How Fast Can a Van Travel, Before it Becomes Unstable?
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I like to pose this question, because I find that a Daihatsu Extol though greatly lacking in pick up, has the ability to stay rather firm on the road at above 100KmH. Approx. 110Kmh
No wobbling, no rattle, no floating sensation, just pure wind rush and tyre hum. The engine just turns into a soft whine. ( Funny it sounded noisier at low speeds )
I do note however, that crosswinds ( wind blowing across an expressway )can affect steering on such a small van at high speeds.
Disclaimer: I normally DO NOT speed. I am lawy abidding motorist, I was just testing the stability of my van. Did once only. And it's back to doing 60Kmh or 70Kmh at best. -
140km/h at most
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140km/h at most
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Been in a toyota hi-ace passenger van @ 160km/hr. It is the 2.0 litre petrol version.
The driver was a maniac, scared the s**t out of me. Van feels rather floaty at such speeds, definitely do not recommend anyone try driving a van at such speeds...... -
Been in a toyota hi-ace passenger van @ 160km/hr. It is the 2.0 litre petrol version.
The driver was a maniac, scared the s**t out of me. Van feels rather floaty at such speeds, definitely do not recommend anyone try driving a van at such speeds...... -
hey extol ah? good good. same class. i use suzuki carry. ever hit 120+ then scared already, slow down. i think stable up to 100 perhaps. at high speed, even gentle turn of steering also makes the van feel like want to overturn. our these carry/extol very light, cg very high, wheel only 13inch. maybe thats why.
hey was thinking up the wheels to 14inch, anyone knows can or not? as in any harm to the van? lta inspection? from 155R13 to say, 175/65R14? more stylo, and more choices of tires to choose. -
aiyo.....
drive van don drive so fast.......
60km/h can liao mah......
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Hi Young_One,
( Me old one ..hehehe ), I don't think it would be a good idea to continue driving at such speeds. It's firstly against the Law, and secondly, foolish - because vans aren't built to travel safely above 100Kmh.
Sometimes, I feel it is necessary to speed up and overtake certain long trail of trucks and lorries that are moving too slow, and traffic on the center lane usually don't have patience for vans overtaking and going back into the left lane. So speed then, is needed. But not upto 160Kmh lah....
Wheels are small on Extol and Carry, and I believe if we install larger sport rims and tyres, it will surely add stability but will also increase fuel consumption because of roll resistance and drag of larger heavier rims and tyres.
I think if we stick to small wheels, changing tyres will be cheaper than having a large range of expensive sporty tyres to contend with.
However, I am thinking of changing the airfilter box to K&N filters, and perhaps one of those air-intake booster units. I am also wondering if I am allowed to install a pair of front fog-lamps in the bumper of my Extol? The other thing I like are those chrome tube bumpers that wraps up from under the front of the bumper. Any leads on these two mods? -
hey shutterbug, u got time the 1-100kmh for ur extol? coz i full throttled with an extol b4 and its acceleration was faster than my civic's...
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Hi STiYaKuzA,
I don't think it would be good for my Extol to run speed-tests. It is NOT BUILT for fast acceleration. It has high torque for hauling load, but not pick up.
On a hot afternoon/day, the engine is really sluggish due to heat build up and hot ambient air. But feels really good on rainy days and early mornings or late at night, when air is cooler.
Very bad for cornering without any cargo load. But feels really firm with at least half the max cargo load.
Engine runs quieter at high speeds, noisey at low speeds. Reverse gear noisey. Consumption fair in my opinion.
I removed the orginal beeper horn that came with it, and installed a twin Hella compact trumpets. Why? Because NO ONE could hear me with those blinking beeper horns! Nearly got squashed by a 6 tonner one time because he couldn't see me for my size, and my horn too soft. Stupid factory horns.
Now I have to be careful who I honk or get a black eye, or give an old folk a heart attack. These new twin compact trumpets are MEAN. Honk in a multistorey carpark and all floors will hear it. with echo even... 120db max -
hey shutterbug, agreed, stability is best with some load. but that means fc up, so obviously i travel with no load most of the time. i also thinking put k&n filter and cold air intake. dont know where got do, and in first place, possible for our vans or not. fog lamp i dont know, but the chrome thing you want on the bumper i think cannot. inspection cannot pass. i think those cars come standard with it, no choice. but extra fix ones are not allowed. by the way, how your fc ah? i get 12+ km/l, shell 98, air con always on. are you into ICE?
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Hey Young_One,
What, on earth, is ICE? Execuse me ah, but I not very into all these fashion trend thing. Even my handphone is fit for museum display.
My FC ( fuel consumption ) is around 10Km per litre, and I use Shell 92.
Well, too bad about those chrome bumpers. I am considering fitting a K&N unit plus an air-intake booster. Later, will change the exhaust header, mid muffler, and tail-pipe muffler. Also put on a nicer looking tail-pipe.
I don't thinj it will make my van very fast or powerful, but I like the responsive feel of a mod vehicle. I can expect FC to increase a bit after these mods.
I asked about fog lamps over at www.eurovanclub.com and a forumer said that it is possible, but must be done by agent, and costs about $500 per pair. Rather ex, but they're approved ones. -
hey man. 500 is quite steep. what do you want the fog light for? really use? or for the look? if anything to do with lights at all, i was thinking change my bulb to those white light one. not HID, just white bulb. but also dont know if approved. my inspection coming end of the year, so removed the interior neon first. ICE ah, In Car Entertainment. the only thing i look forward to when taking a drive is listening to music. very satisfied with my setup. anyone else here into ICE for vans? i just changed to alpine head unit. very good. killer. highly recommend to anyone. i got the 9830. also do you know if sports rims and side skirts approved?
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abt van...i did the unthinkable and almost buang...hahahaha....i tried my friends Toyota Liteace...i hit abt 140++ then almost capsize...hahahaha no more...very dangerous...i felt car u do 140km...more safer...
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Originally posted by KhidMasAE86:abt van...i did the unthinkable and almost buang...hahahaha....i tried my friends Toyota Liteace...i hit abt 140++ then almost capsize...hahahaha no more...very dangerous...i felt car u do 140km...more safer...
wah khid...... u power sia.......
140+++ bwg..... must be like me.... 60km/h on van
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u must think mah...CG higher...
if u saying lower and smaller van... can go faster...
VW caddy is faster... among the smaller van class... cos of car geo and powerful 1.9 TDI turbo engine... top ard 180-190km/h
mine berlingo more nauh.... and less top spd...
i tried on malaysia highway.... cruising at 140 is stable...
and top ard 160 km/h... think still can go up a bit...
go KL genting then back ... 1 tank of diesel still got left.
full tank less than 40 bucks if 15 percent discount. -
I agree, as i have a friend that also drive a caddy, he can follow me almost side by side til 180km/h...Originally posted by Circuit:u must think mah...CG higher...
if u saying lower and smaller van... can go faster...
VW caddy is faster... among the smaller van class... cos of car geo and powerful 1.9 TDI turbo engine... top ard 180-190km/h
mine berlingo more nauh.... and less top spd...
i tried on malaysia highway.... cruising at 140 is stable...
and top ard 160 km/h... think still can go up a bit...
go KL genting then back ... 1 tank of diesel still got left.
full tank less than 40 bucks if 15 percent discount. quite powerful for a van,not car.....so er...circuit, all caddy in singapore can reach that speed or bcos my friend got "do" something to his vehicle>? -
stock caddy can hit 180 liao...Originally posted by bo liao:I agree, as i have a friend that also drive a caddy, he can follow me almost side by side til 180km/h... quite powerful for a van,not car.....so er...circuit, all caddy in singapore can reach that speed or bcos my friend got "do" something to his vehicle>?
modded ones can go on near 200...
my fren modded... i mean heavy mod caddy...
quater mile in 7.4 sec...
and tried on par on pick up ... magnet wif lotus elise...
and the lotus fren.. wrx sti
blow off valve wanna blow liao super loud turbo sound......still cant catch up.... getting further and further away
1.9 turbo... and turbo is quite big unit... for high compression diesel...
when u see red caddy wif those red recaro ...fake or not fake ones...
normally is modded...
ahhaha maybe when u see one...can signal a friendly chia' .... hahahaha -
Hey r u sure 1/4 mile in 7.4sec or 0-100km/h in 7.4sec coz its not easy doing it in a quart mile unless its really heavily modded...if its real than its really impressive...gotta keep a look out fot this car...Originally posted by Circuit:stock caddy can hit 180 liao...
modded ones can go on near 200...
my fren modded... i mean heavy mod caddy...
quater mile in 7.4 sec...
and tried on par on pick up ... magnet wif lotus elise...
and the lotus fren.. wrx sti
blow off valve wanna blow liao super loud turbo sound......still cant catch up.... getting further and further away
1.9 turbo... and turbo is quite big unit... for high compression diesel...
when u see red caddy wif those red recaro ...fake or not fake ones...
normally is modded...
ahhaha maybe when u see one...can signal a friendly chia' .... hahahaha
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yesh 7.4 on quater mile....
yesh heavy modded...
changed enlarged intercooler...
lowered modded suspension...
15" sports rims. on ad07 tires
internal modded like crazy...
veh..totally emptied for light wt...
tuning box...
no knoe how many thousands spent
sat in before... on a slower run on quater mile...
in 8 sec there... using G-tech -
that is crazy...must be damn fast....but i know...i once sat in porsche GT2 with my fren driving...this TDI tailing behind at 180km/h but cant go futher when my fren hit 220km/h...the van is really something man....Originally posted by Circuit:yesh 7.4 on quater mile....
yesh heavy modded...
changed enlarged intercooler...
lowered modded suspension...
15" sports rims. on ad07 tires
internal modded like crazy...
veh..totally emptied for light wt...
tuning box...
no knoe how many thousands spent
sat in before... on a slower run on quater mile...
in 8 sec there... using G-tech -
Er....sorry ..but u really sure quarter mile 7.4sec!!!!!tats KNN u know, even wrx may not do it...(i duuno how fast is rex in 1/4 mile)Originally posted by Circuit:stock caddy can hit 180 liao...
modded ones can go on near 200...
my fren modded... i mean heavy mod caddy...
quater mile in 7.4 sec...
and tried on par on pick up ... magnet wif lotus elise...
and the lotus fren.. wrx sti
blow off valve wanna blow liao super loud turbo sound......still cant catch up.... getting further and further away
1.9 turbo... and turbo is quite big unit... for high compression diesel...
when u see red caddy wif those red recaro ...fake or not fake ones...
normally is modded...
ahhaha maybe when u see one...can signal a friendly chia' .... hahahaha
Only red colour caddy is modded ah?no other colours?cos lik me, i mod my car, my friend also mod, sure got more den 1 lah..hahahaha
OMG, hv to get van liao.faster den civic...
Not dun trust u but i ask my friend,he drive a yellow caddy, he say not possible lea....mod till stage 2 best bout 7++ sec only......is 0-100km/h.....top speed bout 230km/h only,can "tiak" a B18 ...but the torque can fight wid wrx tat is true(bout 320Nm).He also say how te hell issit possible,ask me i got see wrong or not, or u typo mistake... when the TDI caddy in europe best timing is only 5.8 to 6 sec for 0-100km/h...how to get 7.4sec in 1/4 mile... David copperfield sitting in the passenger seat & David Blain sitting in the cargo area,together "choot" power....den get 7.4 in 1/4mile..
Sorry, no offence but, my friend say cannot lah, he driving caddy he know,stock torque at 210Nm,quite powerful>>>he got mod abit,now only 9+sec...
He also told me b4 his friends caddy lik crazy, at NShighway, got 5 or 6 of them go there play,at 170km/h(my friend driving yellow caddy)beside is another 2 red caddy(testing top speed), smile at him den jus jump forwards wid their caddies...not inch forward...he floor, best at 188km/h, but the other 2 red colour knn is already dunno how many car length away from him...
Hmm..tink mayb u & my friend saying the same person,the red colour caddy..skally u ppl know each other...hehe...i go ask wat my friend name den i post to ask u, if i not wrong, my friend & them is in a same "club".... -
hmmm maybe is i hear wrong...
should be 7.4 .. 0-100..
but farking fast...
think we arre toking abt the same person...
got others sure mod one...
but i oni knoe my fren his one.. knn modded extensively
yesh wrx now cannot make it.. anyway pump one time... pedal.. 2 dollars gone...
compare to caddy... one time... few cents niah.... -
Haha, ok. my friend name is "something" aka POLICE , true, he say tat red caddy gv modded B18 b4(he was also there), glue wrx.Tat red caddy is now the fastest caddy he say,that he know of. Tink mayb u also know my friend, cos i told him bout ur nick.hehehe...Originally posted by Circuit:hmmm maybe is i hear wrong...
should be 7.4 .. 0-100..
but farking fast...
think we arre toking abt the same person...
got others sure mod one...
but i oni knoe my fren his one.. knn modded extensively
yesh wrx now cannot make it.. anyway pump one time... pedal.. 2 dollars gone...
compare to caddy... one time... few cents niah.... -
ahhah i knoe who u saying liao xxx aka police...wahhahah
rite?.. 3 letter...
the yellow one wif two 15" cevin vega subwfr behind . ahahaha
bass damn loud.