Kia Picanto... who else bought one?
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Hi Guys.Originally posted by picachu:Auto
8.) riane70 - $54,999. orange. central lock with alarm (pay $100 more), half leather seat (trade in ipod), (Sept/Oct shipment)
Me thinking of trade in ipod for V-Cool...
I wonder izit worth it or not ?
Kindly give your comments?
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Heyo Clipfone, the Ipod i think only cost a few hundred dollars. But the V-cool, phew, about 1K. Hmm, i did trade in my reverse sensor and ipod for Rike Cool, which is lower grade than V-cool. You can try your luck with these man. Squeeze squeeze squeeze...Originally posted by clipfone:Hi Guys.
Me thinking of trade in ipod for V-Cool...
I wonder izit worth it or not ?
Kindly give your comments? 
The reason i dun want the reverse sensor is because I think Picanto is small. Basically, the butt of Picanto is small and fit fit, shouldn't be a problem reversing. -
is our picanto de same size as a Getz?
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[b]can we hav a consolidation of whic type(manual/auto), color, price, free gifts, booking date
[b]Auto
1)astroken -$54999, blue diamond, $488 voucher, ipod, remote alarm @ 27Jun
2)pupakia - $53,999, blue diamond, car alarm system, reverse sensor @ 6Jun (Sept shipment)
3)Clipfone - $54999, blue diamond, car alarm system, reverse sensor, ipod . @13Jun
4) Mini-sized- $52,999, blue diamond, car alarm, rev sensor, $300 shopping voucher @23 May
5)Jazz3011 - $54,999,orange, car alarm, $100 petrol voucher, ipod @20 Jun (end Aug)
6) riane70 - $54999,orange,car alarm+central lock(top up $100), ipod(trade in for leather seats. (I GOT NOTHING FREE. sobs),booked in late July,car arriving in end september/oct
Manual
1)vinsanne - $49,999, white, $600 rebate frm vouchers 23May (July shipment)
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I have bad news for you, mate!Originally posted by tlchiam:Hi guys:
Any latest update on when is actually the next Picanto shipment ?
I just spoke to the C&C KIA salesman on Sat and he says that the Sept shipment has been further delayed to October.
Initially, this 3rd shipment of stock was supposed to arrive on early Sept, then late Sept, now it's October. God knows whether the 3rd shipment will arrive at all, if ever.
If C&C cannot even deliver a simple promise, I seriously doubt their after sales service. -
Auto
1) Pupakia - $53,999, blue diamond, car alarm system, reverse sensor @ 6Jun (Sept shipment)
2) Clipfone - $54999, blue diamond, car alarm system, reverse sensor, ipod . @13Jun
3) Mini-sized- $52,999, blue diamond, car alarm, rev sensor, $300 shopping voucher @23 May
4) Kinkichong - $51,999, Blue Diamond, Rev sensor, Rike Cool, $300 petrol voucher (Aug shipment) Booked on 22 May 04.
5) Jazz3011 - $54,999, orange, car alarm, Rev sensor, $100 petrol voucher, ipod @20 Jun (end Aug)
6) relaxman - $52,999+3,000(leather seat,sport rim,alarm/rev.sensor,t.kote), blue diamond, $400 petrol voucher(aug shipment) booked 21 may 04 (not sure whether got it expensive or not?)
7) tlchiam - $54,999. cobalt blue, centre lock, $288 rebate, i-pod,, 27 June(July/August shipment)
8.) riane70 - $54999,orange,car alarm+central lock(top up $100), ipod(trade in for leather seats. (I GOT NOTHING FREE. sobs),booked in late July,car arriving in end september/oct
Manual
1)vinsanne - $49,999, white, $600 rebate frm vouchers 23May (July shipment)
2) bowling xiao - $49,999, orange, $300 shopping voucher offset car price - 22 May
3) scorpey- $35,411(OPC), galaxy black,alarm,leather seats, $288 lucky draw@26 June
4) blue_picanto - $49,999, blue diamon, $300 voucher offset to remote alarm, rev sensor.
5) j19021974 - $32999(OPC), liquid silver, alarm, rev sensor
6) Picanto2004- $49999, blue diamond, $300 shopping voucher, 23 May. (Aug shipment)
7) neoghost - $33999(OPC), Diamond Blue, alarm, rev sensor
8.) kingfisher - $49999+3000 (leather seat, Rike cool, reverse sensor, alarm/central lock), Cobalt Blue, $600 shopping voucher, Booked on 21 May (July/Aug/Sep collection)
9) astroken -$34999(OPC), blue diamond, $488 voucher, ipod, remote alarm, rev sensor @ 27Jun
10) Chronograph - $34,999 (OPC), black, reverse sensor and alarm(trade in Ipod) @11 Jul
11) Supa4 - $49,999, White, Alarm/Central lock @ 20 May
12) fishing7 - $34,999(OPC), blue diamond, central lock/alarm, Rike cool @ 19-Jul. (Sept/Oct shipment)
13) Picachoo - S$50,999, blue diamond, central lock, alarm, reverse sensor. 6 Jun (Aug/Sep Shipment)
14) Picachu - $51,999, orange (not yet confirmed, maybe yellow), garantee coe, central lock, remote alarm, reverse sensor, ipod, $100 petrol voucher (Aug/Sep/Oct collection) @ 18 July 04. -
Did you all know that the picanto price has increaed by S$2,000 (S$1,000 each time) since its launch, both times when COE increased (by less than S$1,000).
Since then, COE prices have dipped by S$500 each time on the 23 June & 7 July biding, and by S$700 on the 21 July bid.
That means COE prices has gone down by S$1,700, so effectively, the Picanto price should have dropped by at least S$1,700, or back to the launch prices of S$49,999 for manual and S$52,999 for auto.
But C&C is taking that "act blur" approach & not reducing prices. With such huge profit margins now that COE prices have gone down, they are NOT :
1) Delivering the cars on time to those who have secured COEs
2) Bidding very low and NOT securing COE for those have booked their cars 2 months ago (probably another sales gimmic to have you buyers top up)
I hope history is not repeating itself like the what happened to the previous KIA distributor who failed to deliver the cars and ran off with customers' deposits. -
Hi Vit4WD,Originally posted by Vit4WD:Did you all know that the picanto price has increaed by S$2,000 (S$1,000 each time) since its launch, both times when COE increased (by less than S$1,000).
Since then, COE prices have dipped by S$500 each time on the 23 June & 7 July biding, and by S$700 on the 21 July bid.
That means COE prices has gone down by S$1,700, so effectively, the Picanto price should have dropped by at least S$1,700, or back to the launch prices of S$49,999 for manual and S$52,999 for auto.
But C&C is taking that "act blur" approach & not reducing prices. With such huge profit margins now that COE prices have gone down, they are NOT :
1) Delivering the cars on time to those who have secured COEs
2) Bidding very low and NOT securing COE for those have booked their cars 2 months ago (probably another sales gimmic to have you buyers top up)
I hope history is not repeating itself like the what happened to the previous KIA distributor who failed to deliver the cars and ran off with customers' deposits.
let's all cool down and not assume things; it only get worst within the forum if we all have only bad things to say about C&C-KIA.
Regarding the price increase after the May promotion; I did remember C&C-KIA guaranteeing us that the price was going to increase by $2,000 once after that weekend, and not due to the unforeseen increased COE. They initially increased it by $1,000 and then went on to $2,000. Why did they do that? The increased COE gave them more reason to increase the price they mentioned earlier. That's what they mean by early "bird catch the worm".
I do not mean any offence, however I am pretty sure that C&C-KIA will not back down and decrease the price at this point of time or any time soon. They might do so when of the same kind new model launches (just like what they are doing to the Rio now; don't quote me for this though).
As for the shipment, that's something they cannot control.
I do not know anything about the preivous KIA distributor/s however C&C-KIA has a reputation to maintance, so don't worry. The only thing we can do is wait; like many have said, the sales executives would love to close the deal too.
Others might have more to add to this... feel free
Vincent -
Maybe we can ask for free sport rims/leather seat for the delay and also the drop in coe price.Originally posted by Vit4WD:Did you all know that the picanto price has increaed by S$2,000 (S$1,000 each time) since its launch, both times when COE increased (by less than S$1,000).
Since then, COE prices have dipped by S$500 each time on the 23 June & 7 July biding, and by S$700 on the 21 July bid.
That means COE prices has gone down by S$1,700, so effectively, the Picanto price should have dropped by at least S$1,700, or back to the launch prices of S$49,999 for manual and S$52,999 for auto.
But C&C is taking that "act blur" approach & not reducing prices. With such huge profit margins now that COE prices have gone down, they are NOT :
1) Delivering the cars on time to those who have secured COEs
2) Bidding very low and NOT securing COE for those have booked their cars 2 months ago (probably another sales gimmic to have you buyers top up)
I hope history is not repeating itself like the what happened to the previous KIA distributor who failed to deliver the cars and ran off with customers' deposits.
One question: Will our picanto be in running car plate number? Meaning, if we go for outing, will our number plate be only one digit different from the rest? If it is, then it will be fun. -
No, it is slightly shorter than Getz, but certain parts can be use.Originally posted by astroken:is our picanto de same size as a Getz? -
I strongly agree with you..Originally posted by picachu:Maybe we can ask for free sport rims/leather seat for the delay and also the drop in coe price.
One question: Will our picanto be in running car plate number? Meaning, if we go for outing, will our number plate be only one digit different from the rest? If it is, then it will be fun.
We have already booked the car and secured the COE , but have to wait for 3 months or more for the shipment to come. This is really a unacceptable service from C&C. They should give us Free items like sport rims, V-kool, etc . in order to cool our anger... C & C should compensate us ....
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to be honest i hav forgotten how picanto looks like
de wait is simply too long
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Hey guys, dun dispair now.Originally posted by astroken:to be honest i hav forgotten how picanto looks like
de wait is simply too long
One of my colleague who got his Honda CIVIC within two weeks but the other one got his Toyota VIOS after waiting for 4 MONTHS....
You see, sometimes, even for other popular cars, also gotta wait a while. Just focus on the day where our Picanto meeting is and imagine the whole road all Picantos, hehe, worth the wait lah -
hi All
They have dropped the price ...
Picanto 1.1L Hatchback Auto
Transmission Automatic
Engine Capacity 1, 086 cc
Registration $140
Roadtax 6 Month
(Inc ERP rebate) $283
On the Road
(excl ins, less UMF disct)* $52,999
Picanto 1.1L Hatchback Manual
Transmission Manual
Engine Capacity 1, 086 cc
Registration $140
Roadtax 6 Month
(Inc ERP rebate) $283
On the Road
(excl ins, less UMF disct)* $49,999 -
Wah lau, Kia Picanto has dropped to its original prices due to the falling prices of COE. I have booked my car at 1K more, man!!! Frankly, if I have gotten my car, I would not have mind the fluctuations in the prices, but it like while waiting it out, you see the price going up and down like the share market. For me, I can still force myself to swallow the bitter pill. What about those who booked at S$2,000 more? Siannn, heart-pain, man.Originally posted by Vit4WD:Did you all know that the picanto price has increaed by S$2,000 (S$1,000 each time) since its launch, both times when COE increased (by less than S$1,000).
Since then, COE prices have dipped by S$500 each time on the 23 June & 7 July biding, and by S$700 on the 21 July bid.
That means COE prices has gone down by S$1,700, so effectively, the Picanto price should have dropped by at least S$1,700, or back to the launch prices of S$49,999 for manual and S$52,999 for auto.
But C&C is taking that "act blur" approach & not reducing prices. With such huge profit margins now that COE prices have gone down, they are NOT :
1) Delivering the cars on time to those who have secured COEs
2) Bidding very low and NOT securing COE for those have booked their cars 2 months ago (probably another sales gimmic to have you buyers top up)
I hope history is not repeating itself like the what happened to the previous KIA distributor who failed to deliver the cars and ran off with customers' deposits.
Think I might be going down to C&C Lengkee showroom this Saturday (31 July 2004) at between 2pm to 4pm to get a black and white confirmation on the arrival of my Picanto. At first when I booked, I was told delivery was between early to mid September. Then it became mid to end September. Latest heard from my SA is that delivery in early October!!! What is this, man? Happy, happy changed the delivery date!! Might as well tell me delivery in Christmas or better still Chinese New Year!!! Really dampen my enthusiasm. I dun mind waiting, but when the delivery dates keep changing, can get really pissed off. If they really confirm in black and white on the delivery date and still can't deliver, I will take back my deposit and book another car, maybe a Getz or Vios, whatever, better than waiting like a beggar. Anyway, Getz prices has dropped also. If you noticed, there is no more advertisements on the Picanto in the newspapers or TV commercials anymore. Just last Saturday, they took out a half page advertisement in The Straits Times Classified and only advertised on 4 four car model. No Picanto at all. Sounds fishy. OK, this coming Saturday at Lengkeng showroom. Who's keen?
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My apologies to everyone on this topic. I guess I was wrong to my earlier post. No point editing it now... So I was the one that were assuming... sorry.
Now I am on your side.... C&C did make a lot out from those that got their car at $51,999 (manual) and $54,999 (auto) and I believe quite a number of them got the COE at $27,019... which means... bad for those who got their cars at $2k more.
Anyone called up their SE to verify if they can get refund or freebies due to this?
once again... I am now on your side,
Vincent -
hi all,Originally posted by Vinsanne:My apologies to everyone on this topic. I guess I was wrong to my earlier post. No point editing it now... So I was the one that were assuming... sorry.
Now I am on your side.... C&C did make a lot out from those that got their car at $51,999 (manual) and $54,999 (auto) and I believe quite a number of them got the COE at $27,019... which means... bad for those who got their cars at $2k more.
Anyone called up their SE to verify if they can get refund or freebies due to this?
once again... I am now on your side,
Vincent
have you read the newspaper today, tt it is illegal to put less then 10% downpayment for a car. I just briefly scan thru the papers, anyone has more details? Did any1 put less then 10% of downpayment for the picanto, cos i did, so would need to know whats the situation now. got to call SA soon. -
Hi riane70,Originally posted by riane70:hi all,
have you read the newspaper today, tt it is illegal to put less then 10% downpayment for a car. I just briefly scan thru the papers, anyone has more details? Did any1 put less then 10% of downpayment for the picanto, cos i did, so would need to know whats the situation now. got to call SA soon.
I believe what you have put down is the booking fee. By the time we collect our car, we have to come up with the downpayment. Frankly speaking, even if it is so, it is to our benefit anyway because the lender can't do anything to the borrower if he or she defaults. Anyway, just follow what C&C says. It's their problem, not ours.
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Originally posted by pupakia:
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Agree, i think they should refund some freebies to us...Originally posted by Vinsanne:My apologies to everyone on this topic. I guess I was wrong to my earlier post. No point editing it now... So I was the one that were assuming... sorry.
Now I am on your side.... C&C did make a lot out from those that got their car at $51,999 (manual) and $54,999 (auto) and I believe quite a number of them got the COE at $27,019... which means... bad for those who got their cars at $2k more.
Anyone called up their SE to verify if they can get refund or freebies due to this?
once again... I am now on your side,
Vincent
We lost $2K due to ordered the car early and furthermore we have to wait for few months for the car . -
Originally posted by clipfone:
I just called my sales executive 'on behalf' for someone who bought the car at 2k more. She said, there is nothing she can do about it. Cos when one buy at the high price then, COE was supposed to be up the high side, and with that 1k or 2k extra, COE was almost guaranteed (though I do know a lot of people who got the $27,019 COE)
Agree, i think they should refund some [b]freebies to us...
We lost $2K due to ordered the car early and furthermore we have to wait for few months for the car . [/b]
I also remember that there is this inprint somewhere that stated, COE OFFSET $20,000.
I know this is all bull... but there is really nothing you can do about it.
Best is still... forget your deposit if it's less than 2k... then book again?
Vincent -
hihi, eh booking fee, but the SA told me is my downpayment, which is $3200 in total. Now i pay up $1000 in deposit liao, but my SA requires me to top up by another $200??!!Originally posted by pupakia:Hi riane70,
I believe what you have put down is the booking fee. By the time we collect our car, we have to come up with the downpayment. Frankly speaking, even if it is so, it is to our benefit anyway because the lender can't do anything to the borrower if he or she defaults. Anyway, just follow what C&C says. It's their problem, not ours. -
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You may want to check on our site, www.sgkiaclub.com under the general chat section. If we pay less than 10%, the finance cannot sue us, at the most they reposses our car. It is a loop hole and they are worrying now.Originally posted by riane70:hi all,
have you read the newspaper today, tt it is illegal to put less then 10% downpayment for a car. I just briefly scan thru the papers, anyone has more details? Did any1 put less then 10% of downpayment for the picanto, cos i did, so would need to know whats the situation now. got to call SA soon.