Will you buy a second hand BMW 318? Any adivce?
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hi everyone,
just like to hear your comments if you have around 90-100K, will you buy a second hand BMW 318? which is round 2-3 years old.
Or would u rather get some new Jap car. + bodykits.
Also what are the key points to look for if you look for a second hand car?
Cheerz,
Ricardo -
90-100K cash? get a new BMW then ...
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how can get new BMW?
even the new 1 series...also more than 100K..should be around 120k.. -
most of the previous owners (yuppies or ah beng) would have used the car to chiong to thailand and come back many times over. most likely the engine already kanna internal injuries. thaz what ppl tell me. if can, get a new one.Originally posted by ricardo79:hi everyone,
just like to hear your comments if you have around 90-100K, will you buy a second hand BMW 318? which is round 2-3 years old.
Or would u rather get some new Jap car. + bodykits.
Also what are the key points to look for if you look for a second hand car?
Cheerz,
Ricardo -
BMW now currently is a very popular car for people which is rich mostly people travel around(working) they normally will change their cars when is abt 2 or 3 years.So i can say some BMW i have seen is really low mileage and most of them because of troublesome they will send the cars to agent for service.Currently i have a few BMW but now onli left 1 all sold liao if u r interested can email to me at [email protected] confirm accident free.
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hi,Originally posted by KamenRider:most of the previous owners (yuppies or ah beng) would have used the car to chiong to thailand and come back many times over. most likely the engine already kanna internal injuries. thaz what ppl tell me. if can, get a new one.
how do u know whether got "internal injuries"? how to tell?
I am just a normal driver..no exp. in checkin out these "hidden secrets"
Cheerz! -
just my 2 cents worth, not all are like that though,Originally posted by ricardo79:hi,
how do u know whether got "internal injuries"? how to tell?
I am just a normal driver..no exp. in checkin out these "hidden secrets"
Cheerz!
assume the second hand dealer tempers with the odometer, which will reflect low mileage (not all are like that though), you will not be able to tell by just reading from the meter on mileage, then gotta look at tell tale signs.
experts will be able to tell more. i am just a layman but got some experience.
i kanna one second hand car, at first it was ok, then when i travelled up north, the engine oil dried up pretty quick. found out the piston was already worn off after thorough checking, and the engine block has hairline crack which symptoms would only show under thorough test. from then on the car spewed thick white smoke.
dealers are good at hiding flaws and refuse to take responsibility later, or make it difficult for you to come back at them.
another dealer bought my this car and is putting it up for sale again, i wish the innocent buyer good luck.
other wear and tear can be spotted by experience eyes, get help from experts if you wanna buy one.
seriously consider new ones if you can afford. -
btw city road conditions are more damaging to the engines, the constant start - stop and short distance travels will wear the engine more and unevenly. doesnt necessarily mean low mileage is good.
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90k is enough for you to down ma ...Originally posted by ricardo79:how can get new BMW?
even the new 1 series...also more than 100K..should be around 120k.. -
hi KamenRider,Originally posted by KamenRider:just my 2 cents worth, not all are like that though,
assume the second hand dealer tempers with the odometer, which will reflect low mileage (not all are like that though), you will not be able to tell by just reading from the meter on mileage, then gotta look at tell tale signs.
experts will be able to tell more. i am just a layman but got some experience.
i kanna one second hand car, at first it was ok, then when i travelled up north, the engine oil dried up pretty quick. found out the piston was already worn off after thorough checking, and the engine block has hairline crack which symptoms would only show under thorough test. from then on the car spewed thick white smoke.
dealers are good at hiding flaws and refuse to take responsibility later, or make it difficult for you to come back at them.
another dealer bought my this car and is putting it up for sale again, i wish the innocent buyer good luck.
other wear and tear can be spotted by experience eyes, get help from experts if you wanna buy one.
seriously consider new ones if you can afford.
what ar your views if u were to buy a second hand car from the "official dealer" eg. SM Motors / Tan Chong type...
Will it be "safer"? I dun think they will 'change the mileage;..etc..
also will they provide you with warranty?
Cheerz!
Ricardo -
my humble opinion, yes, getting from official dealer is a much safer bet. they earn and stand by their reputation most of the time. they dont stinge on little claims from the customers. though official and non official dealers do give you the warranty, the non official ones will show you another face when you go back to them knowing that they can bully you and get away with it.Originally posted by ricardo79:hi KamenRider,
what ar your views if u were to buy a second hand car from the "official dealer" eg. SM Motors / Tan Chong type...
Will it be "safer"? I dun think they will 'change the mileage;..etc..
also will they provide you with warranty?
Cheerz!
Ricardo
i have observed that many look like ah bengs and gangsters in 2nd hand dealer shops. looks aside, i have a no. of bad experiences dealing with them before.
never tried buying from official ones before but like i said above, it is a safer bet.
good luck -
send the BMW to VICOM or AAS and ask them to do a check for you. They have such service. They are the experts in detecting any minor damges.
The fee is about S$120 and they can detect any accident repair b4, engine condiction ok etc.
If the seller refused to have it vertified by VICOM or AAS, then obviously there are things to hide.
As for 2nd hand dealer, I if the car is VICOM certified, check the dates of the certification. If the date is more than 2 months, get them to send to VICOM or AAS again.
Do be warned that nowadays, there are many 2nd hand car dealers renting out the cars that are supposed to be sold. You can easily find them in ST classifieds ads.
So be careful.
1 more thing, if you can afford BMW, you can must also be prepared for the high service / maintenance costs and fuel consumption. These cost are MUCH MUCH higher than japanese cars.
Hope this will help you
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FYI , just sold one 5 year old 728i for 100 KOriginally posted by ricardo79:hi everyone,
just like to hear your comments if you have around 90-100K, will you buy a second hand BMW 318? which is round 2-3 years old.
Or would u rather get some new Jap car. + bodykits.
Also what are the key points to look for if you look for a second hand car?
Cheerz,
Ricardo
, you may want to consider is as a side thought -
hi ricardo79,
did you eventually decided to get a 2nd hand 318i?
i am in the same situation as you, am thinking of getting a 2001 or 2002 E46.... let me know of your latest views....
with $100k, we could either get a brand new Camry, or 2-3 yr old 318.. -
Adjusting the odormeter is illegal.
No dealer will dare to adjust it anymore.
Cos you just have to bring to any mechanic, and they will be able to spot for you.
I heard of a few dealers who adjusted the ordormeter, then got blackmailed by the buyers who found out. Threatened to call the police.
In the end, gotta pay a few thousand bucks to "shut" the buyer up. -
if i would have to get 3 series,then i will get myself 320...bigger and more sporty...Originally posted by ricardo79:hi everyone,
just like to hear your comments if you have around 90-100K, will you buy a second hand BMW 318? which is round 2-3 years old.
Or would u rather get some new Jap car. + bodykits.
Also what are the key points to look for if you look for a second hand car?
Cheerz,
Ricardo -
if u say this....then the proportion of those ah bengs having those jap cars are even higher in ratio to going over to KL or thailand....just take a look at the N/S HW...Originally posted by KamenRider:most of the previous owners (yuppies or ah beng) would have used the car to chiong to thailand and come back many times over. most likely the engine already kanna internal injuries. thaz what ppl tell me. if can, get a new one.
if a conti engine can get "internal injuries" just like that, then you don't even have to look at a japanese engine...cos' generally speaking, a conti's engine is much "tougher" than a japanese engine. -
in the 1st place, you CANNOT compare a BMW with a JAPANESE CAR.Originally posted by ricardo79:hi everyone,
just like to hear your comments if you have around 90-100K, will you buy a second hand BMW 318? which is round 2-3 years old.
Or would u rather get some new Jap car. + bodykits.
Also what are the key points to look for if you look for a second hand car?
Cheerz,
Ricardo
even though its a 2-3yr old BMW, its still more sturdy than a new Japanese model in terms of build quality etc.
drive a BMW and you'll know what i mean.
anyway, i'll go for the BMW anytime. -
in short... get a reliable dealer if you're going for a 2nd hand dealer.Originally posted by KamenRider:just my 2 cents worth, not all are like that though,
assume the second hand dealer tempers with the odometer, which will reflect low mileage (not all are like that though), you will not be able to tell by just reading from the meter on mileage, then gotta look at tell tale signs.
experts will be able to tell more. i am just a layman but got some experience.
i kanna one second hand car, at first it was ok, then when i travelled up north, the engine oil dried up pretty quick. found out the piston was already worn off after thorough checking, and the engine block has hairline crack which symptoms would only show under thorough test. from then on the car spewed thick white smoke.
dealers are good at hiding flaws and refuse to take responsibility later, or make it difficult for you to come back at them.
another dealer bought my this car and is putting it up for sale again, i wish the innocent buyer good luck.
other wear and tear can be spotted by experience eyes, get help from experts if you wanna buy one.
seriously consider new ones if you can afford.
the above mentioned "flaws" or "internal injuries" are all service problems which should be rectified during the warranty periods. if they aren't, Performance get hell cos no BMW owners will let them off so easily...imagine paying for a hefty sum and having to drive such S#%T?
go back to TTS (Teo Tian Seng) if you're seriously wanting to buy a 2nd hand Bimmer. they're authorised by Performance Motors and all 2nd hand cars have 1 yr warranty.
check it out urself. -
i believe his 90k - 100k means his budget not his cash
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Ya and their in-line 6 sound much nicer too than the 4 cylinderOriginally posted by Danisdead101times:if i would have to get 3 series,then i will get myself 320...bigger and more sporty...