loving love or person?
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double posting
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IC..Originally posted by despondent:brey i tink wad he meant was he is both loving love n person...if tats the case, i realli wonder how tats possible...
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I suppose if we confuse lust for love and cannot separate the two, then problems arise. Most people think lust equals love when one has little to do with the other. When one "feels" in love, it is probably more lust than anything, so when the lust has been consumed, there is nothing left to that relationship.Originally posted by despondent:love counsellors will agree tat couples stay married until they die for the simple reason tat they love their partners cos they chose to do so n nt cos they feel loved by their spouse n hence stay in the marriage...u may argue tat they stay married cos of their children...well tats true but again its based on a choice...they choose to stay married cos they love their children...n they love their children nt based on feelings but by choice...tink of how rebellious children nowadays can be, yet most parents stil love their own...
nw tat is wad i call true love...
Love in a relationship is a commitment made between 2 people, that no matter what happens, they will choose to remain faithful and supportive to each other and stick it out, through good and bad times. They choose to treasure each other as real people, not just sexual objects or for what one can gain from the relationship. Sure there is chemistry and physicality in this relationship, but it extends beyond physical pleasures and feelings of being in love alone. -
Then homosexuality is ok too.Originally posted by Yaffa:Love in a relationship is a commitment made between 2 people, that no matter what happens, they will choose to remain faithful and supportive to each other and stick it out, through good and bad times. They choose to treasure each other as real people, not just sexual objects or for what one can gain from the relationship. Sure there is chemistry and physicality in this relationship, but it extends beyond physical pleasures and feelings of being in love alone.
You can have *all* of the above even as homosexuals. -
we all know that what Yaffa posted is in the context of the Laws and ways of Hashem.Originally posted by Icemoon:Then homosexuality is ok too.
You can have *all* of the above even as homosexuals. -
I dunno .. never follow the discussion.Originally posted by breytonhartge:we all know that what Yaffa posted is in the context of the Laws and ways of Hashem.
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smack!Originally posted by Icemoon:I dunno .. never follow the discussion. -
to bring tis topic closer to the bible, God is someone who demonstrates loving person perfectly...tink of tis: if God is someone who loves love, we as humans wil all burn in hell...y would a God who loves love wanna love ppl who constantly disobey Him n act in rebillion against Him? y would He sent His son whom he loves to die for us? y love humans who dun deserve to be loved by Him? so to answer the qn on whether loving love is correct, lets look at the One who created us in His image...is God one who loves love? so we can see tat God who created everything in its original form did nt create man to love love...He created man to love others...cos He is also like tat...love is beautiful cos it involves loving those who curse u, loving those who may nt deserve it...
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God IS loveOriginally posted by despondent:to bring tis topic closer to the bible, God is someone who demonstrates loving person perfectly...tink of tis: if God is someone who loves love, we as humans wil all burn in hell...y would a God who loves love wanna love ppl who constantly disobey Him n act in rebillion against Him? y would He sent His son whom he loves to die for us? y love humans who dun deserve to be loved by Him? so to answer the qn on whether loving love is correct, lets look at the One who created us in His image...is God one who loves love? so we can see tat God who created everything in its original form did nt create man to love love...He created man to love others...cos He is also like tat...love is beautiful cos it involves loving those who curse u, loving those who may nt deserve it...
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ah, but i juz came across sth...heres a tough one....the bible says tat God is love n tat we love him cos he 1st loved us...doesnt tat seem to mean tat christians r in love wif love??? brey n yaffa, maybe u would like to comment on tis? i will post my comments soon...
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i think that love can be nurtured!
y think so hard!
Relaxed! -
iam nt saying tat love cannot be nurtured...i am saying tat y dun nurture it 1st b4 entering a r/s? too many ppl r entering a r/s 1st then try to nurture...then wad if love fails to nurture? breakup? who can guarantee 100% tat love can be nurtured? n if u r nt loving love, y rush into a r/s?
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1 more thing: its cos ppl rlike sakuraflower...y tink so much...relaxed...tats y so many failed r/s everywhere...dun tink, juz go by wad ur heart tells u...dun need to love the other person, the other person love u can alredi...
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if you talk about human love, you can never be 100% certain, hence it is a true blessing to us that Hashem is unchanging in His love toward us.Originally posted by despondent:iam nt saying tat love cannot be nurtured...i am saying tat y dun nurture it 1st b4 entering a r/s? too many ppl r entering a r/s 1st then try to nurture...then wad if love fails to nurture? breakup? who can guarantee 100% tat love can be nurtured? n if u r nt loving love, y rush into a r/s?
Sometimes, you have to do a bit of both, ie, you have to enter a relationship to nurture the love and the relationship, you never know if you don't give it a go. There is a saying.... It is better to love and have lost, than never to have loved at all.
Shabbat Shalom!