Originally posted by c751bLoVuR:Wow... My favourite station... Anyway, should be Central instead of Northern? Weird.
The power failure was from Newton to Marsiling station..
Originally posted by wenjie639:Blackout in Northern Singapore
A 15-MINUTE power failure which hit the northern parts of Singapore disrupted train services and retail businesses on Thursday afternoon.
The outage, which lasted from about 1.30 pm to 1.45 pm, halted some trains in the Ang Mo Kio and Bishan areas as the doors could not open properly.
Shops had to resort to manual practices as their cash machines stopped working and shoppers could not use their credit cards to pay.
Said a sales assistant of a shoe shop in Junction 8 shopping mall at Bishan: 'We had some customers in the shop when the blackout hit us. Our cash machine couldn't work so we had to write out invoices and make the customers pay in cash.'
Singapore Power is investigating the cause.
http://www.straitstimes.com/BreakingNews/Singapore/Story/STIStory_571239.html
Blackout in Bishan, AMK
A BRIEF power cut in the early afternoon caused confusion in the Ang Mo Kio and Bishan areas on Thursday when it affected trains, shopping malls, homes, schools and industrial buildings.
A cable fault had caused a trip in the electrical supply, according to preliminary findings, said SP Powergrid. It did not specify which areas were affected.
The 15-minute disruption between 1.30pm and 1.45pm, stalled 17 trains between Orchard and Marsiling on the North-South Line.
Backup emergency power had to be triggered for emergency lighting and ventilation inside the trains, some of which had stopped in the tunnels between stations, said SMRT.
At 13 stations between Newton and Marsiling, there was no train service.
At five underground stations, the air-conditioning stopped and emergency lighting had to be provided.
http://www.straitstimes.com/BreakingNews/Singapore/Story/STIStory_571239.html
Midday blackout hits Bishan, Ang Mo Kio
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SMRT will be conducting track maintenance works at the following MRT track locations between 1 and 4.30am from 30 August to 5 September 2010
LRT train stalls
TEN commuters were trapped on Friday in a Light Rail Transit (LRT) train for 35 minutes, as heavy rain poured outside.
At about 11am, the train was on its way from Fajar to Bangkit station along the Bukit Panjang LRT line when the train suddenly stopped. Trains running in the opposite direction were not affected.
SMRT, owner of SLRT, which operates the line, said the disruption was due to a track fault and not related to the weather.
When the disruption was made known, SLRT technicians arrived on site in about 10 minutes to rectify the problem.
No one was injured in the incident, said the Singapore Civil Defence Force.
http://www.straitstimes.com/BreakingNews/Singapore/Story/STIStory_572051.html
Originally posted by LHDW:LRT train stalls
TEN commuters were trapped on Friday in a Light Rail Transit (LRT) train for 35 minutes, as heavy rain poured outside.
At about 11am, the train was on its way from Fajar to Bangkit station along the Bukit Panjang LRT line when the train suddenly stopped. Trains running in the opposite direction were not affected.
SMRT, owner of SLRT, which operates the line, said the disruption was due to a track fault and not related to the weather.
When the disruption was made known, SLRT technicians arrived on site in about 10 minutes to rectify the problem.
No one was injured in the incident, said the Singapore Civil Defence Force.
http://www.straitstimes.com/BreakingNews/Singapore/Story/STIStory_572051.html
BPLRT fault again.
S$60b to be spent over next decade to double S'pore rail network
SINGAPORE: Singapore will spend S$60 billion over the next decade
to double the rail network, Prime Minister Lee said at his National Day
Rally speech on Sunday.
He said this will involve the Downtown Line, Thomson Line and Eastern Region Line.
Mr Lee said he understands the congestion problems commuters face, especially during morning peak periods.
He said the Circle Line has helped improve the situation, and more will
be done, including running an extra train during peak hour on the
North-East Line by next year.
Also, more trains (NEL) will be bought and systems upgraded (EWL & NSL) to cope with expected traffic growth.
He said the government is doing everything possible to improve things,
but he hopes Singaporeans can understand that MRT trains will always be
packed during peak traffic.
"(Such a situation) happens in all cities. Please be patient. (It's) not
possible to guarantee that every passenger can get onto every first
train, but the next train will just be a few minutes away," he said.
Originally posted by youyuan:Also, more trains (NEL) will be bought
Finally!
I hope C751A and add another new train model....
Perhaps add more C751A lets say another 30 more ?
Originally posted by SMRT/SBS Transit:Perhaps add more C751A lets say another 30 more ?
No. I mean C751A add another train model.
Example: In NSL & EWL C151 C651 and C751B
NEL: Only C751A
CCL: Only C830....
i think that C951s may be on the CCL
both 3rd rail
Time for a newer and faster rolling stock
LTA to upgrade train signalling system
SINGAPORE: The Land Transport Authority (LTA) said the upgrading
of the train signalling system will result in shorter waiting times for
commuters and a 20 per cent improvement to its existing capacity.
It said the upgrading, which will start next year, applies to the North-South and East-West lines.
Plans to further enhance the rail network were first revealed by Prime
Minister Lee Hsien Loong last Sunday during his National Day Rally.
Among the plans announced were the Jurong East Modification project, which is targeted for completion in May 2011.
LTA said by 2012, the North-South/East-West line capacity is expected to
increase by about 15 per cent and with the modification, commuters
would be able to enjoy a shorter waiting time of between two and three
minutes.
The current waiting time during peak periods is 2.5 to 4.5 minutes.
Singapore's rail network will be expanded and upgraded over the next 10
years to cater to the increased demand in commuter travel.
The current train signalling system on the North-South and East-West train lines have been operational since 1987.
LTA said it was time to improve its performance.
"Due to obsolesce of components and parts as well as need for
improvements in performance, we have to do the upgrading," Land
Transport Authority group director (rail) Chua Chong Kheng said.
"We are going to take advantage of this upgrading exercise to further improve on the headways we currently have.
"The current headways are 120 seconds based on the current signalling
system and we are aiming to reduce that to 100 seconds with the new
signalling," Mr Chua said.
As part of the upgrading programme, LTA also wants to improve the
trains' operational headway, which is the time between two trains
arriving at a station.
Trains now run at intervals of 120 seconds at peak periods.
LTA's target is to bring this down to 100 seconds in order to cater to increasing passenger load.
"Train loadings are increasing as we saw the trend and so we will need
to take proactive steps and measures and this is one of the things, we
are looking ahead," Mr Chua said.
"(The) current system may be bearable, but certainly we don't want to
wait for things to happen before we start to do anything," he said.
So the upgrading process will involve replacing equipment on nearly 120
existing trains, along the trackside, at the stations and operations
control room.
Upgrading the signalling system on a line which is already operational is a complex process the LTA said.
So work on the North-South Line and East-West line will be carried out in stages.
Work on the North-South line will be completed in six years' time and the East-West line two years later.
LTA also assures that all safety precautions will be taken when the works are being done.
"Obviously we want to do this work without any disruptions to the operations," Mr Chua said.
"In this instance we will work within the existing railway and do our best not to affect the operational railway."
This means upgrading works can only take place after the trains have stopped running for the day.
LTA said more trains would also be ordered for the North-South and East West lines.
Meanwhile , the Circle Line from Marymount Station to Harbourfront is scheduled to open next year.
It will provide an alternative route for commuters to the city and will
reduce loading along the Toa Payoh to Novena sector by 10 to 15 per
cent.
-CNA/wk
New initiatives to increase rail capacity
Originally posted by youyuan:S$60b to be spent over next decade to double S'pore rail network
SINGAPORE: Singapore will spend S$60 billion over the next decade to double the rail network, Prime Minister Lee said at his National Day Rally speech on Sunday.
He said this will involve the Downtown Line, Thomson Line and Eastern Region Line.
Mr Lee said he understands the congestion problems commuters face, especially during morning peak periods.
He said the Circle Line has helped improve the situation, and more will be done, including running an extra train during peak hour on the North-East Line by next year.
Also, more trains (NEL) will be bought and systems upgraded (EWL & NSL) to cope with expected traffic growth.
He said the government is doing everything possible to improve things, but he hopes Singaporeans can understand that MRT trains will always be packed during peak traffic.
"(Such a situation) happens in all cities. Please be patient. (It's) not possible to guarantee that every passenger can get onto every first train, but the next train will just be a few minutes away," he said.
1 only?
LOL! May be.... An extra train....
Originally posted by youyuan:LTA to upgrade train signalling system
SINGAPORE: The Land Transport Authority (LTA) said the upgrading of the train signalling system will result in shorter waiting times for commuters and a 20 per cent improvement to its existing capacity.
It said the upgrading, which will start next year, applies to the North-South and East-West lines.
Plans to further enhance the rail network were first revealed by Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong last Sunday during his National Day Rally.
Among the plans announced were the Jurong East Modification project, which is targeted for completion in May 2011.
LTA said by 2012, the North-South/East-West line capacity is expected to increase by about 15 per cent and with the modification, commuters would be able to enjoy a shorter waiting time of between two and three minutes.
The current waiting time during peak periods is 2.5 to 4.5 minutes.
Singapore's rail network will be expanded and upgraded over the next 10 years to cater to the increased demand in commuter travel.
The current train signalling system on the North-South and East-West train lines have been operational since 1987.
LTA said it was time to improve its performance.
"Due to obsolesce of components and parts as well as need for improvements in performance, we have to do the upgrading," Land Transport Authority group director (rail) Chua Chong Kheng said.
"We are going to take advantage of this upgrading exercise to further improve on the headways we currently have.
"The current headways are 120 seconds based on the current signalling system and we are aiming to reduce that to 100 seconds with the new signalling," Mr Chua said.
As part of the upgrading programme, LTA also wants to improve the trains' operational headway, which is the time between two trains arriving at a station.
Trains now run at intervals of 120 seconds at peak periods.
LTA's target is to bring this down to 100 seconds in order to cater to increasing passenger load.
"Train loadings are increasing as we saw the trend and so we will need to take proactive steps and measures and this is one of the things, we are looking ahead," Mr Chua said.
"(The) current system may be bearable, but certainly we don't want to wait for things to happen before we start to do anything," he said.
So the upgrading process will involve replacing equipment on nearly 120 existing trains, along the trackside, at the stations and operations control room.
Upgrading the signalling system on a line which is already operational is a complex process the LTA said.
So work on the North-South Line and East-West line will be carried out in stages.
Work on the North-South line will be completed in six years' time and the East-West line two years later.
LTA also assures that all safety precautions will be taken when the works are being done.
"Obviously we want to do this work without any disruptions to the operations," Mr Chua said.
"In this instance we will work within the existing railway and do our best not to affect the operational railway."
This means upgrading works can only take place after the trains have stopped running for the day.
LTA said more trains would also be ordered for the North-South and East West lines.
Meanwhile , the Circle Line from Marymount Station to Harbourfront is scheduled to open next year.
It will provide an alternative route for commuters to the city and will reduce loading along the Toa Payoh to Novena sector by 10 to 15 per cent.
-CNA/wk
The ATP system can handle up to 36 or 37tph (train per hours, equates to one every 97-100 seconds). Trains now run at 30tph (2 min/train)
Replacing of train equipment? Sounds either upgrading the ATP to 37tph or changing to SelTrac to me.
Train commuters looking forward to better travelling experience
SINGAPORE : Commuters say they are looking forward to a better
travelling experience on trains following plans to expand and upgrade
the rail network.
However, some hope that the plans like the upgrading of the train signalling system can be rolled out earlier.
Overcrowding is one issue that the upgraded train signalling system, to be fully completed in eight years, is hoping to address.
More trains will be added, while commuters can look forward to saving
some 20 seconds of waiting during peak periods on the North-South and
East-West lines.
A commuter said: "Less traffic, less crowded trains, and I will be able to board the train on my first try."
Another said: "In six to eight years, I will be working, so I will be
probably be taking the transport, so it will be beneficial for me."
"I don't mind waiting six to eight years, for an improved train system," a third added.
However, others are hoping the upgraded system will be rolled out earlier.
"I think they should make it faster, because the issue now is quite
immediate because you can see during peak hours, a lot of people just
cannot get up on the train," one of them said.
"I just hope they will accommodate the growing population, which is now
five million, and well in eight years, the population will probably grow
further," another said.
The Land Transport Authority and public transport operators say they are
mindful of the increasing travel demand on the rail network. And they
are doing all they can to increase rail capacity to improve the overall
travel experience for commuters.
And some commuters say they too have a part to play. One of them said:
"Some of them (the passengers) just cannot be bothered to move in."
Another added: "Everyone just gets blocked at the entrance."
Experts say there is a limit to boosting capacity on train systems.
Associate Professor Lee Der Horng, Department of Civil Engineering,
National University of Singapore, said: "For the street traffic, we can
actually shorten the time between each vehicle to some very minimum
distance.
"But in the MRT environment, we cannot really do this because we will
have to consider the safety issue. Safety can become a constraint to the
overall system capacity. But we cannot compromise."
Similar upgrading projects like the Victoria Line in London will take
some nine years to complete. Even then the trains there will take 10
seconds longer to arrive compared to Singapore.
LTA said an additional train will also be added for the North East Line
(NEL) during peak hours next year. More trains will also be purchased to
boost capacity and reduce loading on the NEL.
The trains will be delivered in four to five year's time. LTA added that
it expects to progressively increase the peak capacity by some 50 per
cent for the NEL.
- CNA/al
Originally posted by youyuan:LTA to upgrade train signalling system
SINGAPORE: The Land Transport Authority (LTA) said the upgrading of the train signalling system will result in shorter waiting times for commuters and a 20 per cent improvement to its existing capacity.
It said the upgrading, which will start next year, applies to the North-South and East-West lines.
Plans to further enhance the rail network were first revealed by Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong last Sunday during his National Day Rally.
Among the plans announced were the Jurong East Modification project, which is targeted for completion in May 2011.
LTA said by 2012, the North-South/East-West line capacity is expected to increase by about 15 per cent and with the modification, commuters would be able to enjoy a shorter waiting time of between two and three minutes.
The current waiting time during peak periods is 2.5 to 4.5 minutes.
Singapore's rail network will be expanded and upgraded over the next 10 years to cater to the increased demand in commuter travel.
The current train signalling system on the North-South and East-West train lines have been operational since 1987.
LTA said it was time to improve its performance.
"Due to obsolesce of components and parts as well as need for improvements in performance, we have to do the upgrading," Land Transport Authority group director (rail) Chua Chong Kheng said.
"We are going to take advantage of this upgrading exercise to further improve on the headways we currently have.
"The current headways are 120 seconds based on the current signalling system and we are aiming to reduce that to 100 seconds with the new signalling," Mr Chua said.
As part of the upgrading programme, LTA also wants to improve the trains' operational headway, which is the time between two trains arriving at a station.
Trains now run at intervals of 120 seconds at peak periods.
LTA's target is to bring this down to 100 seconds in order to cater to increasing passenger load.
"Train loadings are increasing as we saw the trend and so we will need to take proactive steps and measures and this is one of the things, we are looking ahead," Mr Chua said.
"(The) current system may be bearable, but certainly we don't want to wait for things to happen before we start to do anything," he said.
So the upgrading process will involve replacing equipment on nearly 120 existing trains, along the trackside, at the stations and operations control room.
Upgrading the signalling system on a line which is already operational is a complex process the LTA said.
So work on the North-South Line and East-West line will be carried out in stages.
Work on the North-South line will be completed in six years' time and the East-West line two years later.
LTA also assures that all safety precautions will be taken when the works are being done.
"Obviously we want to do this work without any disruptions to the operations," Mr Chua said.
"In this instance we will work within the existing railway and do our best not to affect the operational railway."
This means upgrading works can only take place after the trains have stopped running for the day.
LTA said more trains would also be ordered for the North-South and East West lines.
Meanwhile , the Circle Line from Marymount Station to Harbourfront is scheduled to open next year.
It will provide an alternative route for commuters to the city and will reduce loading along the Toa Payoh to Novena sector by 10 to 15 per cent.
-CNA/wk
WTF. 20 seconds only? Why not bring down to say, 50 seconds?
Originally posted by joeyfjj:The ATP system can handle up to 36 or 37tph (train per hours, equates to one every 97-100 seconds). Trains now run at 30tph (2 min/train)
Replacing of train equipment? Sounds either upgrading the ATP to 37tph or changing to SelTrac to me.
Sorry to disappoint you but as of current, during peak of peak, train are running at 24tph. And theoretically, since our system has an overhead of 150s, the max we can go is 24tph.
So with the above data, we can say that "theoretically", we have already reached the theoretical maximum capacity of our system.
As for LTA claim of 120s, I don't know what figure this is and where it derives from.
Originally posted by Samuel Lee:WTF. 20 seconds only? Why not bring down to say, 50 seconds?
Not possible, 50 seconds is just enough for the train to come to a complete stop and accelerate out of a ATP block. What about dwell time and "slack time"?
On a side note, as far as safety and frequency are concerned, Japan is at this stage; (Do note that in the picture, the train behind is still moving)
Originally posted by jcqh:1 only?
1 extra service train...... Today zaobao say NEL got 25 trains with 22 of them are used in daily operations. So, it is like wth, why cant have 3 extra trains, before the arrival of new trains.
Regarding some sources that says SKD can have 15 more trains, I expect that LTA will have to buy 15 trains and not 12 or 13 trains for NEL because they usually buy in bulks and cannot be like ordering 1 train 2 train thingy (C151A cost LTA $369 million for 22 trains, if they just buy 1 or 2 train, they are likely to get less than $40 million --- which is = eating "North West Wind", do what business). If they actually buy 7 ~ 8 trains only, then it might not able to reach increasing the capacity by 50% without using the reserve / maintenance train.
Originally posted by E5:Sorry to disappoint you but as of current, during peak of peak, train are running at 24tph. And theoretically, since our system has an overhead of 150s, the max we can go is 24tph.
So with the above data, we can say that "theoretically", we have already reached the theoretical maximum capacity of our system.
As for LTA claim of 120s, I don't know what figure this is and where it derives from.
Not possible, 50 seconds is just enough for the train to come to a complete stop and accelerate out of a ATP block. What about dwell time and "slack time"?
On a side note, as far as safety and frequency are concerned, Japan is at this stage; (Do note that in the picture, the train behind is still moving)
I see, I thought that it is like upgrading a computer with "512MB RAM to say 1GB RAM" which is like whats the point and "why not change the motherboard etc such that the RAM can go more than 4GB".
Well, I think if I am not wrong, the LTA claim of 120s is saying near 120s and not = to 120s. And may I know how did you find out that our system is actually has an overhead of 150s?
On a side note, based on your attached image, does that mean that Japan train has a maximum frequency of 1 minute or even 30 seconds per train?
Originally posted by jcqh:1 only?
I guess is an C651.