help me build a desktop
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just give me the names of the parts for a gaming pc not costing more than $1500, and preferably make it light so i can bring it around for repairs.
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Do you want a brand new PC or you want to reuse some parts like the hard disk?
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a new one for my brother
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most PC case weighs so your request is hardly possible. to mostpc builders who are in to games, their concern is never the weight. god knows shit happens but for them they are concerned about compatibility issues and most of all - the performance.Originally posted by Cenarious:just give me the names of the parts for a gaming pc not costing more than $1500, and preferably make it light so i can bring it around for repairs.
if u want a lighter PC gaming rig get an alluminium case as compared to steel cases they are lighter.
my suggestion is if you need to bring your whole PC down to a tech guy to look inot, just dismantle and remove all the cards and hard disks and power-on card ( with push button) in the case and bring it over to the tech. set up there (withoout the case is possible) and let the guy work on the system for you.
ok serious, some gaming cases come with a carrying handle at the top so its more convenient to be moved around. Some Antec LanBoy cases have strap-ons that allows the case to be slung over like a haversack or bag, or hand-carried like a suitcase. you should check out such cases.
back to the wieght there is nothing much we can say 'cept that the total weight of the hdds, boards and cards and Psu weighs just so and the better part of the difference lies on the case itself. -
You can get one of those small-form casing..... but heat is a great problem.
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yeh possible, but you will limit yourself only to a micro/ mini-ATX mobo. if you happen to want a bulky kick a ss graphics card, cramp everything inside the SFF case u wish. as for heat...he will have to just 'work' on it.Originally posted by hloc:You can get one of those small-form casing..... but heat is a great problem. -
A rouge guide
Abit KN9 Ultra nf570 + AM2 A3000 processor - $290
Kingston PC 4200 1GB RAM - $189
Seagate 80GB Hard Disk (SATA II) - $79
Asus V9250 128MB Graphic Card (AGP) - $62
Sony CD-RW/DVD Combo Drive - $50
iCute 0311SL 450 watts + 2 fans - $98
Viewsonic 17" VA702 8ms LCD monitor - $288
Logitec Internet Pro Desktop Keyboard and Mouse - $29
Total - $1085
Without operating system. -
And adding expansion cards are a problem.Originally posted by hloc:You can get one of those small-form casing..... but heat is a great problem. -
i dont know how to construct or dismantle a pc. im going to carry the built up thing home.
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Mayi,Originally posted by ndmmxiaomayi:A rouge guide
Abit KN9 Ultra nf570 + AM2 A3000 processor - $290
Kingston PC 4200 1GB RAM - $189
Seagate 80GB Hard Disk (SATA II) - $79
Asus V9250 128MB Graphic Card (AGP) - $62
Sony CD-RW/DVD Combo Drive - $50
iCute 0311SL 450 watts + 2 fans - $98
Viewsonic 17" VA702 8ms LCD monitor - $288
Logitec Internet Pro Desktop Keyboard and Mouse - $29
Total - $1085
Without operating system.
the last time i had a copy of the original windows XP home OS was at S$399. now the price may have fallen but i am not sure. even if it has not that totals to $1484. We tokin Singapore dollars right? Well if you get something like Linux Suse or Redhat it will bring down the overall cost but make sure the games you play are supported by the open source OS youshall be using.
looking at the specs IMO the graphics card is weak. the ram is redundant and may not be compatible with the DDR2 board. the PC4200 modules are DDR and comes in play when u wanna overclock that ABit lass and the AM2 babe. I don't think is possible since the board u recommended are newer DDR2. otherwise getting a PC4300 DDR2 at $120 (1 gig) should bring the excess in cash over to a better graphics card. That iCute case psu is it trust worthy? hope the railings have enough amps to support the games. -
i don't like the way u ask for help.
so i am not going to help you... -
Rough guide only...Originally posted by pipipopo:the last time i had a copy of the original windows XP home OS was at S$399. now the price may have fallen but i am not sure. even if it has not that totals to $1484. We tokin Singapore dollars right? Well if yo uget something like Linux Suse or Redhat it will bring down the overall cost but make sure the games you play are supported by the open source OS youshall be using.
looking at the specs IMO the graphics card is weak. the ram is redundant and only comes in play which u wanna overclock that ABit lass and the AM2 babe. otherwise getting a $120 valueram at 1 gig should bring the excess in cash over to getting a better graphics card. That iCute case psu is it trust worthy? hope the railings have enough amps to support the games.
Enough to play games but probably not overclock. The two fans are not enough to cover the heat.
Yeah... the cost of the OS has dropped.
Most games aren't supported on Linux, so I doubt he will get a Suse or Red Hat.
He wants it light, so I got him an iCute. Damn light. But how long it lasts I don't know. I don't use iCute. You seem the name also know already.
I use Cooler Master as my casing, it's rather heavy even when empty, and it's not even made of steel. My 2 other PCs casings which are made of steel are way lighter than the Cooler Master even with the motherboard and hardware in it. But Cooler Master last long... sturdy also.
Graphics card ar... enough to support a decent game, but probably not Vista when it comes out.
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Mind you, that iCute may be light, but I have no idea how long it can last. Light things don't do well, in my opinion.Originally posted by Cenarious:i dont know how to construct or dismantle a pc. im going to carry the built up thing home. -
sorry some mistakes in my post...see the latest edited one at the orignial column. i haven't check all the hardware specs before making the post.Originally posted by ndmmxiaomayi:Rough guide only...
Enough to play games but probably not overclock. The two fans are not enough to cover the heat.
Yeah... the cost of the OS has dropped.
Most games aren't supported on Linux, so I doubt he will get a Suse or Red Hat.
He wants it light, so I got him an iCute. Damn light. But how long it lasts I don't know. I don't use iCute. You seem the name also know already.
I use Cooler Master as my casing, it's rather heavy even when empty, and it's not even made of steel. My 2 other PCs casings which are made of steel are way lighter than the Cooler Master even with the motherboard and hardware in it. But Cooler Master last long... sturdy also.
Graphics card ar... enough to support a decent game, but probably not Vista when it comes out.
Edit: typo error.
also the abit AM2 sockets have the KN9 ultra and SLi. your '570' chipset recommendation belongs to the SLi build which is redundant and adds to the overall cost unless the TS wants to add another card to go about with the Sli for large screen support? the KN9 ultra should be more appropriate. -
Hmm.... that's a bundle. Not sure if it has SLi. It bundles the motherboard and AMD processor.Originally posted by pipipopo:sorry some mistakes in my post...see the latest edited one at the orignial column. i haven't check all the hardware specs before making the post.
also the abit AM2 sockets have the KN9 ultra and SLi. your '570' chipset recommendation belongs to the SLi build which is redundant and adds to the overall cost unless the TS wants to add another card to go about with the Sli for large screen support? the KN9 ultra should be more appropriate.
The RAM is a DDR2. It's a PC4200 RAM, not PC4000. PC4000 and below are DDR RAM. -
thanks for bumping this up anyway.Originally posted by R3SsH|n:i don't like the way u ask for help.
so i am not going to help you... -
you better check out the mobo since i got the information from Abit homepage.Originally posted by ndmmxiaomayi:Hmm.... that's a bundle. Not sure if it has SLi. It bundles the motherboard and AMD processor.
The RAM is a DDR2. It's a PC4200 RAM, not PC4000. PC4000 and below are DDR RAM.
AM2 socket based Abit boards here
http://www.abit-usa.com/products/mb/socketam2.php
if its an Sli (chip '570') then you will get an addition graphis card slot for SLi (just like ATI's crossfire). with 2 graphics card connection.
for the random access memory i got it from hardware zone
http://sg.hardwarezone.com/priceguide/cat.php?id=173
there are PC4200(DDR533) modules which are non-DDR2 here:
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Hmm... looks like there's lot of contradictory information out there.Originally posted by pipipopo:you better check out the mobo since i got the information from Abit homepage.
AM2 socket based Abit boards here
http://www.abit-usa.com/products/mb/socketam2.php
if its an Sli (chip '570') then you will get an addition graphis card slot for SLi (just like ATI's crossfire). with 2 graphics card connection.
for the random access memory i got it from hardware zone
http://sg.hardwarezone.com/priceguide/cat.php?id=173
there are PC4200(DDR533) modules which are non-DDR2 here:
http://www.ddrmemoryram.com/
On Kingston's website (http://www.kingston.com/), it is a DDR2 RAM.
For the motherboard, I got him this series.
Nothing about the SLi though.
The whole pricing I took it out from a shop called Fuwell. -
that latest Abit board you recommended is a KN9 Ultra...must be some mistake with the fuwell configuration. Anyway the KN9 SLi nf570 you recommended in the first posting is a SLi with dual PCI-e graphics slot. The KN9 Ultra has only one graphcis card slot which i think should suit the configuration.Originally posted by ndmmxiaomayi:Hmm... looks like there's lot of contradictory information out there.
On Kingston's website (http://www.kingston.com/), it is a DDR2 RAM.
For the motherboard, I got him this series.
Nothing about the SLi though.
The whole pricing I took it out from a shop called Fuwell.
as for the ram i can't find any PC4300 DDR with Kingston's product series. but i did find a DDR (non DDR2) PC4300 DDR533 with Twinmos here http://www.twinmos.com.sg/p_ram/memory_desktop_ddr_533.asp. Its way past the PC4000 timing. -
should i just go to the shop and tell the shopkeeper my budget and let him decide for me?
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Could be. Maybe the people will know there.Originally posted by pipipopo:that latest Abit board you recommended is a KN9 Ultra...must be some mistake with the fuwell configuration. Anyway the KN9 SLi nf570 you recommended in the first posting is a SLi with dual PCI-e graphics slot. The KN9 Ultra has only one graphcis card slot which i think should suit the configuration.
as for the ram i can't find any PC4300 DDR with Kingston's product series. but i did find a DDR (non DDR2) PC4300 DDR533 with Twinmos here http://www.twinmos.com.sg/p_ram/memory_desktop_ddr_533.asp. Its way past the PC4000 timing.
As for the PC4300 RAM, there seems to have lots of standards out there. Kingston produces it as a DDR SDRAM, not DDR2. See Kingston's report
DDR SDRAM has 184 pins, while DDR2 has 240 pins. Most other companies produces it as DDR2 SDRAM.
There's some difference in how the manufacturers rate their RAM. No idea why. To be sure, just check the website of the manufacturer. TWINMOS and Kingston in this case, is very obvious in how they rate it. -
Never do this. They will give the lowest quality.Originally posted by Cenarious:should i just go to the shop and tell the shopkeeper my budget and let him decide for me? -
yeh i remembered long before the DDR2 back in the DDR days there were several manufacturers that make DDR memory modules at post PC4000. some were as highly rated as PC5300! Anyway f the intial one u recommended were intended and suits the mobo then it should be fine. as for the mobo i just check and downloaded the latest offer from Fuwell and it seems they spec out 'Abit KN9 Ultra NF570'. so if buyers who are interested may want to check out of its an Ultra or a SLi board prior to purchasing.Originally posted by ndmmxiaomayi:Could be. Maybe the people will know there.
As for the PC4300 RAM, there seems to have lots of standards out there. Kingston produces it as a DDR SDRAM, not DDR2. See Kingston's report
DDR SDRAM has 184 pins, while DDR2 has 240 pins. Most other companies produces it as DDR2 SDRAM.
There's some difference in how the manufacturers rate their RAM. No idea why. To be sure, just check the website of the manufacturer. TWINMOS and Kingston in this case, is very obvious in how they rate it. -
Yeah... now the rating has gone haywire.Originally posted by pipipopo:yeh i remembered long before the DDR2 back in the DDR days there were several manufacturers that make DDR memory modules at post PC4000. some were as highly rated as PC5300! Anyway f the intial one u recommended were intended and suits the mobo then it should be fine. as for the mobo i just check and downloaded the latest offer from Fuwell and it seems they spec out 'Abit KN9 Ultra NF570'. so if buyers who are interested may want to check out of its an Ultra or a SLi board prior to purchasing.
It should suit the motherboard. If it doesn't, the shopkeeper is able to substitute it with a suitable part.
As for Ultra or SLi, up to the user again. -
Oh ya..U gettin a new OS?cause since's mayi's calculation is a a few hundred bucks less than 1500 bucks, U might wana get a 256Mb graphics card.