said is wrong.
y**r post of : heh, another comparison, 210k for a 1.8litre lotus elise. It's malaysia owned, why the heck can't they make it more affordable.. implies that JUST because it is malaysian owned, its no longer worth paying that much for a car whose dynamics are near beyond reproach.
other than point out that what y**'ve said does not make sense because for a performance car like Lotus to be cheap, is like asking why the heck can't they make Ferraris cheaper, I have said nothing against y**. Y** choose to consider my pointing out of certain important points as flaming, so be it. and in return, start the "look in the mirror" bullShit, so be it.
I think we all know who was the one really flaming here without so much as a thought. -
Originally posted by zeus83:
one more thing.
1st, i do understand the laws of economics, and what repercussions might arise from such a price alteration. so don't undermine me by saying "[b]your little theory". i'm not ignorant, you adduced my assertion which was flawed.
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I was never talking about law of economics or whatever thingies.
i simply pointed out, as a matter of common sense, that just becos Lotus, a prestige brand, is owned by Malaysians, does not automatically lowers its value, nor its level of design, engineering and technology.
pls look past the self delusion that people want to flame y** because y** wanted to invite discussion on the topic, and all I did was to go ahead and take up y**r offer.
and the last part about people not seeing cars for what they are, if y** feel its aimed at y** only, is not. since y**'re so sensitive about it, let me clarify. a lot of people have often pointed out that Lotus is now malaysian owned. and a lot of them similarily share the similar sentiments. hence, my last paragraph, is meant for ALL of you(not just zeus83) who think that way.