SSID not boradcast also can see.. zzzz
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my brother just bought his laptop from SP.the high end one.. den the laptop got bundled with a wireless internet program which can see no SSID broadcast Zzz..
just to confirm.. isn't it breaking the rules of 802.11? marchiam like no privacy sia -
Windows own wireless program also can...
Provided if you know the SSID. I'm willing to bet that his program is something like a passive scanner, can "see" a lot of things but do nothing to it.
But if the program doesn't need any SSID input to "see" the SSID, then it has in a lot of ways broken security rules... not too sure for 802.11 rules though... -
got a noob question here...
if dun broadcast SSID...then how I know which wireless network to connect to?
(assuming more than 1 network without SSID broadcast)
its like...U know the network is there...but U dunno which one is it... -
windows one can meh? got any SS?Originally posted by ndmmxiaomayi:Windows own wireless program also can...
Provided if you know the SSID. I'm willing to bet that his program is something like a passive scanner, can "see" a lot of things but do nothing to it.
But if the program doesn't need any SSID input to "see" the SSID, then it has in a lot of ways broken security rules... not too sure for 802.11 rules though...
its not the SSID input matter.. is that the router is set not to broadcast any ssid.. even though is given one SSID...
btw my brother using one is intel proset wireless... -
if it does not broadcast, u must manually set the ssid to connect to in your wireless internet program.Originally posted by Xcert:got a noob question here...
if dun broadcast SSID...then how I know which wireless network to connect to?
(assuming more than 1 network without SSID broadcast)
its like...U know the network is there...but U dunno which one is it... -
In ancient times, SSID cannot be disabled mah. So, all computers using the same access point can "see" the SSID. Then, some people realized that all the computers in range used the same SSID, so got light bulb on lah. They figured out how to use the SSID loophole to go into other people's computer and do things lah. Then, technicians all headache lor..Originally posted by manyu882:my brother just bought his laptop from SP.the high end one.. den the laptop got bundled with a wireless internet program which can see no SSID broadcast Zzz..
just to confirm.. isn't it breaking the rules of 802.11? marchiam like no privacy sia
So, to save the headache, the technician disabled the SSID feature lah. Now no one can "see" so no crimes lah. Improved security mah, especially for public places like SP. Now, we wait to see who is the first person who can be re-enable the SSID lor..
Read this article
http://netsecurity.about.com/od/quicktip1/qt/qtwifinossid.htm -
Don't worry. The access point will automatically "log" you in if you are close enough. If it doesn't, tell the nearest technician lor..
It could be that your computer is "resisting" the access point to let you in, aka wrong settings. -
Manyu.Originally posted by manyu882:my brother just bought his laptop from SP.the high end one.. den the laptop got bundled with a wireless internet program which can see no SSID broadcast Zzz..
just to confirm.. isn't it breaking the rules of 802.11? marchiam like no privacy sia
Which version of 802.11 are you referring?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_802.11
http://compnetworking.about.com/cs/wireless80211/a/aa80211standard_2.htm
Mayi.
Which one do you choose? No privacy or Computer "Sharing"? -
If it's your own network, you obviously will know which one to connect to. Most wireless programs allow you to connect to an SSID that is not broadcasted as long as the SSID input and/or WEP/WPA keys are entered correctly.Originally posted by Xcert:got a noob question here...
if dun broadcast SSID...then how I know which wireless network to connect to?
(assuming more than 1 network without SSID broadcast)
its like...U know the network is there...but U dunno which one is it...
My own Dlink wireless program does the same thing.
The only exception is that if you are on Linux. Linux can't connect to any networks if the SSID is not broadcast... I nearly fainted configuring my own wireless, only to realize that I've disabled SSID broadcast... -
Can... you go and try on your laptop. Disable SSID broadcast, manually configure the Windows wireless to connect to a your network. It will miraculously connect.Originally posted by manyu882:windows one can meh? got any SS?
its not the SSID input matter.. is that the router is set not to broadcast any ssid.. even though is given one SSID...
btw my brother using one is intel proset wireless...
Then after that log in and change the SSID, the laptop will not connect liao... -
What you meant by this?Originally posted by Conner MacDermott:Mayi.
Which one do you choose? No privacy or Computer "Sharing"? -
Typo. Privacy or Computer "Sharing" -> aka you got intruders on your computer.
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No privacy better than having intruders.
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802.11g... linksys router same as in the picture oneOriginally posted by Conner MacDermott:Manyu.
Which version of 802.11 are you referring?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_802.11
http://compnetworking.about.com/cs/wireless80211/a/aa80211standard_2.htm
Mayi.
Which one do you choose? No privacy or Computer "Sharing"? -
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ah ic.. chey.. i mean as in see when u seach for wireless connection.. wait ah i show u smthOriginally posted by ndmmxiaomayi:Can... you go and try on your laptop. Disable SSID broadcast, manually configure the Windows wireless to connect to a your network. It will miraculously connect.
Then after that log in and change the SSID, the laptop will not connect liao...
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Sorry, I can't reply your question.Originally posted by manyu882:my brother just bought his laptop from SP.the high end one.. den the laptop got bundled with a wireless internet program which can see no SSID broadcast Zzz..
just to confirm.. isn't it breaking the rules of 802.11? marchiam like no privacy sia
Because I have no idea what your are asking.
Maybe Mayi can help you? -
If you meant 802.11i, then maybe I can help..
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Interesting. Windows own wireless can't do this... now I get your meaning.Originally posted by manyu882:ah ic.. chey.. i mean as in see when u seach for wireless connection.. wait ah i show u smth
That we have to ask Intel... wireless connection programs aren't supposed to do this! -
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tar.gz files are openable in Windows, but without the correct Linux commands, these files won't work.
They will need to be compiled into binary files before running on Windows.
Use Aircrack or Netstumbler to reveal the SSID. -
Mayi. Since you are so...
I remove the post. -
the newlaptop now have this function on wireless setting .. tick to view hidden SSID ..
so now brodcast or hidden make no different anymore ...
quite surprise too when playting around with the new batch of office laptop -
Originally posted by Conner MacDermott:Mayi. Since you are so...
I remove the post.