Discussion: DIY a PC or buy branded ones
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Originally posted by uaremyfayth:bro...ghz le lah
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You DIY also got warranty de mah, every single item inside ranging from processor to PSU ram and HDD even ur GFX card all got manufacturer warranty.Originally posted by gigabyte14:i prefer branded
cos got warranty and free gift
i oso scare here scare there spoil 1
soooooooooo
But problem is, u need to go different places when different item spoil
Then hor, what if your computer won't start up?
You need to spend time or even money for someone to come and check to see what is wrong, isolate the problem to a component then find where to send it for service.
You buy branded one just make phone call ask them come down collect and be done with it.
And also hor, my cousin bought a computer from courts 3 years ago, bought extended warranty for +$200 the blardy gfx card keep spoil, one year spoil 2 - 3 times, dunno is he watch too much av or what, then recently courts ran out of Nvidia GF4s so they upgraded his mother board gave him a 6600 -.-""
THen his monitor from 19 inch 4:3 dunno what china brand now is acer 20" wide. His warranty ends next month. -
That's why it's called convenience.Originally posted by uaremyfayth:You DIY also got warranty de mah, every single item inside ranging from processor to PSU ram and HDD even ur GFX card all got manufacturer warranty.
But problem is, u need to go different places when different item spoil
Then hor, what if your computer won't start up?
You need to spend time or even money for someone to come and check to see what is wrong, isolate the problem to a component then find where to send it for service.
You buy branded one just make phone call ask them come down collect and be done with it. -
Last time hor... I had to bring down the Acer one OK and also the HP laptop... have to bring down one... and the HP laptop hor, so funny, after the repairs, anyone can just quote the reference number and they give you the laptop!!!! I was so shocked!
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Originally posted by AndrewPKYap:Last time hor... I had to bring down the Acer one OK and also the HP laptop... have to bring down one... and the HP laptop hor, so funny, after the repairs, anyone can just quote the reference number and they give you the laptop!!!! I was so shocked!
If anybody caught hold of the reference number pattern, Goodbye to my laptop.
Lucky Acer not like that. -
ya lor! I was also think the same... even if they replace with new... data will be gone...Originally posted by ndmmxiaomayi:
If anybody caught hold of the reference number pattern, Goodbye to my laptop.
Lucky Acer not like that. -
Is HP still practising this?Originally posted by AndrewPKYap:ya lor! I was also think the same... even if they replace with new... data will be gone... -
The incident I talked about was only a couple of months back! Even the one that went to collect was shocked because they never asked for anything other than the ref number!Originally posted by ndmmxiaomayi:Is HP still practising this? -
the problem isOriginally posted by uaremyfayth:You DIY also got warranty de mah, every single item inside ranging from processor to PSU ram and HDD even ur GFX card all got manufacturer warranty.
But problem is, u need to go different places when different item spoil
Then hor, what if your computer won't start up?
You need to spend time or even money for someone to come and check to see what is wrong, isolate the problem to a component then find where to send it for service.
You buy branded one just make phone call ask them come down collect and be done with it.
And also hor, my cousin bought a computer from courts 3 years ago, bought extended warranty for +$200 the blardy gfx card keep spoil, one year spoil 2 - 3 times, dunno is he watch too much av or what, then recently courts ran out of Nvidia GF4s so they upgraded his mother board gave him a 6600 -.-""
THen his monitor from 19 inch 4:3 dunno what china brand now is acer 20" wide. His warranty ends next month.
DIY i dunno how to fix ma
i oso scare later they extra charge lor -
I thot you in POLY???!!!
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Who is that "you" you referring to?Originally posted by AndrewPKYap:I thot you in POLY???!!! -
They need a wake up call. If the employee is one theirs and they lost a laptop this way, I'm going to send them an orbi good e-card.Originally posted by AndrewPKYap:The incident I talked about was only a couple of months back! Even the one that went to collect was shocked because they never asked for anything other than the ref number!
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the guy that said he dunno how to fix...Originally posted by ndmmxiaomayi:Who is that "you" you referring to? -
1) The main problem now with computers are not the CPU... By changing the architecture and some software of the processor does help in the performance of the computer but the help is really insignificant. The main problem now with computer is the harddisk. The accessing speed of harddisk is too slow for the ram or CPU to run even faster... Therefore, the technology breakthrough tat I mean is the invention of faster but affordable harddisk...Originally posted by ndmmxiaomayi:1. A lot of applications are still optimized for 32-bit platforms and single core CPUs, which is why there isn't any improvements. Between 2005 and 2007, I've seen a great improvement for 32-bit programs on single core CPU. They no longer use as much resources or have other sort of bugs which eats resources.
However, the same can't be said for duo core or even quad core CPU and 64-bit platforms PC. Although some programs are specifically for such platforms, the programs more or less are going the way of their predecessor.
2. Not really. It really depends.
3. LOL, Accepted.
4. OK, nice friend you are.
As for you... well... nothing to say. You are contradictory.
1 & 2) Most computer users do not really need very good computers... Majority will use computer to surf net, download, play and use simple applications... They do not need really expensive computers and thus if they diy themself, it doesnt really save much... <---- assuming diy uses original software
In fact, it is encouragble to buy the cheapest computer... lol... Reason is very simple... Computer depreciates very fast... And therefore, one should buy the cheapest and make the computer dl 24 hrs daily... You use cheapest computer and force the computer do lots of work... In return, save more money ><
I am not being contradictory. It is just a pride ---> I know tat I m in the wrong but I still insist I m in the right.... Well... u can say male ego if u want... >< -
i prefer DIY cos save money.
if i'm rich i just buy branded one... saves the trouble building it. -
i've been using a DIY comp for almost 3yrs.. goodddaaammniiittt i swear to change to dell after this one get outdated..
causes so much problem initially graphic cards spoil then spent like 3 days to get a new one replaced.. then monitor dont how come also can spoil,not even a single pixel can light up. a whole pitch of darkness... then again i have to spend some time figuring out which hardware failed then finally sometime later,got it replaced.. then juz a week ago got a power surge...WAAAAA!!!!
ram stick the slot kenna burnt until got black patch..
powersupply spoil
monitor no screen.. then motherboard cpu fan also not moving CCB at that moment my mind went blank.blank because its totally impossible for me to figure out exactly which hardware failed.. then initially want to get a new harddisk,then a new mobo,then finally it comes to psu... whole fixing process took a whole month.. goddamn if it was a dell i would just have to pick up the phone and the comp got a fixed by at most a week.. i WILL choose dell depite the higher price cuz if major hardware failure at least i would have something to fall back on.. not lost in the forest all alone buying parts to try out exactly which hardware failed and need to replace. -
me is diy supporter for 11 yrs liao
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lol... u diy yr computer wrongly, is it ??Originally posted by amusing_dick:i've been using a DIY comp for almost 3yrs.. goodddaaammniiittt i swear to change to dell after this one get outdated..
causes so much problem initially graphic cards spoil then spent like 3 days to get a new one replaced.. then monitor dont how come also can spoil,not even a single pixel can light up. a whole pitch of darkness... then again i have to spend some time figuring out which hardware failed then finally sometime later,got it replaced.. then juz a week ago got a power surge...WAAAAA!!!!
ram stick the slot kenna burnt until got black patch..
powersupply spoil
monitor no screen.. then motherboard cpu fan also not moving CCB at that moment my mind went blank.blank because its totally impossible for me to figure out exactly which hardware failed.. then initially want to get a new harddisk,then a new mobo,then finally it comes to psu... whole fixing process took a whole month.. goddamn if it was a dell i would just have to pick up the phone and the comp got a fixed by at most a week.. i WILL choose dell depite the higher price cuz if major hardware failure at least i would have something to fall back on.. not lost in the forest all alone buying parts to try out exactly which hardware failed and need to replace. -
if u buy dell, i think it will give u even more problems.Originally posted by amusing_dick:i've been using a DIY comp for almost 3yrs.. goodddaaammniiittt i swear to change to dell after this one get outdated..
causes so much problem initially graphic cards spoil then spent like 3 days to get a new one replaced.. then monitor dont how come also can spoil,not even a single pixel can light up. a whole pitch of darkness... then again i have to spend some time figuring out which hardware failed then finally sometime later,got it replaced.. then juz a week ago got a power surge...WAAAAA!!!!
ram stick the slot kenna burnt until got black patch..
powersupply spoil
monitor no screen.. then motherboard cpu fan also not moving CCB at that moment my mind went blank.blank because its totally impossible for me to figure out exactly which hardware failed.. then initially want to get a new harddisk,then a new mobo,then finally it comes to psu... whole fixing process took a whole month.. goddamn if it was a dell i would just have to pick up the phone and the comp got a fixed by at most a week.. i WILL choose dell depite the higher price cuz if major hardware failure at least i would have something to fall back on.. not lost in the forest all alone buying parts to try out exactly which hardware failed and need to replace. -
You definitely need an OEM one.Originally posted by amusing_dick:i've been using a DIY comp for almost 3yrs.. goodddaaammniiittt i swear to change to dell after this one get outdated..
causes so much problem initially graphic cards spoil then spent like 3 days to get a new one replaced.. then monitor dont how come also can spoil,not even a single pixel can light up. a whole pitch of darkness... then again i have to spend some time figuring out which hardware failed then finally sometime later,got it replaced.. then juz a week ago got a power surge...WAAAAA!!!!
ram stick the slot kenna burnt until got black patch..
powersupply spoil
monitor no screen.. then motherboard cpu fan also not moving CCB at that moment my mind went blank.blank because its totally impossible for me to figure out exactly which hardware failed.. then initially want to get a new harddisk,then a new mobo,then finally it comes to psu... whole fixing process took a whole month.. goddamn if it was a dell i would just have to pick up the phone and the comp got a fixed by at most a week.. i WILL choose dell depite the higher price cuz if major hardware failure at least i would have something to fall back on.. not lost in the forest all alone buying parts to try out exactly which hardware failed and need to replace. -
HiOriginally posted by freedom4ever:if u buy dell, i think it will give u even more problems.
On what basis do you think Dell desktops will be problematic? Maybe its their laptops last time that will explode..
I am a happy Dell desktop user with no absolute complaints! Dell has'nt failed me once ever since I bought their Dimension E520 last December.
I used to laugh at Dell users, claiming their quality sucks. But after buying last December (cuz no $$ to DIY), I have been very very impressed. So too are my die-hard anti-basher friends. -
DIY of course!
First of all u customize your own pc, and cheaper!
Those branded ones always sound so good during the ads but it sux ! -
We are flattered..indeed DIY isn't just for anyone or everyoneOriginally posted by ndmmxiaomayi:You definitely need an OEM one. -
I'm using a Dell Dimension 8200. It has lasted me for almost 6 years already. The hard disk has never crashed before. The only thing that went out of commission was the CPU fan that died a few months ago. Took me half a day to find the part from Sim Lim, where this vendor canibalized an old 8200.
But then Dell's tech support is not very good, especially with a call center based in Malaysia. It takes months for them to do a simple repair.
My two cents is, if you are a tech idiot, better to stick to a branded computer. Try to look for reliable brands with good tech support. With a DIY computer, YOU are your own tech support. Of course, if you have the privilege of knowing IT expert friends and hardware enthusiasts, you can always ask them for help. -
I feel that part of the reason holding some DIY enthhusiast back is the 64bit OS. The hard disk is reasoned as the slowest component of a pC because it is the only part operating by mechanical means. However only a fraction of a chunk of data leaves the hdd at one time before being broken up into many more fragments for data processing down the stream to the CPU and buffered at the ram. With hdd going SATAII and possibly SATAIII or higher, throughput has been greatly increased. seek times of hdd have also improved down to 4ms (seagate) and 2ms (WD raptor). One of the challenges to hdd maker now is making reliable hdd with larger storage capacity to satisfy the digital multimedia age and users.Originally posted by ispyyy:1) The main problem now with computers are not the CPU... By changing the architecture and some software of the processor does help in the performance of the computer but the help is really insignificant. The main problem now with computer is the harddisk. The accessing speed of harddisk is too slow for the ram or CPU to run even faster... Therefore, the technology breakthrough tat I mean is the invention of faster but affordable harddisk...
1 & 2) Most computer users do not really need very good computers... Majority will use computer to surf net, download, play and use simple applications... They do not need really expensive computers and thus if they diy themself, it doesnt really save much... <---- assuming diy uses original software
In fact, it is encouragble to buy the cheapest computer... lol... Reason is very simple... Computer depreciates very fast... And therefore, one should buy the cheapest and make the computer dl 24 hrs daily... You use cheapest computer and force the computer do lots of work... In return, save more money ><
I am not being contradictory. It is just a pride ---> I know tat I m in the wrong but I still insist I m in the right.... Well... u can say male ego if u want... ><
Most people do not really need good computers because computer is not a thing of the past. Almost everyone owns one and our younger generation are taught how to use them at school. expensive computers is no subsitute for a reliable computer. you can get a cheap computer but you will never to expect it to run good for long 24hr a day for weeks and months and years. it will fail earlier than expected and you will have to spend money on a new cheaper PC again. it takes more than a cheap PC to dl while you do other stuff with your other programmes. you should not buy the cheapest and hope to squeeze every ounce from it. it is a very wrong concept.
ego is never an excuse for ignorant