Proton Gen.2
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saw this car up close and personal during my trip back last weekend
i must say that it's very impressive, especially the interior. i'm rather surprised to note that the interior beats the likes of the current Camry and Accord (in my opinion - maybe cause i prefer sporty interiors, like the IS200
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don't get me wrong, i'm not biased. it's just that i've always thought Proton interiors s*cks, but this car definitely changes my opinion
not bad for a car priced at RM53,000+. probably reach singapore's shores at SGD60,000+ (just a guess)
personally, i would choose this car over the Proton Waja priced at RM61,000+. afterall, both are 1.6L. a Civic costs more than RM100,000+ (so freakin' pricey)
however, heard some rumours that the 1st batch of automatic gear boxes are problematic (sigh .... msian-made, what can we ask for?). this doesn't really affect me though, coz manual rulez!
waiting time for delivery is 6 months! goodness gracious (great balls of fire)
see the "mickey mouse" ears?? that's how my mum desribes it
ref: Star Motoring -
hmm... (looking thoughtful)
It's about time Proton started making decent cars...
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hello car fans, u can check out nice GEN-2 images from here http://www.proton.com/ but take note of the slow speed in accessing this web site. I am eyeing this model too as it is much nicer than other protons and could be more affortable than sports models of other brands. Agent says that they are introducing GEN-2 around June/July 04. Hold on the track if you can...
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welll....another cheating consumer money car.... and killing machine.....
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Wow ... great designs .... wonder if Proton collaborated with a European designer or sth ...
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Looks definitely improved alot. What about the specs?
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The exterior looks very nice but the interior looks like those technology in the 90s.... especially the handbrakes... I find it very ugly.... But Proton has gone a long way... at least this model is nicer then the proton saga.....
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got this link from a forum discussing abt this car
the 1st pic is from the Lotus M250 concept. btw, Proton owns Lotus. there goes "local design"
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i'm not defending proton, but do you actually think that RM105,000 for a Toyota Altis 1.6 is worth the money?Originally posted by thomas_the_devils:welll....another cheating consumer money car.... and killing machine.....
since when has cars in this region been cheap? this goes for most of Asia too. so sad when cars down under are so much cheaper
killing machine? just hope the bolts on the wheels are tight
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ENGINEOriginally posted by Subbx:Looks definitely improved alot. What about the specs?
Code: Proton 54PH CAMPRO
Type: In-line 4 cylinders, DOHC, 4 valves per cylinder
Bore/stroke: 76/78 mm
Displacement: 1597 cc
Compression ratio: 10:1
Max power: 82 kW/110 bhp @ 6000 rpm
Max torque: 148 Nm @ 4000 rpm
Fuel delivery: Multipoint EFI
Fuel cut-off point: 7000 rpm
ECU: Proton EMS700
Engine dimensions: 581 mm (L) x 605 mm (H) x 650 mm(W)
CLAIMED PERFORMANCE
Top speed: 190 km/h (Auto=185 km/h)
0 – 100 km/h: 10.5 secs (Auto=13.0 secs)
Fuel consumption at constant 90 km/h: 17.1 kms per litre/48.9 mpg (Auto= 15.9 kms, 45.5 mpg) -
lots of complaints abt the handbrakeOriginally posted by Praetorian111:The exterior looks very nice but the interior looks like those technology in the 90s.... especially the handbrakes... I find it very ugly.... But Proton has gone a long way... at least this model is nicer then the proton saga.....
you'll be surprised to find how much msians "bash" Proton. the company gives so many excuses for the lack of quality, often blaming them on lousy suppliers
that's just so dumb. if your supplier is lousy, why was the supplier chosen?? so typical
well .... as with every new Proton model, lots of ppl are waiting for others to be guinea pigs -
I dun think Proton will be exporting the Gen.2 to SG...
Or are they? Dun mind taking a look at it in the metal... -
nice in super purple. and nice rear.
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The proton dealer says Gen-2 will be coming into SG. This is logical cos' SG is just across the causeway. Perhaps, it will be displayed in the coming Motor Show. However, the sporty look is one thing and the performance is another. As for the price, if it is same as Jap-branded cars, I rather take Jap brands.
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Hahaha. Its a pretty good upgrade from their Wira's and Wajas! I mean from looks both interior and exterior. Looks kinda cool. But like what you peeps say... hope it holds out in one piece after some time...
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i totally agree. if the "protection" by the government was removed for Proton locally (they are currently tax-free locally, unlike other brands) they're surely gonna lose the local marketOriginally posted by PaulQ:The proton dealer says Gen-2 will be coming into SG. This is logical cos' SG is just across the causeway. Perhaps, it will be displayed in the coming Motor Show. However, the sporty look is one thing and the performance is another. As for the price, if it is same as Jap-branded cars, I rather take Jap brands.
they have let down the local market far too many times. most ppl are hoping that this image will change with this Gen.2
however, there was one particular showroom unit that could not open one of the back doors. the salesman merely said, "biasa lah", which means, "normal lah" -
i was thinking that you'll be asking for pinkOriginally posted by HENG@:nice in super purple. and nice rear. -
Hmm,Quite nice,Any ideas how much it cost here in SG?Thinking of getting one in future
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The head room for this model is too low for the rear passenger's sit. I have try sitting at the back and I have to bend my head down. Wah lua... how to sit man like that.Originally posted by eutjin:saw this car up close and personal during my trip back last weekend
i must say that it's very impressive, especially the interior. i'm rather surprised to note that the interior beats the likes of the current Camry and Accord (in my opinion - maybe cause i prefer sporty interiors, like the IS200 )
don't get me wrong, i'm not biased. it's just that i've always thought Proton interiors s*cks, but this car definitely changes my opinion
not bad for a car priced at RM53,000+. probably reach singapore's shores at SGD60,000+ (just a guess)
personally, i would choose this car over the Proton Waja priced at RM61,000+. afterall, both are 1.6L. a Civic costs more than RM100,000+ (so freakin' pricey)
however, heard some rumours that the 1st batch of automatic gear boxes are problematic (sigh .... msian-made, what can we ask for?). this doesn't really affect me though, coz manual rulez!
waiting time for delivery is 6 months! goodness gracious (great balls of fire)
see the "mickey mouse" ears?? that's how my mum desribes it
ref: Star Motoring -
Originally posted by eutjin:i was thinking that you'll be asking for pink
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Originally posted by eutjin:lots of complaints abt the handbrake
you'll be surprised to find how much msians "bash" Proton. the company gives so many excuses for the lack of quality, often blaming them on lousy suppliers
that's just so dumb. if your supplier is lousy, why was the supplier chosen?? so typical
well .... as with every new Proton model, lots of ppl are waiting for others to be guinea pigs
Unless the price is really cheap. Dont think it will sell well
in Singapore.
If even malaysian dont embrace it, well not sure how good
it will be. heard too many stories to take the risks.
I met a ex-owner of a7yr old proto Wira a showroom
He had bought a car from. He told me how happy he
was with the new car (not a proto). And we glad that the
mailage was 12km/ltr. I was thinking what so great about
12km/ltr for a 1.6ltr car. Until he mentioned that his 7 yr
old proto performed only half as good then I understand
why he so impressed.
So, it may look good but make sure it performs as good
too in the long run.
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The Gen2 definitely impresses me. It has nice interior as well as exterior. The rear certainly looks sexy. However, we are all not so sure whether its fuel consumption is high.
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please laaaaaa........i am a designer by birth......from my unbiased and artistic point of view....this Proton Gen 2 is a piece of fengshui-less machine....with so many sharp pointers incorporated into its design.....to be honest, Proton Wira and Waja look better and more decent.......
ok...take a good look at Gen 2 kar chng....at one look, it does not take an adult to tell u that it is trying to copy the Mercedes CLK Sports....and you don't have to be a genius to spot that the lower eyelids gap of the front headlamps are way too wide so much so that it looks like a HUM BAO <- a person who likes to cry and cry in cantonese.....
all the body casings 'maciam' plug-n-play without proper tightening....one cannot help but to imagine that if u speed, the parts will start to fall apart leow.....kekekekee -
anyone feel that this car is quite similar to the mazda 3? i feel that with this new look people will definitely go for this car. plus if pricing is cheap, who knows it might even be a hit. but i do know of people who would rather take MRT to work than to buy a proton. lol.