Singapore cracks down on anime piracy
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My colleague's nephew kena tio ar
hmmm... i long time no donwload from BT already
currently using Youtube or Veoh
recently found a webby with online streaming, not bad ar
hate company who licensed the anime though.
ODEX vcd/dvd- i dun really like coz their subbing is really terrible.
i think i prefer online where it is fan-subbed which is much more accurate and better, coz at least you will see some japanese word with meaning given of course.
somemore ODEX so slow, wait till hair turned grey still haven come out.
Some anime they not gonna show too. even if shown, still will have to go through censorship
downloading anime is much faster. n no censorship too
but then even if ODEX improved their service, i still wun buy lor. -
Seriously, if this is our mindset, we could see why ODEX is suing.
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Basically, there's a product/service in the market the consumer want. But the sole monopoly, did not bother to meet the expectations and requirements of this market.
So now the market is being witch-hunted for finding an alternate source to to meet its demand.
Its almost like the thief shout catch thief..... -
cauz .. cauz... lazy to cre8 one.Originally posted by Gordonator:why don't want? the people there are very creative and funny.
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yea, their price is heavenly. not everyone can afford to buy those disc. how SS expect us to buy when we can get the vid on the net?Originally posted by allentyb:ya........ try and buy their FMA, and that time, i bought it. was this YEAR. ok, and then i get to know of this series last year, through cable, so i decided to invest some money into DVD, after all, DVD pwn VCD, just what, till now, it has not been released at all
if they want people to support that product, at least produce one box set, every month mah, why do we have to wait so long, just for one set of DVD, i don't want to spend money on VCD >.< i don't expect them to come up with wonderful typesetting, -
I don't wish to repeat myself, but I have to.Originally posted by Mid9Sun:Basically, there's a product/service in the market the consumer want. But the sole monopoly, did not bother to meet the expectations and requirements of this market.
So now the market is being witch-hunted for finding an alternate source to to meet its demand.
Its almost like the thief shout catch thief.....
1. Consumers expect something, if never meet, they will go illegal.
2. Providers won't bother, they will sue if you go illegal.
What ODEX is thinking, they must be legal, irregardless of quality or the time it takes to reach here.
What consumers is thinking, they want quality and must be speedy, otherwise they will go illegal.
These two issues are linked, but ODEX is seeing and only seeing the illegal downloads as threats. It has nothing to do with what consumers is expecting. ODEX is suing them for illegal downloads. -
mayi...u go start a proper anime company we all support u oneOriginally posted by ndmmxiaomayi:I don't wish to repeat myself, but I have to.
1. Consumers expect something, if never meet, they will go illegal.
2. Providers won't bother, they will sue if you go illegal.
What ODEX is thinking, they must be legal, irregardless of quality or the time it takes to reach here.
What consumers is thinking, they want quality and must be speedy, otherwise they will go illegal.
These two issues are linked, but ODEX is seeing and only seeing the illegal downloads as threats. It has nothing to do with what consumers is expecting. ODEX is suing them for illegal downloads. -
I don't watch anime. But I have to admit, huge market.Originally posted by Mid9Sun:mayi...u go start a proper anime company we all support u one
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if yu look at the dvd price compare to the r1. r2 or the taiwen r3 release. Odex pricing are consider cheap. Their DVD quality ain't as bad as what most people have said having gotten to view one of their DVDs. The only thing they lose out are the extras that fans like me want so badly T.T Their packaging surely will lose out to the import, maybe even to bluemax naruto released. Their subbing are kinda improving, but sometimes, got bug like that, the sub will like go on the next sence and cover the next sub line, i must rewind and forward -.- Other than that, still alright. I am agaisnt Odex witch hunt on the people that download fansub, however, that's nothing much we can do. If we fans don't like Odex dvd release, there's always yesasia, amazon, ani-play(in sg) to get our import DVDs xD For Taiwen import, there's a shop at chinatown point xD
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Not sure if this was posted previously. From site Digg. Someone there submitted this article about Torrent Freak, on Odex.
And here are some of the more popular reader's comments off Digg:Isnt that extortion?
And some reader's comments off Torrent Freak:
You know what I'd say to a letter like that? "Hello garbage" *toss*
Sorry, an IP proves nothing and a letter like that is called EXTORTION.
A single drop of water just appeared to the right of about 3 million anime fan's faces.
"In 2007 a decision was made in the company to start targeting people who share their material via BitTorrent after they claimed their sales had dropped 60-70 percent in just 2 years."
Maybe this is because these anime shows are cheap, lame, and are played on adult swim, and really have little to no adult appeal.
Never ever respond to these letters.
never even admit you received them.
throw them out, never sign for a letter either.He commented on the local news media that the gloating comments were made a couple of months ago, where it in fact had been made on the 1st of August, making it more like a couple of weeks ago.
Word for word, where do you think this guyÂ’s integrity stands?
I will understand him if he had targeted PEOPLE(above 20, who work and gets paid) instead of children, I mean come on, you expect every 12 year old kid on the planet to fully know about copyright and stuff? Charging them 3k? Seriously, at least give them a warning first or charge them for less, like you know 100 bucks. -
There's a write-up on CNET Asia. You can find quite a lot there. As I've said, either he tio sabo or he's lying.Originally posted by zanemiller:Not sure if this was posted previously. From site Digg. Someone there submitted this article about Torrent Freak, on Odex.
And here are some of the more popular reader's comments off Digg: -
In the US, there are some companies who have fallen on very hard times. So in an effort to save themselves, they sue for patent subscription fees. This is no different. There are lots of companies who made many bad decisions and simply don't just roll over and die.Originally posted by ndmmxiaomayi:I don't wish to repeat myself, but I have to.
1. Consumers expect something, if never meet, they will go illegal.
2. Providers won't bother, they will sue if you go illegal.
What ODEX is thinking, they must be legal, irregardless of quality or the time it takes to reach here.
What consumers is thinking, they want quality and must be speedy, otherwise they will go illegal.
These two issues are linked, but ODEX is seeing and only seeing the illegal downloads as threats. It has nothing to do with what consumers is expecting. ODEX is suing them for illegal downloads.
An example will be SCO, which just lost its case against Novell.
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I do buy my Anime DVDsOriginally posted by ndmmxiaomayi:Seriously, if this is our mindset, we could see why ODEX is suing.
But I don't buy them locally
ODEX quality really CMI
However, even now if they improve their quality and service to American Standards, I'll still rather pay more to buy overseas then to buy from them from how they handle things
Yes I'm boycotting Odex for life. -
Of all things, they learnt this.Originally posted by Fingolfin_Noldor:In the US, there are some companies who have fallen on very hard times. So in an effort to save themselves, they sue for patent subscription fees. This is no different. There are lots of companies who made many bad decisions and simply don't just roll over and die.
An example will be SCO, which just lost its case against Novell. 
But then again, if they aren't desperate, they would have come up with better ideas. -
That's why I say ODEX is suing. Legal or not, we have bypassed ODEX totally and make them useless. I guess it's a tit for tat. Users are left with no way out, so they won't give ODEX a damn chance of living as well.Originally posted by elindra:I do buy my Anime DVDs
But I don't buy them locally
ODEX quality really CMI
However, even now if they improve their quality and service to American Standards, I'll still rather pay more to buy overseas then to buy from them from how they handle things
Yes I'm boycotting Odex for life. -
What a brilliant way to piss off your potential customers
Bravo Odex -
They are sueing those that downloadOriginally posted by ndmmxiaomayi:That's why I say ODEX is suing. Legal or not, we have bypassed ODEX totally and make them useless. I guess it's a tit for tat. Users are left with no way out, so they won't give ODEX a damn chance of living as well.
Not those bypassing them by purchasing through other means
Ultimately people do not buy from them because they sell poor quality products at ridiculas prices
And who in the right mind still buy VCDs these days
They made themselves useless
I guess it is easier to pick on kids then to relook at their products and marketing strategy if even one is in place.
This is a free economy
It just so happens they have a 'monopoly' here
The problem is students do not have the means to buy from other sources like working adults.
Anyway, at how things are being handled they have just lost themselve a potential customer even if things improve. -
Like I said, some companies think customers are just cows to be milked, and that serving the customers' needs is not required. If this is the attitude they want to take, if by anything, these suits will just speed their demise faster.Originally posted by ndmmxiaomayi:Of all things, they learnt this.
But then again, if they aren't desperate, they would have come up with better ideas.
In fact, I am hoping for that to happen. -
Btw even if you buy overseas, they have to go thru the censorship board and you just pay S$1.80 per disc nia
No biggie really and the prices are still worth it for the better packaging, better subs and better sound and image quality -
They won't die. Haha.Originally posted by Fingolfin_Noldor:Like I said, some companies think customers are just cows to be milked, and that serving the customers' needs is not required. If this is the attitude they want to take, if by anything, these suits will just speed their demise faster.
In fact, I am hoping for that to happen. -
Well, if they are declared bankrupt and there's no hope of repayment, banks will repossess it.Originally posted by ndmmxiaomayi:They won't die. Haha. -
I doubt if this will ever come true. But I'm counting down to it.Originally posted by Fingolfin_Noldor:Well, if they are declared bankrupt and there's no hope of repayment, banks will repossess it. -
They said their sales fell by 80% since 2004.Originally posted by ndmmxiaomayi:I doubt if this will ever come true. But I'm counting down to it.
With this ruffling of feathers, it will fall even further. -
they say doesn't mean its true. maybe they were lying to earn pityOriginally posted by Fingolfin_Noldor:They said their sales fell by 80% since 2004.
With this ruffling of feathers, it will fall even further. -
Blatant liars. Although broadband take up rate was high at that period, P2P wasn't. P2P started spreading here like wild fire around 2005, which was also the period when RIAA started suing people like mad.Originally posted by Fingolfin_Noldor:They said their sales fell by 80% since 2004.
With this ruffling of feathers, it will fall even further.
Edit for clarity.