what martial arts have you learnt?
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Do they have tournaments in singapore in grappling??
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Well...SajNT is suppose to be answering this...lol...Oh well, I can just give a short explanation, however, they are quite commonly known in chinese martial arts, so...Originally posted by Shigemichi Take:Both plse
Chen
You've heard of "Tai Chi", right? Well, it's actually an internal chinese martial art, with the longer name of Taijiquan - tai chi fist, if you will.
There are a few different "styles" within this art, and Chen just happens to be one of them. I am not going to go into a history debate here with anyone, because there are some differing opinions about what came first, who changed what, etc., but the general consensus is that Chen was the original style from which others later came.
Zhan Zhuang
This is usually translated as "standing on stake" or "stake-standing", and a host of others...
In general, this refers to a set of standards & pointers to this type of practice. Many different styles use this as a training aid.
It's most commonly seen as "tree-hugging" stance. In its very basic practice, it's a beginning static qigong, useful for aligning the posture, building root, internal strength, etc. It provides such benefits at the basic stage, however some styles will practice it much longer, and with added things or a different emphasis/awareness, to further develop different things.
I know that explanation sucks lol but it's difficult to describe, but I think you've probably seen it before (but maybe didn't know that's what it was). -
Yah...I am not much of a grappler myself...But I can tell ya that the "de Silva" name is know in the states as well...Originally posted by ndmmxiaomayi:I will recommend number 2. Darren de Silva is well known in Singapore and many people sing praises of him. -
Lol. Yah...Originally posted by ndmmxiaomayi:Tiring art to master.
And that explains the name Hop Gar. Most arts from Southern China ends with Gar. Like Mok Gar, Hung Gar, Lau Gar.
If the art went through south china, then the name makes sense...but then again, it's most visibly apparent flavor are big circles and long punches n kicks....I would have thought the south would've had a more visibly apparent influence, if you know what I mean.
But then again, I never saw the *whole* system, so it could be later that the soutern influence shows up...Dunno... -
Uh, I wasn't learning them all at the same time! lol...and as I mentioned, I did not "master" all those styles. I learned some from each style, more from some and less from others.Originally posted by ndmmxiaomayi:How you divide your time to learn so many martial arts?
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It probably went through South China, not so sure though. As this art has got different versions of histories, we can't be sure.Originally posted by Northwind:Lol. Yah...
If the art went through south china, then the name makes sense...but then again, it's most visibly apparent flavor are big circles and long punches n kicks....I would have thought the south would've had a more visibly apparent influence, if you know what I mean.
But then again, I never saw the *whole* system, so it could be later that the soutern influence shows up...Dunno... -
Although translated as "standing on stake" or "stake-standing", we don't stand on stakes while training.Originally posted by Northwind:Zhan Zhuang
This is usually translated as "standing on stake" or "stake-standing", and a host of others...
In general, this refers to a set of standards & pointers to this type of practice. Many different styles use this as a training aid.
It's most commonly seen as "tree-hugging" stance. In its very basic practice, it's a beginning static qigong, useful for aligning the posture, building root, internal strength, etc. It provides such benefits at the basic stage, however some styles will practice it much longer, and with added things or a different emphasis/awareness, to further develop different things.
For me, it is commonly translated to stance or in our class, it is called Pakistan. It's actually a joke. The master will say "Where's your stance, where's your stance?" Then someone will call out Pakistan. Lame, but it reminds us. -
I didn't mean all at one time.Originally posted by Northwind:Uh, I wasn't learning them all at the same time! lol...and as I mentioned, I did not "master" all those styles. I learned some from each style, more from some and less from others. -
For us, we stand with stakes, ready for the vampires...lolOriginally posted by ndmmxiaomayi:Although translated as "standing on stake" or "stake-standing", we don't stand on stakes while training.
For me, it is commonly translated to stance or in our class, it is called Pakistan. It's actually a joke. The master will say "Where's your stance, where's your stance?" Then someone will call out Pakistan. Lame, but it reminds us. -
Okay, so then I guess you are seriously curious then...Here goes (and remember, you asked for itOriginally posted by ndmmxiaomayi:I didn't mean all at one time. )
After learning some TKD from age 9 - 11, and going to the library and doing research on martial arts in general, I realized that chinese martial arts was what I mainly wanted. So I searched.
I could only find mainly "Tai Chi" listings. So finally I went to a teacher who taught Chinese stuff (listing was for some different Tai Chi styles and a bunch of different qigongs, but I didn't know much about it then).
I began studying different qigongs there for awhile.
I then found out he also taught Northern Shaolin (hereafter referred to as BSL [BeiShaolin, Bak Siu Lam, etc.]), so I began learning BSL at just before my 12th birthday.
From about age 12 - 18, it was mainly BSL & Qigong, and a little bit of basic yangjia taijiquan, but my teacher would often take us to train with teachers of different styles from time to time, to get exposure of different styles. Here I was introduced to ChoyLayFut, Southern Preying Mantis, Taijiquan (yang & chen), Hop Gar, ChangQuan, YingJowPai (Eagle Claw), Shorinji Karate, various grappling, and contemporary modern wushu.
Immediately after finishing High School (this is all happening in the USA - I think it is called secondary school here, but not sure of all the different education levels here - quite confusing for me to understand actually), I was debating on whether or not to move to California and go to a Traditional Chinese Medicine School, as I had studied some basics during my BSL & qigong training. So for about six months (age is about 18.5 - 19.25 yrs.) I did not train my BSL, as my teacher told me to take time off for thinking on my TCM decision. During this time I found Capoeira, and went regularly to training, and also actually some 7-Star northern preying mantis. I was not considering this to be serious training, but just for enjoyment and exposure.
After this time (and decided not to go to TCM), I moved into my BSL teacher's home/school and attended junior college. He was working with his FT-job, publishing a book, and doing some seminars ard the country so was quite busy. I was then left, along with some other senior students, to lead the classes. During this time, believe it or not, I actually also went back to TKD (so many people in class were insulting it, so I wanted to go back in and see for myself, now that I was older & a bit more experienced).
After a while, I decided to go to University, which was about an hour and a half away, so I moved there and went to school. My BSL teacher allowed me to teach "Introduction to Chinese Martial Arts" (JiBenGong), our BSL style up to a certain point, some of the basic qigongs, and basic-level introductory yang jia taijiquan.
I had a car though, so was able to travel between these two cities when I wanted, which was usually about twice per week.
So in Athens - the city where my University was - I practiced what I was taught, I began teaching, and was taking University classes too of course
. In Atlanta - my hometown - I continued my BSL learning, I began learning Hung Gar, and more Yangjia Taijiquan. I revisited Hop Gar and trained with them on/off for while, coming once in a while, but practicing what I had learned at home. I revisited the Southern Preying Mantis style & qigong, and continued learning that for a while (maybe about a year max).
After awhile, I stopped Hung Gar & played with Chenjia Taijiquan (just a short while of exposure), while learning Gao Baguazhang and HsingYi Quan.
Throughout the years, my student-base grew, and I moved back to Atlanta, but kept driving back to Athens to teach (I later taught in both cities).
Here in Singapore, I have had a bit of exposure, but I've not been able to dedicate myself to a school yet.
So, anyway there it is - a lot of exposure, with real learning in a few styles, but most learning was in BSL & qigong. -
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Which martial art particularly? I know a few arts stand on stakes, but most don't.Originally posted by Northwind:For us, we stand with stakes, ready for the vampires...lol
Vampires? LOL -
Ninjitsu.
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Yellow
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Huh?Originally posted by ndmmxiaomayi:Which martial art particularly? I know a few arts stand on stakes, but most don't.
Vampires? LOL
I never said I stand on any stakes - was making a joke off the word "stakes", because the common english translation is the standing on stakes as well as others...
Just makin jokes with that post -
All the martial arts i learnt..practically only taught me how to take the beating... sigh.. its pretty useless to me.
I was 3rd Dan Black Belt WTF TKD , 2 yrs Win Chun.. n i got my ass bashed up.. bleeding from my mouth , ears n nose by 18 ppl. But thank god to training.. i didnt fall like a sack of potatoes.. instead..became a punching bag for the masses. I will opt for machetes , sticks, glass bottles.. no honour in street fighting..
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I don't really understand how the teacher of your TKD class would advance you so far if you didn't do well in sparring? And I guess it depends on who/where you learned from - most TKD is taught as a sport anyway, with some "self-defense" in as well...Originally posted by BadzMaro:All the martial arts i learnt..practically only taught me how to take the beating... sigh.. its pretty useless to me.
I was 3rd Dan Black Belt WTF TKD , 2 yrs Win Chun.. n i got my ass bashed up.. bleeding from my mouth , ears n nose by 18 ppl. But thank god to training.. i didnt fall like a sack of potatoes.. instead..became a punching bag for the masses. I will opt for machetes , sticks, glass bottles.. no honour in street fighting..
The 2 years of Win Chun study interest me. I normally have seen the name as Wing Chun, Wing Tsun, Ving Tsun, or Yong Chuan...And the only Wing Chun guy I ever visited...well I doubt you'd be saying that if you studied with him - Jason Lau - but it's back in USA. He would've probably had the training you liked - not my cup of tea, personally, but anyways...
Well at least you learned that martial arts aren't for you then. -
Well, when in 2nd Dang i was going for Combat/Sparring then towards teaching. Wing Chun is good.. not bad but just aint good enough. I still say go for those combat that teaches u how to survive in a brutal gangbang. Tae is all about defence.. n it becomes natural to block n stuff.. but when it comes to the real thing man.. i still think going for objects n randomly whacking is better..Originally posted by Northwind:I don't really understand how the teacher of your TKD class would advance you so far if you didn't do well in sparring? And I guess it depends on who/where you learned from - most TKD is taught as a sport anyway, with some "self-defense" in as well...
The 2 years of Win Chun study interest me. I normally have seen the name as Wing Chun, Wing Tsun, Ving Tsun, or Yong Chuan...And the only Wing Chun guy I ever visited...well I doubt you'd be saying that if you studied with him - Jason Lau - but it's back in USA. He would've probably had the training you liked - not my cup of tea, personally, but anyways...
Well at least you learned that martial arts aren't for you then. -
Your teacher should have been teaching applications, etc. all along. Like I said - TKD is generally taught as sport, and "sparring" and "combat" are two extremely different things.Originally posted by BadzMaro:Well, when in 2nd Dang i was going for Combat/Sparring then towards teaching.
lol - Sorry bro, but it's not the art that should be criticized but the individual student, teacher or school.Originally posted by BadzMaro:Wing Chun is good.. not bad but just aint good enough.
Then you definitely don't want martial arts, most of them shouldn't want you either. "Gang Bang" is usually a term representing someone who is "looking for fights"... Traditional martial arts are about much more than "surviving gangbangs"...Originally posted by BadzMaro:I still say go for those combat that teaches u how to survive in a brutal gangbang.Originally posted by BadzMaro:
Well, like I said - martial arts aren't for you. However, I somehow dont think your "randomly whacking is better..." will stand for the majority.
Tae is all about defence.. n it becomes natural to block n stuff.. but when it comes to the real thing man.. i still think going for objects n randomly whacking is better...
For example, if you take one person "randomly whacking" at me, I have a feeling that I'd have the advantage. But in a "GangBang", I wouldn't even be involved... -
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Wing Chun is one of the best martial arts in the world. It seems pretty useless, until you know how to apply it. Application is always hard.Originally posted by BadzMaro:Well, when in 2nd Dang i was going for Combat/Sparring then towards teaching. Wing Chun is good.. not bad but just aint good enough. I still say go for those combat that teaches u how to survive in a brutal gangbang. Tae is all about defence.. n it becomes natural to block n stuff.. but when it comes to the real thing man.. i still think going for objects n randomly whacking is better.. -
This has been quite a debate. Each martial arts has its own unique ways and speciality.Originally posted by ndmmxiaomayi:Wing Chun is one of the best martial arts in the world. It seems pretty useless, until you know how to apply it. Application is always hard.
So its not a good claim to say that wing chun is the best in the world. -
LOL, I didn't say the best in the world. I say one of the best.Originally posted by Shigemichi Take:This has been quite a debate. Each martial arts has its own unique ways and speciality.
So its not a good claim to say that wing chun is the best in the world.
If I say best, other martial artists will come hammering me. -
True, true.
Speaking of Wing Chun, though, I just found out there is are some WC classes very close to my place. Might go peek at them once I have some $ -
Who teaches you the martial arts? I want to learn.Originally posted by Northwind:True, true.
Speaking of Wing Chun, though, I just found out there is are some WC classes very close to my place. Might go peek at them once I have some $ -
Did you quote the right person? I didn't say that I was learning wing chun.Originally posted by ndmmxiaomayi:Who teaches you the martial arts? I want to learn.
"my place" is my flat