RIAA droped some cases recently
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RIAA Will Drop Cases If You Point Out That An IP Address Isn't A Person
For years, the RIAA has claimed that having the IP address of a computer that has shared unauthorized files is the equivalent of having the evidence of who was actually sharing files.
That, of course, is false.
The IP address simply can help you know who paid for the internet access, but not who was using what computer on a network.
In fact, this even had some people suggesting that, if you want to win a lawsuit from the RIAA, you're best off opening up your WiFi network to neighbors. It seems like this strategy might actually be working.
Earlier this month the inability to prove who actually did the file sharing caused the RIAA to drop a case in Oklahoma and now it looks like the same defense has worked in a California case as well.
In both cases, though, as soon as the RIAA realized the person was using this defense, they dropped the case, rather than lose it and set a precedent showing they really don't have the unequivocal evidence they claim they do.
The RIAA certainly has the legal right to go after people, even if it simply ends up pissing off their best fans and driving people to spend their money on other forms of entertainment -- but, if they want to do so, they should at least have legitimate evidence.
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The guys at techdirt.com(post above) are reporting that the RIAA dropped two cases recently where the defendant claimed that it was not him using the IP to download copyrighted files.
The only evidence the RIAA lawyers can gather when opening a case is the IP address that did the download. Every IP address in use can be traced back to a person who was given that IP at the time of the downloads.
They always argued that the person who owned the connection would be the same person who did the downloads which in itself is not logical. What about shared connections, insecure wireless connections and the like ?
It seems that the lawyers are not sure that their 'evidence' would hold up in court and decided to drop the case before a judge would make them lose the case.
Losing a case would mean that it would not be possible to collect IPs of down loaders and sue the person paying for the connection. This could possibly mean that they would not be able to sue a single down loader because their 'evidence' would hold in court. Better drop the case and hope that not to many read this story..
If you know someone who is getting sued by the RIAA let him know about this article and the link to techdirt, this could help him a lot.
How to check your own IP
http://www.ghacks.net/ip/
Mayi, please vet thru this link to ensure no nasty cookies or trojans are in there.
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They should!!!! If not how are they going to fund the fight in iraqi.
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Square, the link is all right.
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Thanks.Originally posted by ndmmxiaomayi:Square, the link is all right. -
How I wish they really sue and get some tech experts to prove that an IP address can be shared and make RIAA embarrassed. How RIAA collects IP addresses is already a big issue. They never say how they get the info.
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rumour is the isp reveal the ip address to riaa...though this is unethical i think...Originally posted by ndmmxiaomayi:How I wish they really sue and get some tech experts to prove that an IP address can be shared and make RIAA embarrassed. How RIAA collects IP addresses is already a big issue. They never say how they get the info.
whether it breaks the agreement between the user...the provider and the law...i am not sure... -
Read a report last year. ISPs have always been providing reports to the authorities monthly in order to assist investigations of criminal activity.Originally posted by R3SsH|n:rumour is the isp reveal the ip address to riaa...though this is unethical i think...
whether it breaks the agreement between the user...the provider and the law...i am not sure... -
Singapore needs a Data Protection Act in which no ISP records shall be transmitted unless through a court order.
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come on this is singapore where you have no legal privacy at allOriginally posted by LazerLordz:Singapore needs a Data Protection Act in which no ISP records shall be transmitted unless through a court order. -
Hmm.... that means it's not from tip-off. Every time there's such a case, RIAA would say it receives tip-offs from members of the public. Something is going on in between...Originally posted by chanff8:Read a report last year. ISPs have always been providing reports to the authorities monthly in order to assist investigations of criminal activity. -
When that happens, I'll be singapore's one and only trillionare.Originally posted by LazerLordz:Singapore needs a Data Protection Act in which no ISP records shall be transmitted unless through a court order. -
AFAIK, once a gahmen org ask ISP for info, they will give...especially law enforcement....just fax a letterhead bearing the enforcement agency's logo and ask for info and u will get back wat u want rather quickly one....Originally posted by ndmmxiaomayi:Hmm.... that means it's not from tip-off. Every time there's such a case, RIAA would say it receives tip-offs from members of the public. Something is going on in between... -
RIAAOriginally posted by ndmmxiaomayi:How I wish they really sue and get some tech experts to prove that an IP address can be shared and make RIAA embarrassed. How RIAA collects IP addresses is already a big issue. They never say how they get the info.
Retarded Idiots and Annyoing Assholes -
x2Originally posted by lpx88:RIAA
Retarded Idiots and Annyoing Assholes
Suing dead people and families with no internet connections nor computers -
Nice!Originally posted by lpx88:RIAA
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Originally posted by chanff8:x2
Suing dead people and families with no internet connections nor computers
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Ya, there's an article on it. Damn funny.Originally posted by lpx88:
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It's very easy to find out the IP address.
There are websites out there with home page just for that. Go to their home page and they will display your address and your server (pacnet, singnet or starhub).
Then RIAA has evidence that the IP is downloading illegal stuff, gets a court order and forces the ISP to give out the subscribers information.
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Originally posted by lpx88:
Suing dead people? Speaking of which sparks an idea.
One can just apply an account with a dead guy's ID and download away. -
i thought ip can be traced easily?
riaa cannot share the files themselves then look at what ip are d/ling? or riaa go to those file sharing site/ p2p programs then download and see which ip they d/ling from?
im a noob at these so i asking. is it possible?
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Originally posted by digicharat:i thought ip can be traced easily?
riaa cannot share the files themselves then look at what ip are d/ling? or riaa go to those file sharing site/ p2p programs then download and see which ip they d/ling from?
im a noob at these so i asking. is it possible? Super easy to trace.
If you're using a bit torrent client, most likely it has a feature that shows you who you're downloading from. If you know who you're downloading from, it will show the IP.
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so do you think my conspiracy theory of riaa sharing music to people and d/ling from people in order to get hold of their ip is possible?
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possible but i doubt dey do that...Originally posted by digicharat:so do you think my conspiracy theory of riaa sharing music to people and d/ling from people in order to get hold of their ip is possible?