ANother Refurbished Train?
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Does this mean all refurhished train featured new ATO mode while all old C151 train use old ATO mode? Old ATO mode better than new ATO mode?
Yesterday I took 075/076 train on SB. Sometimes the train speed was slower on certain time while moving inside the underground. I noticed that on certain time, the speed on SB was quite slow but the speed on NB is normal.
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3. Possible to undergo refurbishment
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009/010
063/064
105/106 was running on service yesterday featuring fashion advertisement. Not sure about the name as I could not see the whole picture when I was boarding this train in underground. I think it is Calvin advertisement. -
no. all are still on old ATO mode but 021/022 ran on new ATO mode for that particular trip.Originally posted by Novawin™:Does this mean all refurhished train featured new ATO mode while all old C151 train use old ATO mode? Old ATO mode better than new ATO mode?
Yesterday I took 075/076 train on SB. Sometimes the train speed was slower on certain time while moving inside the underground. I noticed that on certain time, the speed on SB was quite slow but the speed on NB is normal.
SB had its ATO codes changed late last month. now it halts briefly on SB at crossover after YCK before accelerating to limit. it also halts earlier moving out of BIS resulting in slower cruise inside tunnel to BDL. on fast mode, out of BIS it halts at same position just before entering tunnel, brakes briefly and accelerates to 70 as per last time. these two changes have increased travelling time on that sectors and trains now tend to run on fast more at AMK-NOV to make up for it. no changes observed on NB. -
Oh I see. So that's mean 021/022 only has new ATO mode? All other refurbished train still using old ATO mode?
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okie, the new ATO mode was only used for one instance, and it switched back to old ATO when it turned back at MRB. it may be something that can be set by the PTO, or it is only limited to SB. i'm not sure yet, need to board again on a SB trip.Originally posted by Novawin™:Oh I see. So that's mean 021/022 only has new ATO mode? All other refurbished train still using old ATO mode?
but now the speculation is whether the other refurbished trains have this new ATO mode installed. after all, it's only a software change. -
I'm a student.Originally posted by Novawin™:Oceane, you seemed to be well informed and even track all car numbers of which are in service or are currently undergoing refurbishment. It seemed to me that you are working either MRT driver driving the train or MRT personnel looking at the train passing the station all the time, aren't you?
EDIT: Student seemed too general... I'm a 15-year-old student.
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*NEW!!!*
015/016 has finished refurbishment and is now on service. Spotted it today at Bishan, unable to catch TRN though. However, pictures posted by Novawin™ and myself can prove that it HAS been refurbished.
EDIT: Here are the proves.Originally posted by Novawin™:Update
Refurbished 015/016 is now running for service on NSL today! Boarded it from Raffles Place on SB at 6.25pm.
Originally posted by Oceane:
So... with that, I shall update the list:
Took it this morning...
Transport Report
TRN: 078
Registration Number: 015/016
Train Model: Kawasaki 1G C151 Trains (REFURBISHED)
Station: Khatib Station (NS14)
Time & Date: 0548 HRS, 20/7/2007.
A special note that 063/064 is not undergoing refurbishment. Saw it at least 4 times this week, however I'll provide other possible numbers.
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Classification Of 1G Kawasaki C151 Trains
1. Refurbished
2. Undergoing refurbishment
3. Possible to undergo refurbishment
4. Unrefurbished
1. Refurbished
001/002
003/004
005/006
007/008
011/012 (NEW this month)
015/016 (NEW this month)
021/022
027/028
035/036
083/084
2. Undergoing refurbishment
019/020 (Not confirmed)
053/054 (Not confirmed)
3. Possible to undergo refurbishment
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009/010
013/014
041/042
4. Unrefurbished
017/018
023/024
025/026
029/030
031/032
033/034
037/038
039/040
043/044
045/046
047/048
049/050
051/052
055/056
057/058
059/060
061/062
063/064
065/066
067/068
069/070
071/072
073/074
075/076
077/078
079/080
081/082
085/086
087/088
089/090
091/092
093/094
095/096
097/098
099/100
101/102
103/104
107/108
109/110
111/112
113/114
115/116
117/118
119/120
121/122
123/124
125/126
127/128
129/130
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Originally posted by Novawin™:
I'll help you backtrack advertised trains.
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[b]3. Possible to undergo refurbishment
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009/010
063/064
105/106 was running on service yesterday featuring fashion advertisement. Not sure about the name as I could not see the whole picture when I was boarding this train in underground. I think it is Calvin advertisement.[/b]
023/024 - IKEA Tampines
039/040 - Courtesy In Singapore
075/076 - F&N Canned Drinks
085/086 - Singapore Symphony Orchestra
089/090 - Sony Ericsson Handphones
105/106 - CKIN2U Products
107/108 - Fairprice XTRA -
Update
Refurbished 015/016 is now running for service on NSL today! Boarded it from Raffles Place on SB at 6.25pm. -
Oceane, you are 5 - 10 minutes earlier before me posting abt 015/016. I was uploading the picture from my hp onto my computer.
Originally posted by Novawin™:
Oceane, you seemed to be well informed and even track all car numbers of which are in service or are currently undergoing refurbishment. It seemed to me that you are working either MRT driver driving the train or MRT personnel looking at the train passing the station all the time, aren't you?
I'm a student.
EDIT: Student seemed too general... I'm a 15-year-old student.
I was a student but now I graduated from poly already this year. -
Lawl. I spotted it at Bishan around 6.10pm... looks like it was the same train after all. Hah.Originally posted by Novawin™:Oceane, you are 5 - 10 minutes earlier before me posting abt 015/016. I was uploading the picture from my hp onto my computer. I was a student but now I graduated from poly already this year.
Anyways, this is the official second train of the month... a once in a blue moon opportunity to release 2 trains in a month... maybe they will have the 3rd? -
November 2006: 005/006
December 2006: 083/084
January 2007: 001/002
February 2007: 035/036
March 2007: 021/022
April 2007: 003/004
May 2007: 007/008
June 2007: 027/028
July 2007: 011/012 and 015/016
I guess that we could expect 019/020 to come out for service at end of this July. If not, then it must be on next month.
I noticed that SMRT is refurbishing the C151 train in sequence order in according to its car number based on the list as above. I think 009/010 and 013/014 will be the next train to be refurbished. -
Trains are refurbished based on the year of production. However they may sometimes choose other random trains.Originally posted by Novawin™:November 2006: 005/006
December 2006: 083/084
January 2007: 001/002
February 2007: 035/036
March 2007: 021/022
April 2007: 003/004
May 2007: 007/008
June 2007: 027/028
July 2007: 011/012 and 015/016
I guess that we could expect 019/020 to come out for service at end of this July. If not, then it must be on next month.
I noticed that SMRT is refurbishing the C151 train in sequence order in according to its car number based on the list as above. I think 009/010 and 013/014 will be the next train to be refurbished. -
[quote]Originally posted by Oceane:
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085/086 - Singapore Symphony Orchestra
Ahm.. You missed out 3024-3023 and 3085-3086 is undergoing an advertisement change. Some sort of furniture product, i think. I peeked into Bishan Depot last week from a Isuzu Coach -
KHI trains pick for MLU not based on year of production but mainly fleets from Changi Depot. Only 1 train from Ulu Pandan which is 83/84 upgraded.
*ATO: got old and new ATO meh? -
got! or was it there all the while before refurb but we dunno?Originally posted by Manager433:*ATO: got old and new ATO meh?
if only can record the motor sound for u.
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Don't really understand some things... LOL.Originally posted by Manager433:KHI trains pick for MLU not based on year of production but mainly fleets from Changi Depot. Only 1 train from Ulu Pandan which is 83/84 upgraded.
*ATO: got old and new ATO meh?
Firstly, refurbishment takes place at Bishan Depot (A.K.A SMRT HeadQuarters)
Secondly, trains are interchangable.
Thirdly, what is MLU? o_O -
Took it this morning...
Transport Report
TRN: 078
Registration Number: 015/016
Train Model: Kawasaki 1G C151 Trains (REFURBISHED)
Station: Khatib Station (NS14)
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Can't be different motor sound because they are still using the same dc motor, same gcu, same convertor. Nothing new was added to the under chassic except the both dt car.Originally posted by ^tamago^:got! or was it there all the while before refurb but we dunno?
if only can record the motor sound for u. -
MLU: Mid Life Upgrade.Originally posted by Oceane:Don't really understand some things... LOL.
Firstly, refurbishment takes place at Bishan Depot (A.K.A SMRT HeadQuarters)
Secondly, trains are interchangable.
Thirdly, what is MLU? o_O
Bishan Depot not HQ lah. HQ is at North Bridge Rd where you can find aunty saw -
er. the sound of a slower motor on the last-phase.Originally posted by Manager433:Can't be different motor sound because they are still using the same dc motor, same gcu, same convertor. Nothing new was added to the under chassic except the both dt car. -
Every thing under the 4 Motor Car under chassic still the same. Nothing new was added. Maybe could be due to the new install saloon panels that are providing better sound proof thats why the motor sound different.Originally posted by ^tamago^:er. the sound of a slower motor on the last-phase. -
but it was clear that the throttle was turned on for a longer period to reach the target speed wor.Originally posted by Manager433:Every thing under the 4 Motor Car under chassic still the same. Nothing new was added. Maybe could be due to the new install saloon panels that are providing better sound proof thats why the motor sound different.
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I'm quite impressed by the refurbishing of the Kawasaki trains. Now if only SMRT pours the same amount of money into mantaining their buses.
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Their focus now would be to refurbish the kawasaki trains and i dont think SMRT Buses will have major refurbishment or major maintenance until they are satisfied with the refurb trainsOriginally posted by SBS3625D:I'm quite impressed by the refurbishing of the Kawasaki trains. Now if only SMRT pours the same amount of money into mantaining their buses.