Misubishi Evolution
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Hi there people, I would like to hold a discussion about the Mitsubishi Evolution.
Well i personally like the Evo 6 alot followed by the Evo 8. I have got the intention to get an Evo 6 as well. I need more info on these cars. Please feel free to post ur comments & views about the pros & cons... etc etc here. Thanks -
Sorry for the spelling error in the topic. Mitsubishi Evolution.
No one got any view on it? No one here owns one? Comments on it? -
Perhaps u shld try this thread
http://www.sgforums.com/?action=thread_display&thread_id=35600 -
well i can tell u the EVO7 engine is one hell of a kickass engine, even in detuned mode.
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Then you'll go nuts when you try the E8MR .Originally posted by HENG@:well i can tell u the EVO7 engine is one hell of a kickass engine, even in detuned mode. -
take me for a ride man!Originally posted by dansplace:Then you'll go nuts when you try the E8MR . -
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Some ppl say that the Evo 4-8 aren't as good to drive as the first 3... maybe because of the machines being controlled more and more by computers... -
Perhaps it is because they cannot afford the Evo 8 MR. Evo 8 much safer and faster. If of course stability and adhesion is not your priority then yes...the first three could be your cup of tea.Originally posted by bunny2002sg:......
Some ppl say that the Evo 4-8 aren't as good to drive as the first 3... maybe because of the machines being controlled more and more by computers...
Damn....I almost bought myself an Evo8 until my GF objected. So I had to get something a little more subtle....but with a little ECU upgrading
I still achieve my dream of >240km/hr on the North South 
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I heard Mitsubishi is in trouble... Financially (since Daimler-Chrysler pulled financial support) + known problems with their Lancers which they have been keeping quiet about.
Anyone know what the problem is? Doesn't affect the Evo does it?
Almost bought an Evo 6 a couple of years ago and the day I was going to get it, there was a report in the Straits Times that they were all recalled cause of some problem with the coating on their transmission, or something.
Their aggressive advertising aside, doesn't give me a sense of security in their cars. -
Thanks Guys. So far so good in the info. Can i have more then that? What about owers or people who have drove the Evolution before, please give come feedbacks or comments. ^^
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What is "good to drive"? Who are "some ppl"?Originally posted by bunny2002sg:......
Some ppl say that the Evo 4-8 aren't as good to drive as the first 3... maybe because of the machines being controlled more and more by computers... -
Then don't buy their cars!Originally posted by Bloop...:I heard Mitsubishi is in trouble... Financially (since Daimler-Chrysler pulled financial support) + known problems with their Lancers which they have been keeping quiet about.
Anyone know what the problem is? Doesn't affect the Evo does it?
Almost bought an Evo 6 a couple of years ago and the day I was going to get it, there was a report in the Straits Times that they were all recalled cause of some problem with the coating on their transmission, or something.
Their aggressive advertising aside, doesn't give me a sense of security in their cars.
Seriously, you are not the target market for this segment i.e. high performance vehicle. You should be looking at something like Lexus. -
Huh???Originally posted by brisance:Then don't buy their cars!
Seriously, you are not the target market for this segment i.e. high performance vehicle. You should be looking at something like Lexus.
Do you know me? How do you know I'm not in their target segment? How do you know that I don't already drive a high performance car?
Also - Lexus has a better engine, with more performance upgrade possibilities, than most of the junk cars on the roads today. -
OK, humor me then. What is your high performance vehicle?Originally posted by Bloop...:Huh??? Do you know me? How do you know I'm not in their target segment? How do you know that I don't already drive a high performance car? -
Its like saying NTU vs NUS courses... unless you have been in the same course for both uni-s, no one should really be commenting on who is better. So, like brisance said, who are these people who had the wonderful privilege to drive the Evo 1-8?Originally posted by bunny2002sg:......
Some ppl say that the Evo 4-8 aren't as good to drive as the first 3... maybe because of the machines being controlled more and more by computers... -
Performance is relative... I have a DelSol with a B16B engine. Not the point anyway. The thing is you simply assume and make baseless comments... tsk3 not good.. not good... all I asked was if anyone knew what the problem with the Lancer was... and if those problems extended to the Evo range as well.Originally posted by brisance:OK, humor me then. What is your high performance vehicle?
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I'm not assuming. I made inferences from the type of statements you made. And you proved my point; a DelSol is a totally different animal from an Evo.Originally posted by Bloop...:Performance is relative... I have a DelSol with a B16B engine. Not the point anyway. The thing is you simply assume and make baseless comments... tsk3 not good.. not good... all I asked was if anyone knew what the problem with the Lancer was... and if those problems extended to the Evo range as well.
And your question about whether Evos are similarly affected by recalls involving the Lancer goes to show that you have not done any research into the car, which is why I said, you're not the target segment. -
I think you're quite childish. Just because someone brings up points about something you like that aren't good, you have to get defensive and come up with crap.Originally posted by brisance:I'm not assuming. I made inferences from the type of statements you made. And you proved my point; a DelSol is a totally different animal from an Evo.
And your question about whether Evos are similarly affected by recalls involving the Lancer goes to show that you have not done any research into the car, which is why I said, you're not the target segment.
If you're going to put it that way, an Evo is a diff animal from a WRX Sti and a diff animal from a Ferrari and a diff animal from a Skyline, etc.. all are still performance cars.
...and you did assume. If you read my post I did say i was going to buy an Evo6 when they were recalled. So yes, I am part of the target segment, and yes, people who drive 230bhp DelSols are also part of their target segment.
A target segment is not the same as a group of people who did research into something.
That problem wihich caused the Evo6 to be recalled was rectified with the second release. All this happened before someone let the cat out of the bag about the Lancer problems. All I'm asking is if anyone knows what these new found faults are, and if they affect the Evos too.
So if you know what they are spit it out, if you don't just look somewhere else. Don't go around thinking that the 2% you know about cars are everything. -
What "crap" did I come up with? All I said was that you're not the target segment. And calling others childish, I guess that says a lot about yourself.Originally posted by Bloop...:I think you're quite childish. Just because someone brings up points about something you like that aren't good, you have to get defensive and come up with crap.If you're going to put it that way, an Evo is a diff animal from a WRX Sti and a diff animal from a Ferrari and a diff animal from a Skyline, etc.. all are still performance cars.
Sure, they're different. In terms of price alone, they're different. Your point being?...and you did assume. If you read my post I did say i was going to buy an Evo6 when they were recalled. So yes, I am part of the target segment, and yes, people who drive 230bhp DelSols are also part of their target segment.
Hello? A Del Sol is 2 seater, 2WD sporty car from a pretty reliable manufacturer. In the US, it is something a father would buy for their daughter when they graduate from high school so that they can look good cruising down the boulevard. How is that the same target segment as an Evo? I'm NOT saying you can't make a Del Sol a drag monster that pulls 9s in the quarter, but that's not my point.A target segment is not the same as a group of people who did research into something.
I would expect the target segment i.e. automotive enthusiasts, to be more well-informed than the average Joe who cares only about whether any particular product which has been recalled, insofar that if said person is truly an enthusiast, he would find out within mere minutes (i.e. research) if a Lancer and an Evo are the same thing.That problem wihich caused the Evo6 to be recalled was rectified with the second release. All this happened before someone let the cat out of the bag about the Lancer problems. All I'm asking is if anyone knows what these new found faults are, and if they affect the Evos too.
See above.So if you know what they are spit it out, if you don't just look somewhere else. Don't go around thinking that the 2% you know about cars are everything.
No one claimed to know everything, so don't even try putting words in my mouth.
To my knowledge, there have been 3 major recalls for Evos, one affecting the AYC system for Evo IV through VI, an O2 sensor recall for Evos I through 7, and the other affecting the gear shift selection mechanism affecting only Evo 8. In the US, there has been a few recalls where several cars were affected by paint and weight label, minor issues. Nothing major like crankwalk in the DSMs. -
Exactly, that crap. Just because I found out there's a problem with the Lancers and want to know more about it, that automatically excludes me from your so called "target segment"?Originally posted by brisance:quote:
What "crap" did I come up with? All I said was that you're not the target segment. And calling others childish, I guess that says a lot about yourself.
My point being they're all still performance cars and manufactures do not target people who just buy one particular performance car. Well maybe Mitsubishi does, which is why they are the only Japanese car manufacturer that aren't showing a profit.
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Sure, they're different. In terms of price alone, they're different. Your point being?
Then what exaclty is your point? Is it what's mentioned above? Your idea of a targeted segment is a group of people who are already driving a car so similar to yours that they aren't going to bother buying your car?
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Hello? A Del Sol is 2 seater, 2WD sporty car from a pretty reliable manufacturer. In the US, it is something a father would buy for their daughter when they graduate from high school so that they can look good cruising down the boulevard. How is that the same target segment as an Evo? I'm NOT saying you can't make a Del Sol a drag monster that pulls 9s in the quarter, but that's not my point.
An automotive enthisiasts can also be an intelligent, informed buyer. Lots of performance cars in the market. If one isn't as reliable as it should be, buy another. An enthusiast doesn't have to be so blindly tied to one particular brand of car that he can't look past faults in it. Faults major enough to trigger a recall.
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I would expect the target segment i.e. automotive enthusiasts, to be more well-informed than the average Joe who cares only about whether any particular product which has been recalled, insofar that if said person is truly an enthusiast, he would find out within mere minutes (i.e. research) if a Lancer and an Evo are the same thing.
An Evo is basically a Lancer, but there have been significant changes it in. Seeing how I do not know what the problem with the Lancer is, how am I supposed to know if whatever it is can also be found in the Evo?
yes, see above.
quote:See above.
You don't have to state it. It shows in your replies.
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No one claimed to know everything, so don't even try putting words in my mouth.
To my knowledge, there have been 3 major recalls for Evos, one affecting the AYC system for Evo I through IV, an O2 sensor recall for Evos I through 7, and the other affecting the gear shift selection mechanism affecting only Evo 8. In the US, there has been a few recalls where several cars were affected by paint and weight label, minor issues. Nothing major like crankwalk in the DSMs.
If you only know of those 3 issues, then maybe you aren't as informed as you think you are. So based on your mindset, you aren't part of the target segment either.
All this aside, part of the target segment or not. I was only asking what the problem was. You do not have to come in all smug and arrogant. If you don't know, or don't want to tell. Just ignore the post. -
Yes. Because, repeat after me, a Lancer is not an Evo.Originally posted by BloopExactly, that crap. Just because I found out there's a problem with the Lancers and want to know more about it, that automatically excludes me from your so called "target segment"?
How is that relevant to this discussion? Even in the performance car segment, there are different classes. In your own mind maybe you believe your Del Sol is in the same performance segment as an Enzo, but I sure don't think an Evo is in the same category.
My point being they're all still performance cars and manufactures do not target people who just buy one particular performance car. Well maybe Mitsubishi does, which is why they are the only Japanese car manufacturer that aren't showing a profit.
Reading comprehension isn't exactly your forte is it?
Then what exaclty is your point? Is it what's mentioned above? Your idea of a targeted segment is a group of people who are already driving a car so similar to yours that they aren't going to bother buying your car?An automotive enthisiasts can also be an intelligent, informed buyer. Lots of performance cars in the market. If one isn't as reliable as it should be, buy another. An enthusiast doesn't have to be so blindly tied to one particular brand of car that he can't look past faults in it. Faults major enough to trigger a recall.
Which is what I said! And you said it was crap.An Evo is basically a Lancer, but there have been significant changes it in. Seeing how I do not know what the problem with the Lancer is, how am I supposed to know if whatever it is can also be found in the Evo?
1) How is an Evo "basically a Lancer"?
2) What is the problem with the Lancer?
3) How is the problem with the Lancer related with the Evo?
If A is NOT a subset of B, and B has a problem, does A have the same problem?You don't have to state it. It shows in your replies.
If you don't like my replies, then don't read them. It's a totally different thing to put words in my mouth when I never stated them.If you only know of those 3 issues, then maybe you aren't as informed as you think you are. So based on your mindset, you aren't part of the target segment either.
Well no one claimed to know everything. And since you insist that you are in the target segment, what then, are all the problems of the Evo?All this aside, part of the target segment or not. I was only asking what the problem was. You do not have to come in all smug and arrogant. If you don't know, or don't want to tell. Just ignore the post.
I did say that if you feel that there's a risk of MMC going under, then don't buy their cars! What's wrong with that advice? How was that smug and arrogant? -
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An Evo is not a Lancer? Yes, I can see you're a real enthusiat. Discussion ends here. You're talking out of the wrong orifice.
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Right, you must also think a Subaru Impreza WRX STi is an Impreza.Originally posted by Bloop...:An Evo is not a Lancer? Yes, I can see you're a real enthusiat. Discussion ends here. You're talking out of the wrong orifice. -
Yes, just like a Efini is NOT and RX7, an SiR is NOT a Civic and an Altis is NOT a Corolla...Originally posted by brisance:Right, you must also think a Subaru Impreza WRX STi is an Impreza. -
Evo and Lancer don't even share the same chassis code. So how is the Evo basically a Lancer? Go on, we're still awaiting your explanation.