UCL : Lille vs Manchester United - Feb 20th
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Aiya... just read this part and get a better understanding of the game before making all those comments...
The latter complaint is likely to be rapidly dismissed. Under Fifa guidelines Eric Braamhaar, the Dutch referee, was correct in allowing Giggs' goal, scored from a free-kick taken while Tony Sylva, the Lille goalkeeper, was lining up his defensive wall. Such flexible refereeing may be rare in Le Championnat but given that Thierry Henry has twice scored such goals in the Premiership, and once for France, the French game can hardly be unaware of the practice.
Giggs' Goal
With seven minutes remaining and the game goalless Manchester United were awarded a free-kick. As Tony Sylva, the goalkeeper, lined up his defensive wall, Ryan Giggs asked the Dutch referee if he could take a quick kick. Eric Braamhaar agreed. Giggs scored. Sylva was booked amid protests by Lille. The French club then kicked the ball into touch from the kick-off and began to walk off. After several minutes of argument involving match officials, and players and staff of both clubs, play resumed with a United throw-in.
The Free-Kick Law
The referee only needs to blow his whistle if the attacking team ask him to move the wall back. Otherwise, the kick can be taken quickly, without warning. -
manu got off wif a lucky win by cheating, get over it! there's no right or wrong, it's just plain lucky that the referee was on manu side dat night.
for fans who claim such action is right even if it is wrong are kinda tell what kind of fans they r for blindly support of the player's action.
when henry cheated dat goal, i just happy n keep quiet. unlike some of u who post grandfather stories n quote several examples. -
wat grandfather stories? you also happy when Henry cheated dat goal what..Originally posted by 798:manu got off wif a lucky win by cheating, get over it! there's no right or wrong, it's just plain lucky that the referee was on manu side dat night.
for fans who claim such action is right even if it is wrong are kinda tell what kind of fans they r for blindly support of the player's action.
when henry cheated dat goal, i just happy n keep quiet. unlike some of u who post grandfather stories n quote several examples.
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i am happy as arsenal won dat match, even though cheating is wrong. but i dun see making a point to defend my team and make black into white unlike some of the pple here.Originally posted by 4getmenot:wat grandfather stories? you also happy when Henry cheated dat goal what..
just like sg earn dat penalty they dun deserve for dat kayu referee decision, i can see alot of pple protecting n insisting the penalty was well-earned.
there are alot of blind supporters these days. -
if u legalize something, u shouldn't allow anyone to stop it. since its legal. so the rules are contradicting itself this way.Originally posted by Spica:Defending teams that are alert and experienced will usually do that. In case the attacking team is attempting a LEGAL quick free kick. UEFA allows quick free kicks, but they also leave it up to the defending team to send a man to block the attempt. For this match, blame it on Lille for not being alert enough. -
yep chelsea is my life.Originally posted by givemeluck:nope , not my life.
u haven't ans my question , is chelsea ur life ? because it seems that i got something against U when i mentioned chelsea
eh...b4 u post here again....do U KNOW WHY QUICK FREE KICK IS ALLOW ? DO U ? did u read the newpaper on that day ? can u plz read b4 posting here ?
even till this day , i still dont understand WHATS WRONG WITH DESPERATELY WINNING A MATCH.
quick free kicks are allowed, so therefore defending players putting a men infront of the ball should be booked for stopping a quick free kick am i right?
there's nth wrong with being desperate, i'm just asking.. and some people still denies it. -
Hmm, does that mean the defending team should not put up any form of defence against quick free kicks then? It's only a form of defence, there's no guarantee the chap can stop the ball...tat's what defence is all about. If there should be no contradicting rules, why put a goalie to try stop a penalty kick?Originally posted by stellazio:if u legalize something, u shouldn't allow anyone to stop it. since its legal. so the rules are contradicting itself this way. -
well if its legal to take a quick free kick, then it should be illegal to try to stop it right?Originally posted by Spica:Hmm, does that mean the defending team should not put up any form of defence against quick free kicks then? It's only a form of defence, there's no guarantee the chap can stop the ball...tat's what defence is all about. If there should be no contradicting rules, why put a goalie to try stop a penalty kick? -
same logic as my earlier eg - if it's legal to take a penalty kick, why should it be legal to have a goalie to try and stop it? The thing is, attacking teams are awarded certain favourable play such as free kicks and penalties, but it's up to the defending team to put up their own defence - wall for free kicks, and goalie as the only form of defence for penalty kicks. For quick free kicks, the usual form of defence is to put a man in front of the ball while the wall is forming...Originally posted by stellazio:well if its legal to take a quick free kick, then it should be illegal to try to stop it right? -
out of point. do the defender stand infront of the penalty taker just in case he takes a quick penalty? which btw is not allowed.Originally posted by Spica:same logic as my earlier eg - if it's legal to take a penalty kick, why should it be legal to have a goalie to try and stop it? The thing is, attacking teams are awarded certain favourable play such as free kicks and penalties, but it's up to the defending team to put up their own defence - wall for free kicks, and goalie as the only form of defence for penalty kicks. For quick free kicks, the usual form of defence is to put a man in front of the ball while the wall is forming...
so why then should quick free kicks be allowed when people are allowed to block it? and yes this is unlucky of lille because this does not happen in the french league. -
www.dictionary.com for the real definition of the word "cheat"Originally posted by 798:manu got off wif a lucky win by cheating, get over it! there's no right or wrong, it's just plain lucky that the referee was on manu side dat night.
for fans who claim such action is right even if it is wrong are kinda tell what kind of fans they r for blindly support of the player's action.
when henry cheated dat goal, i just happy n keep quiet. unlike some of u who post grandfather stories n quote several examples.
oh yes im also sure thats definately a lucky win.
can u plz quote some example on how ref was on manutd side that day ?
u r even worse then that blueguy , at least he uses 50% of his brain to post .
i really can't find a goal that is valid in UEFA rule book a cheat. i really don't .
its not like saha dives for the awarded freekick .
so 1 guy uses the word "cheat" , another 1 "desperate" , what is next ? -
its ok , i quote 1 of the example from the newpaper .Originally posted by stellazio:yep chelsea is my life.
quick free kicks are allowed, so therefore defending players putting a men infront of the ball should be booked for stopping a quick free kick am i right?
there's nth wrong with being desperate, i'm just asking.. and some people still denies it.
"These are to cut out deliberate delaying tactics , by allowing for quick restarts without letting the offending team to regroup by forming a wall or adopting further TIME-WASTING ploys."
i lazy to type out the rest.
now i think u r more human compared to the number guy hah -
use ur fucking brain please! the referee should have ask for the retake of free-kick since the whistle had not been blow. by calling us non-fans brainless has spoken what u r exactly.Originally posted by givemeluck:www.dictionary.com for the real definition of the word "cheat"
oh yes im also sure thats definately a lucky win.
can u plz quote some example on how ref was on manutd side that day ?
u r even worse then that blueguy , at least he uses 50% of his brain to post .
i really can't find a goal that is valid in UEFA rule book a cheat. i really don't .
its not like saha dives for the awarded freekick .
so 1 guy uses the word "cheat" , another 1 "desperate" , what is next ?
stellario just speak about the facts but u pple just support ur club blindly.
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omfg.....Originally posted by 798:the referee should have ask for the retake of free-kick since the whistle had not been blow.
whistle to be blown ?
" The Free-Kick Law "
"The referee only needs to blow his whistle if the attacking team ask him to move the wall back. Otherwise, the kick can be taken quickly, without warning. "
quoted from i dont know where.
im using my brain. are u ?
plz stop posting abt this if u know nuts abt this!! PLZ .
stop degrading urself further. PLZ. -
wait a min...u dont know anything and u r posting in this thread ?Originally posted by 798:use ur fucking brain please! the referee should have ask for the retake of free-kick since the whistle had not been blow. by calling us non-fans brainless has spoken what u r exactly.
stellario just speak about the facts but u pple just support ur club blindly. -
where is this statement taken to be exact? do tell us!Originally posted by givemeluck:omfg.....
whistle to be blown ?
" The Free-Kick Law "
"The referee only needs to blow his whistle if the attacking team ask him to move the wall back. Otherwise, the kick can be taken quickly, without warning. "
quoted from i dont know where.
im using my brain. are u ?
stop degrading urself further. plz.
i bet it must be a copy n paste... plus edit! see the word 'IF' n the rule never states dat kinda goal is allow? -
quoted from where also dunno, this tell us what kinda fan u r already.
u r just practice selective biasing! if other club like chelsea or arsenal done dat, i bet u will accuse them for cheating as well. -
you still thinks that is not a valid goal ?
even stellazio admits its a valid goal. juz that it is done thru desperation.
The latter complaint is likely to be rapidly dismissed. Under Fifa guidelines Eric Braamhaar, the Dutch referee, was correct in allowing Giggs' goal, scored from a free-kick taken while Tony Sylva, the Lille goalkeeper, was lining up his defensive wall. Such flexible refereeing may be rare in Le Championnat but given that Thierry Henry has twice scored such goals in the Premiership, and once for France, the French game can hardly be unaware of the practice.Originally posted by 798:
see the word 'IF' n the rule never states dat kinda goal is allow? [/b][/quote]
whats ur PSLE score on english ?
[quote]Originally posted by 798:where is this statement taken to be exact? do tell us!
Giggs' Goal
With seven minutes remaining and the game goalless Manchester United were awarded a free-kick. As Tony Sylva, the goalkeeper, lined up his defensive wall, Ryan Giggs asked the Dutch referee if he could take a quick kick. Eric Braamhaar agreed. Giggs scored. Sylva was booked amid protests by Lille. The French club then kicked the ball into touch from the kick-off and began to walk off. After several minutes of argument involving match officials, and players and staff of both clubs, play resumed with a United throw-in.
The Free-Kick Law
The referee only needs to blow his whistle if the attacking team ask him to move the wall back. Otherwise, the kick can be taken quickly, without warning. -
but did i accused them ? did i ?Originally posted by 798:quoted from where also dunno, this tell us what kinda fan u r already.
u r just practice selective biasing! if other club like chelsea or arsenal done dat, i bet u will accuse them for cheating as well.
ITS THAT IM LAZY TO FIND THE SOURCE OF THAT QUOTE JUZ FOR THE SAKE OF ENTERTAINING U
i seen that times and again on soccernet , football365 , newpaper.... TV , espn.
seriously u r making a joke out of urself. stop it -
my england is D7...Originally posted by givemeluck:you still thinks that is not a valid goal ?
even stellazio admits its a valid goal. juz that it is done thru desperation.
The latter complaint is likely to be rapidly dismissed. Under Fifa guidelines Eric Braamhaar, the Dutch referee, was correct in allowing Giggs' goal, scored from a free-kick taken while Tony Sylva, the Lille goalkeeper, was lining up his defensive wall. Such flexible refereeing may be rare in Le Championnat but given that Thierry Henry has twice scored such goals in the Premiership, and once for France, the French game can hardly be unaware of the practice.
Giggs' Goal
With seven minutes remaining and the game goalless Manchester United were awarded a free-kick. As Tony Sylva, the goalkeeper, lined up his defensive wall, Ryan Giggs asked the Dutch referee if he could take a quick kick. Eric Braamhaar agreed. Giggs scored. Sylva was booked amid protests by Lille. The French club then kicked the ball into touch from the kick-off and began to walk off. After several minutes of argument involving match officials, and players and staff of both clubs, play resumed with a United throw-in.
The Free-Kick Law
The referee only needs to blow his whistle if the attacking team ask him to move the wall back. Otherwise, the kick can be taken quickly, without warning.
so i cant read wat u trying to interpret wif chimelogy england.
dun need to be so po-po-ma-ma. by defending a cheater or a despo make u no less than a *BEEP* -
quoted from football365.
"The ref came over and said do you want the whistle, and I said no, I'll take a quick one," Giggs explained to the Manchester Evening News.
http://www.football365.com/story/0,17033,8652_1937750,00.html
http://www.football365.com/story/0,17033,8742_1937494,00.html
seriously , what else u want ? lol -
1st ur reading of english is badOriginally posted by 798:my england is D7... so i cant read wat u trying to interpret wif chimelogy england.
dun need to be so po-po-ma-ma. by defending a cheater or a despo make u no less than a *BEEP*
2nd u dont even know the rules
and u comments on this topic ?
and again u use the word cheat.
u juz cant get the right thing in to ur brain do u ? -
Wooh wooh.. Cool it guys. Stop pointing fingers here and there cos everyone is entitled to their own opinions.
Giggs' goal is allowed and UEFA is not going to make a rematch. If the organisers of the tournament is happy with it den i don't see why we should argue till our faces are red.
In my opinion, it was quick thinking by Giggs. Desperation or not i do not know but I give Lille players credit as they were indeed playing out of their skin after Cabaye's introduction. Also, this is only the 1st leg and United is only leading by a goal, anything can happen in the 2nd leg(Choy!).
So everyone please, dont start flaming with colourful languages(fresh yellow, Cyan Chocolate Blue, etc), insulting and name-calling teams.
Afterall, it is still NEW YEAR! Gong Xi Gong Xi~
Cheers.
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Gong Xi Gong Xi~~!!!
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Wah.. so much kao bei kao bu here ah..