[Speculation] Western Region Line
-
** Jurong Port station has been removed as it has a 90 degree turn to Tebans
** Tiong Bahru station future may branch out towards Marina Bay.
** Depot may be outside Nanyang along Jalan Bahar Road.
The Overall WRL
The Map -
it seems very wierd that all the purposed western region line has bypassed NE2 which could be used as a future interchange with the NEL and also 1 of the stations thats very close to the CBD area?
morever, it could be used to alleviate the load on the EWL from jurong east to CBD area as from one can see, theres no direct path from the beyond jurong area , e.g pioneer, boon lay etc direct to CBD area even with the CCL or DTL operational, so for those people living there, it;s like going 1 big circle just to reach CBD area, so they would rather just stick with the EWL till it gets crammed again.
also to note that in the space between harbour front , marina bay , tanjong pagar, theres a space there that might be fesabile for a MRT station beside NE2
for a start. take a good look at the ERL, it is almost runs in parallel with the eastern side of the EWL, so for the WRL, it should be like a mirror of the ERL, except that theres only 1 question, where will it terminate to??, Marina pier? or some station before that?? but a highly likely fixed point for a WRL should it exist would be NE2 which is still missing and not listed in the LTA official map.
-
Originally posted by Annilator47:
it seems very wierd that all the purposed western region line has bypassed NE2 which could be used as a future interchange with the NEL and also 1 of the stations thats very close to the CBD area?
morever, it could be used to alleviate the load on the EWL from jurong east to CBD area as from one can see, theres no direct path from the beyond jurong area , e.g pioneer, boon lay etc direct to CBD area even with the CCL or DTL operational, so for those people living there, it;s like going 1 big circle just to reach CBD area, so they would rather just stick with the EWL till it gets crammed again.
also to note that in the space between harbour front , marina bay , tanjong pagar, theres a space there that might be fesabile for a MRT station beside NE2
for a start. take a good look at the ERL, it is almost runs in parallel with the eastern side of the EWL, so for the WRL, it should be like a mirror of the ERL, except that theres only 1 question, where will it terminate to??, Marina pier? or some station before that?? but a highly likely fixed point for a WRL should it exist would be NE2 which is still missing and not listed in the LTA official map.
As i said in the previous post, Tiong Bahru station may be branched out thru the CBD..But unlikely to NE2...
-
Originally posted by Annilator47:
it seems very wierd that all the purposed western region line has bypassed NE2 which could be used as a future interchange with the NEL and also 1 of the stations thats very close to the CBD area?
morever, it could be used to alleviate the load on the EWL from jurong east to CBD area as from one can see, theres no direct path from the beyond jurong area , e.g pioneer, boon lay etc direct to CBD area even with the CCL or DTL operational, so for those people living there, it;s like going 1 big circle just to reach CBD area, so they would rather just stick with the EWL till it gets crammed again.
also to note that in the space between harbour front , marina bay , tanjong pagar, theres a space there that might be fesabile for a MRT station beside NE2
for a start. take a good look at the ERL, it is almost runs in parallel with the eastern side of the EWL, so for the WRL, it should be like a mirror of the ERL, except that theres only 1 question, where will it terminate to??, Marina pier? or some station before that?? but a highly likely fixed point for a WRL should it exist would be NE2 which is still missing and not listed in the LTA official map.
Read again on http://www.sgforums.com/forums/2080/topics/410354?page=3
Ok, extend. [Eh, but 60 trains enough ma? Forget it. Add a new depot in Tuas South? BTW, why dont they build a "MTD" {Multi-storey Car Park, and hence, Multi-storey Train Depot, probably underground version.}]
-> From Haw Par Villa, it goes to:
Alexandra / Depot Road Industrial area (near 90 degree left curve, u think they allow, personally, I doubt this sector will ever built), Telok Blangah Housing Estate - Radin Mas - Bukit Prumei Road, and probably -> Curve back to meet Keppel MRT station [NE2] Ok, so this sounds like "CCL Western version, sort of Old Airport Road areas on CCL Stage 2, parallels to "ERL", which is the CCL 5 and EWL Tiong Bharu - Buona Vista / Commonwealth sections".My take is, if there a line along Bukit Merah estate in between of EWL Redhill - Buona Vista sector and CCL Stage 5, then it will have to interchange with Kent Ridge instead of Haw Par Villa. These are my reasons:
1: To facilitate people from the West / South-West to get to NUH / NUS quickly. I think more people will go to NUH / NUS rather than Haw Par Villa (Except on festive seasons.)
2: Last time I saw Haw Par Villa was like.... I think there is a lack of space for any possible interchange, not even a CCL version of Newton. (Newton will be interchange for DTL, but that was not planned when they build the NSL in the late 80s.)
3: From Kent Ridge, the line can go straight towards Alexandra / Depot Road and heads to Bukit Merah Estate, but for Haw Par Villa, it would requires a sharp left turn.
However, even if the possible benefits for Kent Ridge to become Interchange, these are some of the difficulties involved when constructing it:
1: Kent Ridge is a "big station", but its surroundings is expressway and NUH.
2: Both Kent Ridge and Haw Par Villa, to proceed towards Bukit Merah, it is likely to involve a hilly terrain.
3: From West Coast / Clementi West St X estates area and head towards Kent Ridge, it will form a "-\-" shape, somehow.
It would like this (Forget about a branching out \ as it is computer's limitation without actually drawing it out) :
West Coast
-------------------
\
\-------------------- Bukit Merah
-
actually i really favour a line at NE2 keppel, running parallel with CCL 5 and EWL and interchange with one north ( CCL MPS itself is not a very big station too but also interchange with DTL) and from there bend outward gently to the parts of singapore west below jurong east, like the benoi sector and beyond.
if there was to be a 4th line for the eastern half or western half, it would be the remmant holland line for the west and the seletar line on the east.
-
Originally posted by Annilator47:
actually i really favour a line at NE2 keppel, running parallel with CCL 5 and EWL and interchange with one north ( CCL MPS itself is not a very big station too but also interchange with DTL) and from there bend outward gently to the parts of singapore west below jurong east, like the benoi sector and beyond.
if there was to be a 4th line for the eastern half or western half, it would be the remmant holland line for the west and the seletar line on the east.
If there is a 4th line in the eastern half, i tell you, its gonna be S-curve, because...
Downtown Line stage 3 serves the northern borderline of the East Side
East West Line runs through the center of the Bedok
Eastern Region Line serves the southern borderline of the East Side.
Maximum lines in each region :
EAST : 3
WEST : 4
NORTHEAST : 2
NORTH : 2
NORTHWEST (CCK/BBT) : 2
NORTHWESTWEST (LCK) : As many as u want, Lim Chu Kang is big, from Kranji to Boon Lay!
WEST : 3
TOTAL : 16 (excluding northwestwest)
-
Originally posted by Dragonaxe:
If there is a 4th line in the eastern half, i tell you, its gonna be S-curve, because...
Downtown Line stage 3 serves the northern borderline of the East Side
East West Line runs through the center of the Bedok
Eastern Region Line serves the southern borderline of the East Side.
Maximum lines in each region :
EAST : 3
WEST : 4
NORTHEAST : 2
NORTH : 2
NORTHWEST (CCK/BBT) : 2
NORTHWESTWEST (LCK) : As many as u want, Lim Chu Kang is big, from Kranji to Boon Lay!
WEST : 3
TOTAL : 16 (excluding northwestwest)
are you considering the seletar line as northeast instead of east?
another thing i am curious : would they merge 2 partial lines into one e.g holland line with seletar? where the holland portion would serve the southen part of western singapore and the seletar would serve the norheastern part of the island.
right now from what i see the southern central part of singapore would have about 6 lines in 2020 which NSL, EWL, CCL, DTL, ERL and TSL., i am unsure however if they would add more to this area since it's anybodys guess but i have a strong feeling that NE2 was the best hint they (LTA) left behind for future use, but not for NEL only but for another line.
-
My 6th Re-edited version for WRL.
Stage 1
WR1--Lim Chu Kang Terminal
WR2--Farmway
WR3--Cemetery
WR4--Nanyang
WR5--Westwood
WR6--Pioneer Interchnage
WR7--Jurong Park
WR8--Corporation
WR9--Jurong Lake
WR10--Chinese Garden Interchange
WR11--Toh Guan
Stage 2
WR12--Jurong Town Hall(shell station,will not operate during service.)
WR13--Teban Gardens
WR14--West Coast
WR15--Pandan
WR16--University
WR17--Kent Ridge Interchange
WR18--Queensway
WR19--Alexandra
Stage 3
WR20--Mount Faber
WR21--Telok Blangah Interchange
WR22--Keppel Terminal
Hope rolling stock is from Alstom,hope line colour is Blue on system map.Est.25 trains.
Depot Location--Forested Area near WR2 Cemetery.
Branchline services--One
Stage 4
WR23--Chinese Garden Interchange
WR24--Yuhua
WR25--Bukit Batok West
WR26--Hillview Interchange
Train Livery--As Long as they don't paint pink.
Planned sidings--I don't care
Special Services--Up to LTA/Operator
Others:They'd better screw the CSOs for this one
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
A comment:I think OpenBVE editors are gonna make a route based on this Since we have so many ideas.But i sincerely tell you LTA isn't going to make a WRL. -
Originally posted by Annilator47:
are you considering the seletar line as northeast instead of east?
another thing i am curious : would they merge 2 partial lines into one e.g holland line with seletar? where the holland portion would serve the southen part of western singapore and the seletar would serve the norheastern part of the island.
right now from what i see the southern central part of singapore would have about 6 lines in 2020 which NSL, EWL, CCL, DTL, ERL and TSL., i am unsure however if they would add more to this area since it's anybodys guess but i have a strong feeling that NE2 was the best hint they (LTA) left behind for future use, but not for NEL only but for another line.
Its either, The Central catchment area is going Brazil~ or is going to be there FOREVER
-
My final version of Western Region Line with photos!
WL01: Nanyang
WL02: Westwood
WL03: Jalan Bahar
WL04: Hong Kah
WL05: Lakeside
WL06: Yuan Ching
WL07: Teban Gardens
WL08: West Coast Park
WL09: Haw Par Villa
WL10: Bukit Merah
WL11: Tiong Bahru
WL12: River Valley
WL13: Orchard
** Jurong Port station has been removed as it has a 90 degree turn to Tebans
** Tiong Bahru station future may branch out towards Marina Bay.
** Depot may be outside Nanyang along Jalan Bahar Road.
The Overall WRL
The Map
The Stations as follows
WL 01 Nanyang
WL02 Westwood
**notice the pink spots on the top left hand corner? That may be the depot
WL03 Jalan Bahar
WL04 Hong Kah
WL05/EW26 Lakeside
WL06 Yuan Ching
WL07 Teban Gardens
WL08 West Coast Park
CC25/WL09 Haw Par Villa
WL10 Bukit Merah
EW17/WL11 Tiong Bahru
**maybe branch out towards Marina Bay
WL12 River Valley
NS22/WL13 Orchardthanks
-
Originally posted by Dragonaxe:
If there is a 4th line in the eastern half, i tell you, its gonna be S-curve, because...
Downtown Line stage 3 serves the northern borderline of the East Side
East West Line runs through the center of the Bedok
Eastern Region Line serves the southern borderline of the East Side.
Maximum lines in each region :
EAST : 3
WEST : 4
NORTHEAST : 2
NORTH : 2
NORTHWEST (CCK/BBT) : 2
NORTHWESTWEST (LCK) : As many as u want, Lim Chu Kang is big, from Kranji to Boon Lay!
WEST : 3
TOTAL : 16 (excluding northwestwest)
You forget that there is no demand in NWW + large part, if not most of it --- is live firing area. You expect a train to kena shot?
-
Sorry for the late posting, heres my finding on future plans based on 2001 concept plan:
Concept idea / direction:
Concept plan 2001:
-
My Final Re-edited version for WRL.
Stage 1
WR1--Lim Chu Kang Terminal
WR2--Farmway
WR3--Cemetery
WR4--Nanyang
WR5--Westwood
WR6--Pioneer Interchnage
WR7--Jurong Park
WR8--Corporation
WR9--Jurong Lake
WR10--Chinese Garden Interchange
WR11--Toh Guan
Stage 2
WR12--Jurong Town Hall(shell station,will not operate during service.)
WR13--Teban Gardens
WR14--West Coast
WR15--Pandan
WR16--University
WR17--Kent Ridge Interchange
WR18--Queensway
WR19--Alexandra
Stage 3
WR20--Mount Faber
WR21--Kampung Bahru
WR22--Keppel Terminal
Hope rolling stock is from Alstom,hope line colour is Blue on system map.Est.25 trains.
Depot Location--Forested Area near WR2 Cemetery.
Branchline services--One
Stage 4
WR23--Chinese Garden Interchange
WR24--Yuhua
WR25--Bukit Batok West
WR26--Hillview Interchange
Train Livery--As Long as they don't paint pink.
Planned sidings--I don't care
Special Services--Up to LTA/Operator
Others:They'd better screw the CSOs for this one
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -
Note: Anyone who like to suggest MRT lines in the east or north, can they please cme to the post 'MRT Lines & Station Suggestions' that i had created before?
-
My version of WRL:
WR1 NTU
WR2 Geh Poh
WR3 Lakeside
WR4 Coporation
WR5 Taman
WR6 Science Park
WR7 Teban
WR8 Pandan
WR9 Ayer Rajah
WR10 West Coast
WR11 (stn near Kent Ridge Bus Term. Please help me decide a name)
WR12 Haw Par Villa
WR13 Pepys Road
WR14 Alexandra
WR15 Depot Road
WR16 Henderson
WR17 Tiong Bahru
WR18 Zion
WR19 Grange
WR20 Tanglin
WR21 Nassim
WR22 Orchard
WR23 Bideford
WR24 Kramat
WR25 Selegie
WR26 Bencoolen
WR27 Waterloo
WR28 Beach Road
WR29 Promenade
WR30 Floating Platform
WR31 Fullerton
WR32 Raffles Place
WR33 Robinson
WR34 Anson
WR35 Cantonment
WR36 Outram Park
Outram Park stn looks big enough to have 3-line connection. Promenade also, or the other half of CCL platform will never be used again. :(
EWL = 4
NSL = 2
NEL = 1
CCL = Unverifyed as WR33 - 35 could hook up with CCL 2027 extension to HBF from Marina Bay.
DTL = 2
TSL / ERL = Unverifyed. TSL answer verifyed by next yr while ERL at 2013.
-
Originally posted by langer68:
My version of WRL:
WR1 NTU
WR2 Geh Poh
WR3 Lakeside
WR4 Coporation
WR5 Taman
WR6 Science Park
WR7 Teban
WR8 Pandan
WR9 Ayer Rajah
WR10 West Coast
WR11 (stn near Kent Ridge Bus Term. Please help me decide a name)
WR12 Haw Par Villa
WR13 Pepys Road
WR14 Alexandra
WR15 Depot Road
WR16 Henderson
WR17 Tiong Bahru
WR18 Zion
WR19 Grange
WR20 Tanglin
WR21 Nassim
WR22 Orchard
WR23 Bideford
WR24 Kramat
WR25 Selegie
WR26 Bencoolen
WR27 Waterloo
WR28 Beach Road
WR29 Promenade
WR30 Floating Platform
WR31 Fullerton
WR32 Raffles Place
WR33 Robinson
WR34 Anson
WR35 Cantonment
WR36 Outram Park
Outram Park stn looks big enough to have 3-line connection. Promenade also, or the other half of CCL platform will never be used again. :(
EWL = 4
NSL = 2
NEL = 1
CCL = Unverifyed as WR33 - 35 could hook up with CCL 2027 extension to HBF from Marina Bay.
DTL = 2
TSL / ERL = Unverifyed. TSL answer verifyed by next yr while ERL at 2013.
I think WR11 should be named University.
-
Originally posted by c751bLoVuR:
I think WR11 should be named University.
Why not a long linkway that interchanges with Kent Ridge. Integrated Bus Terminal, MRT somemore!!
-
Originally posted by langer68:
My version of WRL:
WR1 NTU
WR2 Geh Poh
WR3 Lakeside
WR4 Coporation
WR5 Taman
WR6 Science Park
WR7 Teban
WR8 Pandan
WR9 Ayer Rajah
WR10 West Coast
WR11 (stn near Kent Ridge Bus Term. Please help me decide a name)
WR12 Haw Par Villa
WR13 Pepys Road
WR14 Alexandra
WR15 Depot Road
WR16 Henderson
WR17 Tiong Bahru
WR18 Zion
WR19 Grange
WR20 Tanglin
WR21 Nassim
WR22 Orchard
WR23 Bideford
WR24 Kramat
WR25 Selegie
WR26 Bencoolen
WR27 Waterloo
WR28 Beach Road
WR29 Promenade
WR30 Floating Platform
WR31 Fullerton
WR32 Raffles Place
WR33 Robinson
WR34 Anson
WR35 Cantonment
WR36 Outram Park
Outram Park stn looks big enough to have 3-line connection. Promenade also, or the other half of CCL platform will never be used again. :(
EWL = 4
NSL = 2
NEL = 1
CCL = Unverifyed as WR33 - 35 could hook up with CCL 2027 extension to HBF from Marina Bay.
DTL = 2
TSL / ERL = Unverifyed. TSL answer verifyed by next yr while ERL at 2013.
WR2 is Gek Poh
-
New proposal:
WR1 - Nanyang
WR2 - Bahar
WR3 - Jurong West
WR4 - Corporation
WR5 - Taman Jurong
WR6 - Chia Ping
WR7 - Jurong Port
WR8 - Teban
WR9 - West Coast
WR10 - Mas Puteh
WR11 - Folkestone
WR12 - Rochester
WR13 - one-north
WR14 - Mei Chin
WR15 - Alexandra
WR16 - Bukit Merah
WR17 - Kim Tian
WR18 - Kampong Bahru
WR19 - Cantonment
WR20 - Keppel
WR21 - Bayfront
WR22 - Marina Gardens
WR23 - Marina Pier -
why must it pass into lim chu kang? there's 975 there wat.
-
Originally posted by dan474:
why must it pass into lim chu kang? there's 975 there wat.
Coz they find it a big area without rail support is weird.
On top of 975, there is 172 in LCK as well. But I dont agree there should be a rail line in LCK, so as to make the area there more "natural" / "utopia" (Escape from urban city / concrete jungles) and there will never has such demands for it.
-
Originally posted by i_luv_erky:
WR2 is Gek Poh
lol. Kaypoh?
-
Originally posted by c751bLoVuR:
lol. Kaypoh?
Not Kaypoh. it's Gek Poh.
see the previous pages, those live in Jurong West will know Gek Poh, those live elsewhere will think is kaypoh -
LATEST: LTA has just replied to western region line feedback. He told me the extensions coming up in Tuas, DTL...JEMP....
And they also thank me and the interest in the future MRT alignments and will look into my feedback and see if it is possible to take my suggestions...
hmm.. lets wait and see.. WRL coming SOON -
Sure or not? Let's get EWL Extension and all JEMP complete then plan for next WRL.