Why do we use Hebrew words
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U need coffee. Teh O for u?Originally posted by M©+square:
I need rest. -
and until that happens, the only indicator is Dec 25, and that's all we have.Originally posted by breytonhartge:lets pray that if the real birth date of Yeshua is known, it will not be commercialized...
If you (and your folks) have the ability to hasten the process, please hurry up. -
hmm brey ah.Originally posted by breytonhartge:i understand where you are at, i used to be there, but somehow something in my brain just changed and I cannot see things the same anymore... the other thing I have is that the world that we live in is not just the physical, but also spiritual. That is what I am contending... could ha sa tan decieved the church in this way?
can't u see the disparity here? When i think of Christmas, the only thing i think about is the birth of our Lord; the Nativity. i think most Christians would subscribe to my view.
but when u think of Christmas, u think of pagan practises and entrails hangng from a tree. and so... u do not celebrate Christmas.. or rather the birth of our Lord.
u see what's going on here?
insight revelation is good and stuff. but shouldn't it always be balanced out with proper discernment?
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somehow, I think brey's thinking that he's got proper discernment alreadyOriginally posted by ben1xy:insight revelation is good and stuff. but shouldn't it always be balanced out with proper discernment?
on the assumption that his entire argument is correct (key word being assumption)..... how practical can it get in the real world (key word being practical)?
It is fine and well, for the folks at Wildbranch to expound the returning to their hebraic roots, and expound they do, using English, how can this be transposed to a real life world where believers can be the uneducated, the simple, the poor, the uncultured? At the end of the day, translation must happen, and in many occasions, merging cultures and practices happen.
...also... I am thinking, when I go down on my kneels and pray to Jesus, the guy in the sky is going to turn around and say...."wrong name, no such person here.".... I am sad.... is my God so petty? I think not.....
or each time when I leave for the airport, my family gathers at the door to pray to Christ and ask for journey mercy for dad, YHWH says... "I won't talk to you unless you talk to be properly and call me by my real name!"
If this is my god, then he is not worthy of my worship.... however, I don't think this is my god..... -
i like how u use the word 'roots'. The root of Christianity is Hebraic. But the root of Hebraic is the Love of God. A love so great that he made us in his image and he sent his only begotten son to die for us. Sometimes simple faith is the best.Originally posted by Chin Eng:It is fine and well, for the folks at Wildbranch to expound the returning to their hebraic roots. -
reminds me of a scene from Kingdom of Heaven, the Orlando Bloom flickOriginally posted by Chin Eng:or each time when I leave for the airport, my family gathers at the door to pray to Christ and ask for journey mercy for dad, YHWH says... "I won't talk to you unless you talk to be properly and call me by my real name!"
If this is my god, then he is not worthy of my worship.... however, I don't think this is my god..... -
I really enjoy Edward Norton's performance..... seems to me he's the only one who embodied the characteristics of God in the movie.Originally posted by ben1xy:reminds me of a scene from Kingdom of Heaven, the Orlando Bloom flick
Sometimes I wonder if in our effort to please God, we end up displeasing him with our petty definition of who God is.....
Micah 6:6-8
With what shall I come before the LORD and bow down before the exalted God? Shall I come before him with burnt offerings, with calves a year old?
Will the LORD be pleased with thousands of rams, with ten thousand rivers of oil? Shall I offer my firstborn for my transgression, the fruit of my body for the sin of my soul?
He has showed you, O man, what is good. And what does the LORD require of you? To act justly and to love mercy and to walk humbly with your God. -
why did God inpire the apostles to write in Greek? Paul said the very words used in writing the Bible is from the Spirit. 1Co 2:13 And these are the things which we say, not in the language of man's wisdom, but in WORDS GIVEN TO US BY THE SPIRIT, judging the things of the spirit by the help of the Spirit. WHAT WORDS? WORDS IN GREEK GOD SPOKE IN BOTH HEBREW AND GREEK TOUNGUE. WHY EMPHASIZE HEBREW WHEN HE EQUALLY SPOKE THROUGH THE APOSTLES IN GREEK AND HEBREW LANGUAGE? WAS PAUL NOT INSPIRED BECAUSE HE WROTE IN GREEK?Originally posted by breytonhartge:If you can, most certainly! That is why many believers are studying hebrew so that they can understand the scriptures in its original language and in the context in which they were written.
Much is lost in translation. Even when you read a book or any writing, it is always best read in its original lanugage because it is impossible to translate it in the exact meaning and emotion and spirit in which it was written. -
oooooooooo...i like thisOriginally posted by ben1xy:i like how u use the word 'roots'. The root of Christianity is Hebraic. But the root of Hebraic is the Love of God. A love so great that he made us in his image and he sent his only begotten son to die for us. Sometimes simple faith is the best. -
errr.. then why did they find the gospel of matthew in hebrew???Originally posted by Jamison:why did God inpire the apostles to write in Greek? Paul said the very words used in writing the Bible is from the Spirit. 1Co 2:13 And these are the things which we say, not in the language of man's wisdom, but in WORDS GIVEN TO US BY THE SPIRIT, judging the things of the spirit by the help of the Spirit. WHAT WORDS? WORDS IN GREEK GOD SPOKE IN BOTH HEBREW AND GREEK TOUNGUE. WHY EMPHASIZE HEBREW WHEN HE EQUALLY SPOKE THROUGH THE APOSTLES IN GREEK AND HEBREW LANGUAGE? WAS PAUL NOT INSPIRED BECAUSE HE WROTE IN GREEK? -
it has been said that the 4 gospels were for 4 target audience. Matthew was meant to be for the Jews.....Originally posted by breytonhartge:errr.. then why did they find the gospel of matthew in hebrew??? -
That does it!Originally posted by Chin Eng:it has been said that the 4 gospels were for 4 target audience. Matthew was meant to be for the Jews.....
Only Matthew is authentic becoz it is written in HEBREW!!!
Greek? BAHHHHHH.......must be counterfeit! -
and so that is uninspired according to our dear friend jamison... ?Originally posted by Chin Eng:it has been said that the 4 gospels were for 4 target audience. Matthew was meant to be for the Jews..... -
you gotta be kidding right???Originally posted by Chin Eng:and until that happens, the only indicator is Dec 25, and that's all we have.
If you (and your folks) have the ability to hasten the process, please hurry up.
it is plainly clear from the bible during the time when Yeshua was born and it was not in the middle of winter.
the date will be known when Yahweh wants it to be known. -
edited...Originally posted by laoda99:That does it!
Only Matthew is authentic becoz it is written in HEBREW!!!
Greek? BAHHHHHH.......must be counterfeit! -
So the date is unknown....Originally posted by breytonhartge:you gotta be kidding right???
it is plainly clear from the bible during the time when Yeshua was born and it was not in the middle of winter.
the date will be know when Yahweh wants it to be known.
and so now what?
When can the date be known so that we can commercialize it? -
up to you, let Yahweh tell you or convict you one way or another... shalom.Originally posted by laoda99:So the date is unknown....
and so now what?
When can the date be known so that we can commercialize it? -
did I say it is uninspired??????Originally posted by breytonhartge:and so that is uninspired according to our dear friend jamison... ?
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May Allah's Peace upon u!!!!!Originally posted by breytonhartge:up to you, let Yahweh tell you or convict you one way or another... shalom. -
what's there to kid??? I did not say DIVINE indicator. I said indicator, I am even prepared to agree that the date is not even exact, but that's all we have. As far as evangelism is concern, that's a good time to bring people to God, surely you cannot deny that there are people coming to know God during these days?Originally posted by breytonhartge:you gotta be kidding right???
it is plainly clear from the bible during the time when Yeshua was born and it was not in the middle of winter.
the date will be known when Yahweh wants it to be known.
commercialization? you think Jewish festivals are not commercialized? -
Of coz not. We Jews practice the 613 laws sternly, how can we be commercialized?Originally posted by Chin Eng:what's there to kid??? I did not say DIVINE indicator. I said indicator, I am even prepared to agree that the date is not even exact, but that's all we have. As far as evangelism is concern, that's a good time to bring people to God, surely you cannot deny that there are people coming to know God during these days?
commercialization? you think Jewish festivals are not commercialized? -
did I say you?????Originally posted by Chin Eng:did I say it is uninspired?????? -
nah don't need it I'll return it to you...Originally posted by laoda99:May Allah's Peace upon u!!!!!
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The whole picture look like this:
Your answer to ME:Originally posted by Chin Eng:it has been said that the 4 gospels were for 4 target audience. Matthew was meant to be for the Jews.....
and so that is uninspired according to our dear friend jamison... ?
Your respond should be to jamison. You need to reply to the CORRECT person.