Designer cum Programmer
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err.. dunnoe shld post here anot.
wad do u call a person who does graphics design and traditional programming at the same time for both print and web and whatever media?
bao ka liao arh? -
cha pa lang
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graphical and programming is often done seperately...cos graphical design and programming is a different art...there is more to design than just buttons and scroll bars...Originally posted by Ito_^:err.. dunnoe shld post here anot.
wad do u call a person who does graphics design and traditional programming at the same time for both print and web and whatever media?
bao ka liao arh? -
but cha pa lang are getting popular nowadays.Originally posted by R3SsH|n:graphical and programming is often done seperately...cos graphical design and programming is a different art...there is more to design than just buttons and scroll bars...
i have been learning to do both as far as i can remember..
cannot really call myself cha pa lang right!? and cum this and cum dat oso.. like.. 
so wondering nowadays got term to call hybrids anot.. last time dun have. -
hanor...now is want cheap and multi-purpose...nowadays even what you learn in school is not enough...you have to pick up new skills all the time...Originally posted by Ito_^:but cha pa lang are getting popular nowadays.
i have been learning to do both as far as i can remember..
cannot really call myself cha pa lang right!? and cum this and cum dat oso.. like..
so wondering nowadays got term to call hybrids anot.. last time dun have. -
Yes, Bao Ka Liao or Cha Pa Lang. U will see them in local sweatshops that prides itself as a muti-disciplinary studio doing all sorts of work.
It is not healthy and it dilutes the creative process if that person does hardcore programming and then doing the web interface at the same time. -
multimedia developer
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anyways i think the creative process should be integrated into the development as well, shouldn't spilt two sides of the same coin. for print, its easier for someone to know the business process to come up with a suitable identity for this so and so company. for web, its the same. its important for the programmer to know what the artist is thinking about so they can work better together.
dats wad i think la. when i was sec 1 ok. -
you were thinking about programming and web page designing when you were sec 1?Originally posted by Ito_^:anyways i think the creative process should be integrated into the development as well, shouldn't spilt two sides of the same coin. for print, its easier for someone to know the business process to come up with a suitable identity for this so and so company. for web, its the same. its important for the programmer to know what the artist is thinking about so they can work better together.
dats wad i think la. when i was sec 1 ok. 
i only tot of playing soccer and xian-ing girls... -
xie xie!Originally posted by FireIce:multimedia developer
bt doesn't it generally refer to multimedia programs only?
o well.. close nuff.
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my dad bought me a comp ma.. so very excited.. den read more and more lor.. den i like to draw oso bt my mom dun like so oni way is to make nice nice webbies.. and stuff to print out oso.Originally posted by R3SsH|n:you were thinking about programming and web page designing when you were sec 1?
i only tot of playing soccer and xian-ing girls...
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I don't know if you're talking about both Creative design and programming should fall into the same path.Originally posted by Ito_^:anyways i think the creative process should be integrated into the development as well, shouldn't spilt two sides of the same coin. for print, its easier for someone to know the business process to come up with a suitable identity for this so and so company. for web, its the same. its important for the programmer to know what the artist is thinking about so they can work better together.
dats wad i think la. when i was sec 1 ok.
Creative process IS Development.
As for Creativity and Programming skills.
It should be spilt into two core subjects. In fact, it IS different subjects.
I agree, in this present age. The fast food era. Web designing are fast paced and advancing at tremendous speed. Whether in design or technology/programming wise.
It's good for a Web designer to have both skills. However, in long run. The designer will still have to end up choosing one over the other to specialise on.
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Really bao ka liao. So far, haven't seen such people yet, though I think it will be getting common because of competition.Originally posted by Ito_^:err.. dunnoe shld post here anot.
wad do u call a person who does graphics design and traditional programming at the same time for both print and web and whatever media?
bao ka liao arh?
For web, it's rather common. They are called multimedia developers as FI has said. For the other media, do you mean those like advertising, reporting, etc?
If yes, it's probably under the same name. For example, if they do advertising, they will be called advertisers and whatever fancy names the company gives. -
Multimedia is a pretty wide job scope now. You can be in the education industry, developing fun programs for primary and secondary school kids or even kids younger than that.Originally posted by Ito_^:xie xie!
bt doesn't it generally refer to multimedia programs only?
o well.. close nuff.
You can be in the gaming industry, developing Flash games, Shockwave games, Java games, etc.
You can also be in the animation industry. Big companies like Pixar you should have heard of. -
Creativity, as you said, is a process. What the artist thinks and what the programmer thinks will be different. Programming, on the other hand, is more than just process. It requires the development of something to get it started. In this case, will be what the artist is thinking.Originally posted by Ito_^:anyways i think the creative process should be integrated into the development as well, shouldn't spilt two sides of the same coin. for print, its easier for someone to know the business process to come up with a suitable identity for this so and so company. for web, its the same. its important for the programmer to know what the artist is thinking about so they can work better together.
dats wad i think la. when i was sec 1 ok.
Programming requires one to be systematic and logical, because that's how a computer works.
Creativity requires you to think out of the box, which can be illogical.
Translating something illogical into logical will be a test of both the programmer and artist, as the result may not be nice. It's hard to integrate both, though possible. -
become lunatic like me lor.Originally posted by ndmmxiaomayi:Creativity, as you said, is a process. What the artist thinks and what the programmer thinks will be different. Programming, on the other hand, is more than just process. It requires the development of something to get it started. In this case, will be what the artist is thinking.
Programming requires one to be systematic and logical, because that's how a computer works.
Creativity requires you to think out of the box, which can be illogical.
Translating something illogical into logical will be a test of both the programmer and artist, as the result may not be nice. It's hard to integrate both, though possible. -
You can try.Originally posted by Ito_^:become lunatic like me lor. -
Become lunatic cannot do programming.Originally posted by Ito_^:become lunatic like me lor.
Logical and systematic are the 2 keywords in become successful for programming. Try combining both the result will either be nice or disastrous only. -
trying.Originally posted by M©+square:You can try.
if i go mental muz visit me. -
you won't go mental. You'll just get upset over lousy works.Originally posted by Ito_^:trying.
if i go mental muz visit me. -
You won't go mental trying it, just get depressed that technology is still so limited.Originally posted by Ito_^:trying.
if i go mental muz visit me. -
You must DARE to make mistakes. Only then you can improve
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Graphics = Designer
Programming = Programmer
Famous programmers usually are able to to designs as well and vice versa, due to the long years of experience they have working with their partners. A good example would be the designer of Final Fantasy. -
i hv a dip in multimedia computing...
am i considered to b one dat does both? -
A diploma doesn't say much about your career. The job that you're holding would be a better testimonial of what you are.