Formula 1

• Kuali Baba

  4 Jul 04, 23:57

  Schumacher's taken 9 races out of 10 as of today, but that's not the whole story! This is about the right time to start an F1 thread.
  
  Renault, BAR-Honda, Toyota, Williams-BMW and most significantly McLaren-Mercedes have rolled out major chassis and engine modifications, and Ferrari appear to have been caught on paper. They had to change strategy in Montreal and in Magny Cours today.
  
  Share the latest news, discuss the races, ask techy questions, and enjoy yourself here!
  
  PS. Brilliant overtaking move by Barrichello on Trulli on the last lap, at the last turn!
• the Bear

  4 Jul 04, 23:58

  they said that about the Mercedes-Benz engine and look at it this season
  
  anyway, i read that Mosley is going to quit.. about time..
• HENG@

  5 Jul 04, 00:00

  yeah mosley's quittin' in oct, finally! but b4 he leaves hes determined to make a mess of F1.
  
  oh... trulli kinda got caught napping there. but the McLaren seem better than the williams now, and the engine didn't explode(as we've come to expect it to)
  
  i guess, the real fight now is, who will get 2nd place?
• Kuali Baba

  5 Jul 04, 00:03

  They say he's lining Jean Todt up for the post....FFS, will we see more favours for Ferrari?
  
  Ooh, and those Americans may get a taste of their own medicine if Ralf Schumacher sues them! Personally, I think Williams should take the chance to line up Montoya's replacement for next season. If it's Gene then he needs to get his racecraft back into shape.
• the Bear

  5 Jul 04, 00:04

  Jean Todt??
  
  damn.. F1 will become Ferrari 1
• bmw_lover

  5 Jul 04, 00:06

  hm.... i heard McLaren are using back a modification of their engine last year?
• the Bear

  5 Jul 04, 00:07

  i think a hamster wheel would be better than the current one they got... keeps blowing up...
  
  think they're going to roll out a totally new one soon.
  
  

  Originally posted by bmw_lover:

  hm.... i heard McLaren are using back a modification of their engine last year?

• HENG@

  5 Jul 04, 00:08

  Originally posted by bmw_lover:

  hm.... i heard McLaren are using back a modification of their engine last year?

  no. its this year's but a lower spec, after a newer design caused the engine to keep going boom.
• HENG@

  5 Jul 04, 00:09

  Originally posted by Kuali Baba:

  They say he's lining Jean Todt up for the post....FFS, will we see more favours for Ferrari?
  
  Ooh, and those Americans may get a taste of their own medicine if Ralf Schumacher sues them! Personally, I think Williams should take the chance to line up Montoya's replacement for next season. If it's Gene then he needs to get his racecraft back into shape.

  If Todt DOES get the post, F1 is royally screwed. poor ralfie... 2 spinal fractures... anyways, hes more or less confirmed at toyota.
• HENG@

  5 Jul 04, 00:12

  Originally posted by the Bear:

  i think a hamster wheel would be better than the current one they got... keeps blowing up...
  
  think they're going to roll out a totally new one soon.
  
  

  not too bad, twin finishes in the last 2 races. its an improvement. wonder why honda's engine for sato keeps blowing up now...
• Kuali Baba

  5 Jul 04, 01:02

  More stories....speculation's that Sato runs more experimental engine set-ups and components. Why him and not test driver Davidson beats me, Richards is going to rue it when his team finish behind Renault.
  
  The Mc's are going well, Kimi and DC say the cars far less twitchy and easier to push. Chassis flex was a huge problem with the 19A, and the engine wasn't strong enough to handle it. Newey didn't have a big hand in its design, former Arrows designer Couglan did....Newey did the modifications.
  
  But does anyone else think Newey runs out of ideas sometimes? Apart from chimney exhausts, curved rear and x-wings and needle noses in recent years, the design of the bargeboards, engine cover and rear wheel aerofoils owe much to Ferrari and Renault.
• HENG@

  5 Jul 04, 14:00

  well design is often about taking what works well and making it work better. no suprises that some designs are being copied to death now.
• dansplace

  5 Jul 04, 18:30

  Originally posted by Kuali Baba:

  PS. Brilliant overtaking move by Barrichello on Trulli on the last lap, at the last turn!

  Small point but wasn't it the 2nd last corner?
• megatron

  5 Jul 04, 21:30

  [But does anyone else think Newey runs out of ideas sometimes? Apart from chimney exhausts, curved rear and x-wings and needle noses in recent years, the design of the bargeboards, engine cover and rear wheel aerofoils owe much to Ferrari and Renault.[/b][/quote]
  
  Newey confused now as he's also designing the McLaren
  boat for America Cup! haha
  pardon my ignoranec but who's MOsley? Friend of bernie?
• HENG@

  5 Jul 04, 21:48

  Originally posted by megatron:

  [But does anyone else think Newey runs out of ideas sometimes? Apart from chimney exhausts, curved rear and x-wings and needle noses in recent years, the design of the bargeboards, engine cover and rear wheel aerofoils owe much to Ferrari and Renault.

  Newey confused now as he's also designing the McLaren
  boat for America Cup! haha
  pardon my ignoranec but who's MOsley? Friend of bernie?[/b][/quote]
  hahaha! boats...
  anyways, Max Mosley is the president of the FIA.
• HENG@

  5 Jul 04, 21:50

  Originally posted by dansplace:

  Small point but wasn't it the 2nd last corner?

  oh yah. good point.
• Kuali Baba

  5 Jul 04, 23:20

  Originally posted by dansplace:

  Small point but wasn't it the 2nd last corner?

  I choose to ignore those sodding chicanes....the bane of all good F1 tracks.
• iveco

  31 Aug 04, 05:45

  McLaren finally got their act together last weekend with Kimi Raikonnen winning the Belgian GP.
  
  Anyway, who thinks F1 should have its own forum please sound out?