[Trains] Did you know...?
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Originally posted by c751bLoVuR:
Anyone notice why the "From Dhoby Ghaut to Tai Seng open on 17 April" still there on JUR!!! :( (behind the lift)
343/344 got Stage 3 opening in mid-2009 stix on overhead ad
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Based on disappear's post on Questions on MRT / LRT
Originally posted by disappear:
as i hav not been in sgforums for a long time, i looked thru the thread and found your questions u posted few months back. I will reply because this is to my interest and I actually did ask a similar qn in 2009(in this thread).I would think the real purpose of building the middle track in AMK was to make provisions for a future extension, just like the ones at tanah merah and jurong east. for evidence, if u take a look at the 1996 LTA White Paper(still downloadable from LTA website), at that point of time, they had a planned MRT line called Kallang Line in mind, and it happened to start from Ang Mo Kio, but the plan never materialised.
Therefore there is v gd reason to deduce that the real purpose of middle tracks is to provide a line extension, not for facilitating the return to depot. Because just like what u had reasoned, if the real purpose is for the latter, why doesnt Hougang/Buangkok(or any of the NEL stations) hav a middle track then. And like u said, why does Paya Lebar, which is not near the depot, hav 3 tracks too, and not at Tai Seng/Bartley instead?
Also, trains can also simply terminate at Bishan and return to the depot and bishan doesnt need to have a middle track. And like i had reasoned, to faciliate returning to depot, what is needed are the additional tracks in between the stations, and not at the stations themselves.
Perhaps its just a coincidence that all the old stations with 3 tracks happen to be near depots, just like it is a coincidence that their old station numbering happen to be W9, N9 and E9!!! (9th station from the Raffles or City hall interchanges)
So, in the case of Paya Lebar, after learning that the middle track leads to a dead end instead of connecting to Dakota bound tracks, it is all the more likely that the middle track is a provision for a future line extension. Even though u mentioned that there is currently no mention of a branch line in current plans, doesnt mean that they wont consider it in future, just like the Marina Bay extension of the CCL. at first they called it off too.
If u look again carefully at the planned rail map in the 1996 white paper, MRT/LRT network for year x, u will find a planned LRT line that largely resembles what is now the CCL. In that plan, u can see that after Paya Lebar, the line continues on to link directly to Marine Parade, instead of travelling towards Dakota. So it is really not far-fetched to speculate that the middle track at Paya Lebar is a provision for a possible future line extension to the ERL(Marine Parade or somewhere near), not for depot purposes, but for actual passenger service!
Well at least this is what i have deduced. because i simply cannot think of any other reason why there is a 3rd track there. definitely the real reason cannot be just to hav a spare track there, otherwise why didnt they connect the other end to the dakota bound tracks so that spare trains can go toward dhoby ghaut too instead of just marymount?
But obviously at present, it is just as well that they put the middle track to good use like what they are doing at AMK and Paya Lebar. for now, they can function as spare tracks. Who knows in the distant future they may reconsider something like the Kallang Line again.
we can deduce some interesting facts.
Did you know that ... 8, 9 and 10 are magical words in Singapore MRT / LRT?
1: 9 (10) stations after Raffles Place is Jurong East Interchange, which has a middle track? (10 is after considering Dover)
2: 8 stations after Jurong East Interchange is Outram Park (Inclusive of Dover), has a middle track slidings
3: 9 stations after Jurong East Interchange is also the end of the Tuas West Extension (EW33), which has a overrun sector that leds to depot directly (At least what was planned)
4: 9 stations after City Hall are Ang Mo Kio and Tanah Merah Interchange respectively, which has provisions for Kallang Line and Changi Airport Branch Line
5: 9 stations after Dhoby Ghaut Interchange in CCL is Paya Lebar Interchange, which has a middle track
6: 9 stations after Punggol Interchange is Farrer Park, which has a middle track slidings as well
7: 9 stations after Jurong East Interchange can be also Woodlands, if one consider the proposed NS6 Sungei Kadut, which has middle track slidings.
8: 9 stations after Choa Chu Kang Interchange, which is the start / end of the Woodlands Extension, Yishun, has middle track slidings as well. (If you consider future proposed NS6 and NS12 as well)
9: 9 stations after Marymount is Stadium, which has a middle track slidings as well
10: (8) 9 stations after Chinatown (DT19) in Downtown Line is DT27 / DT28 has a middle track platform, just like Paya Lebar with the notable exception of having 2 points to connect, instead of 1 point like Paya Lebar. The reason why it is 8 / 9 and currently it is named as DT27 is because there is a option to build a "DT21a" station, which if they choose not to built, it will be DT27 and if they choose to build DT21a, then it would be DT28 as the entire naming scheme has move forward by 1. BTW, DT4 is skipped and reserved. Ironically, based on Skycrappers' analysis, DT21a is situated between Farrer Park and Lavender, which is a possible station for the Kallang Line as well.
11: If I am not wrong, 9 stations after Choa Chu Kang LRT is Bangkit, has a special crossover (Tandem?) that is not seen on any other Bukit Panjang LRT stations except Choa Chu Kang.
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Originally posted by c751bLoVuR:
"From Dhoby Ghaut to Tai Seng will commence revenue service on 17 April 2010"
Finally removed!
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013/014 still has "CCL Stage 3 opening" mini stickers on its toute map
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Did you know that there are 2 announcers for NSL,EWL and CCL? One which name is Chan Hui Yuh and the other named Wiggie?
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Originally posted by wenjie639:
Did you know that there are 2 announcers for NSL,EWL and CCL? One which name is Chan Hui Yuh and the other named Wiggie?
I post before but no body believe. The i tell Willis then he tell you if i am not wrong. -
Originally posted by sgbuses:
The picture who? PM Lee? (Blue Shirts)
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Originally posted by c751bLoVuR:
The picture who? PM Lee? (Blue Shirts)
Yes, PM Lee now works for KTM.
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Originally posted by NickLim™:
Yes, PM Lee now works for KTM.
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28/05/2010:
Happy 1st anniversary birthday to SMRT circle line (stage 3)!~
(2009 - 2010).
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011/012 anoucement from eunos to paya lebar,i was in 3012 anoucement only said:next station paya lebar interchange,the anoucement did not said'passengers who are contiuing thir journey on the circle line, please alight at the next station'.
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047/048 engine sounds weird when departing
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Originally posted by Yongjunzer:
011/012 anoucement from eunos to paya lebar,i was in 3012 anoucement only said:next station paya lebar interchange,the anoucement did not said'passengers who are contiuing thir journey on the circle line, please alight at the next station'.
The new Paya Lebar Interchange or old announcement? It latest one??
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Originally posted by bus555:
047/048 engine sounds weird when departing
Off course la.
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Originally posted by Kawac151:
Off course la.
Problematic Thread have already.
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Originally posted by sgbuses:
Get the Malaysian PM to work of it la
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Something interesting which i found out only today:
The 1st 4 refurbs 005/006, 083/084, 001/002 and 035/036 are not eligible for side panel adverts because they use a different side panel as compared to the other 62 C151s.
In other words, 001/002 and 083/084 cannot get full interior/ full train ads.
Evidence:
1st refurb - 005/006: http://www.sgwiki.com/wiki/Image:005-006_int.jpg
4th refurb - 035/036: http://www.sgwiki.com/wiki/Image:035-036_int.jpg5th refurb - 021/022: http://www.sgwiki.com/wiki/Image:021-022_int.jpg
6th refurb - 003/004: http://www.sgwiki.com/wiki/Image:003-004_int.jpg -
001/002 and 7043/7044 are not updated with the new Paya Lebar and Dhoby Ghaut announcements respectively.
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021/022 can full int ad before.. Its 001/002 cant get ad
I really want to suggest this
001/002, 083/084
(Adless -> ROA)
067/068, 069/070
(ROA -> None) Can get all types of adverts -
Did you know.. 005/006 was the train for C151 refurbishment prototype? Found out that it wasnt a money train being made for the prototype. it had a total of 6 totally different designs in every carriage. i have already uploaded 3 in my fb acc. too bad SMRT decided to rip off & standardized the design of this train, or else this train would be a 'star' now.
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Originally posted by SBS Transit and SMRT:
... 7043/7044 are not ...
Huh?
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Originally posted by c751bLoVuR:
The picture who? PM Lee? (Blue Shirts)
****** la! It is obviously some KTM worker. This is the reason why you should be condemned.
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Originally posted by NickLim™:
Huh?
He meant the NEL 710043, 720043, 730043, 730044, 720044, 710044.
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Originally posted by SMB92U:
Did you know.. 005/006 was the train for C151 refurbishment prototype? Found out that it wasnt a money train being made for the prototype. it had a total of 6 totally different designs in every carriage. i have already uploaded 3 in my fb acc. too bad SMRT decided to rip off & standardized the design of this train, or else this train would be a 'star' now.
what is your f/b account. can pm me. thanks.
