ecumenism vs biblical separation
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protestants can be divided into tis 2 categories...most protestants though r ecumenical...however, there r some namely the reformers who practise the doctrine of biblical separation...juz how biblical is tis doctrine of separation? air ur views here...
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hi there could the TS elaborate a bit more... and give back ground info for people who are new to this? Thanks.
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i cun realli explain biblical separation well...but if u r catholic or evangelical, u will condemn tis doctrine...its basically saying tat there shld be separation btw christians as we have differences in doctrines...nt toking abt fundamentals but the deeper doctrinal issues...issues like, tribulation, the supernatural gifts, calvinism vs armenianism etc...
so these christians r saying tat there shld nt be spiritual fellowship among christians of diff. doctrines...tis does nt mean nt making frends wif other christians...it means tat if there was an event like the festival of praise...they shld nt take part as such events involve christians all ard the country...basically, they hold on to tis belief cos they believe they shld hold fast to wad they have been tot n nt to be swayed by other doctrines...
ecumenism i am toking abt is like the festival of praise...i am nt toking abt diff. religions coming tgr to pray to their diff. gods...(there was 1 such case after the tsunami happened) meaning to say tat let there be no denomination barrier but casting aside our differences, we focus on the common goal...which is to win the lost n be in spiritual unity....
so u can see tat these 2 beliefs dun see eye-to-eye...christians who practise biblical separation condemn ecumenism saying tat ecumenism will onli lead more n more christians away from the truth... -
I don't know too much about these topics, though what I read from the Bible says that our God is a jealous God and will not tolerate any other Gods besides Him. So if we join hands with everyone of different beliefs and gods, I'm not sure if He will be pleased with that since it involves other gods. What do you think?Originally posted by despondent:protestants can be divided into tis 2 categories...most protestants though r ecumenical...however, there r some namely the reformers who practise the doctrine of biblical separation...juz how biblical is tis doctrine of separation? air ur views here... -
biblical separation has 2 perspectives. the 1st one is tat we as christians shld separate ourselves from other religions...by tis it means tat we shld nt be in any sort of spiritual unity wif these religions. so if theres an event inviting all religions to come tgr to pray, christaisn shld nt be involved...tis stand is taken by many christians...the 2nd one is even stricter...its biblical separation among fellow christians..basically it means tat denominations shld nt be in spiritual unity wif other denominations...eg. for the festival of praise where christians from all denominations gather tgr to praise n worship God, these christaisn who believe in tis form of biblical separation takes the stand tat they shld nt be involved in it. so its like saying tat, i am presbyterian, u r anglican. we can be frends but i wun take part in any mass christian events u organise since we have a diff. set of doctrine n spiritual flow...
biblical separation is nt saying tat we cun make frends wif ppl from other religions or denominations, it juz means dun be in spiritual unity wif such ppl...i personally believe tat there shld be biblical separation btw christians n other religions but i dun agree tat biblical separation shld be praxctised among christians of diff. denominations...after all, we all worship the same God... -
I think u r posting a repeated thread.....somemore in the wrong forum....Originally posted by despondent:biblical separation has 2 perspectives. the 1st one is tat we as christians shld separate ourselves from other religions...by tis it means tat we shld nt be in any sort of spiritual unity wif these religions. so if theres an event inviting all religions to come tgr to pray, christaisn shld nt be involved...tis stand is taken by many christians...the 2nd one is even stricter...its biblical separation among fellow christians..basically it means tat denominations shld nt be in spiritual unity wif other denominations...eg. for the festival of praise where christians from all denominations gather tgr to praise n worship God, these christaisn who believe in tis form of biblical separation takes the stand tat they shld nt be involved in it. so its like saying tat, i am presbyterian, u r anglican. we can be frends but i wun take part in any mass christian events u organise since we have a diff. set of doctrine n spiritual flow...
biblical separation is nt saying tat we cun make frends wif ppl from other religions or denominations, it juz means dun be in spiritual unity wif such ppl...i personally believe tat there shld be biblical separation btw christians n other religions but i dun agree tat biblical separation shld be praxctised among christians of diff. denominations...after all, we all worship the same God... -
welcome back... laoda.. how are you? Preparations for the big day going smoothly??Originally posted by laoda99:I think u r posting a repeated thread.....somemore in the wrong forum....
Repeated thread, maybe, but the outcome may be different...
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yes i knew it was a repeated thread... it was deliberate, juz like wad brey said, juz wanted to see the response n besides tis forum is called deeper truths...ecumenism n biblical separation can be seen as deeper truths as they r nt fundamental doctrines...n nt many christians noe of such things...
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I think all believers are on a different level spiritually depending on their spiritual growth and where they are at that moment. If we are all truly worshipping the same God, then of course we should have no qualms coming together for fellowship, prayer and other activities.Originally posted by despondent:...biblical separation is nt saying tat we cun make frends wif ppl from other religions or denominations, it juz means dun be in spiritual unity wif such ppl...i personally believe tat there shld be biblical separation btw christians n other religions but i dun agree tat biblical separation shld be praxctised among christians of diff. denominations...after all, we all worship the same God...
But Christianity is now so warped that I am not too sure we are all truly worshipping the same God... the God we worship is the God of Israel, He is who we have been reconciled to through Yeshua. However, I don't think this is being preached accurately and many just worship Yeshua in whatever way they please, some even just idolize Him. In these cases, I'm not sure we can say we are then worshipping the same God.
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ok...so can i have a show of votes? who amongst us here r for ecumenism n who r for biblical separation among christians?
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Cannot idolize Yeshua?Originally posted by Yaffa:However, I don't think this is being preached accurately and many just worship Yeshua in whatever way they please, some even just idolize Him. In these cases, I'm not sure we can say we are then worshipping the same God.
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You know how some people make a statue of Him and "pray" to Him, burning candles and offering flowers? That's what I meant by idolizing Him. That cannot be counted as true worship as we are commanded not to learn the way of the heathen in the worshipping of their gods.Originally posted by Icemoon:Cannot idolize Yeshua?
Then who can be idolized? -
yes yes, ,,... even saw people offer pacifier, milk bottle, toys before also ...Originally posted by Yaffa:You know how some people make a statue of Him and "pray" to Him, burning candles and offering flowers? That's what I meant by idolizing Him. That cannot be counted as true worship as we are commanded not to learn the way of the heathen in the worshipping of their gods. -
Originally posted by vince69:yes yes, ,,... even saw people offer pacifier, milk bottle, toys before also ...
really where? have never seen that before... -
so how... you got the answer you looking for?Originally posted by despondent:ok...so can i have a show of votes? who amongst us here r for ecumenism n who r for biblical separation among christians? -
Cebu island, the alter with the statue of the Blessed Virgin and Baby Jesus, its a few years back, if i not remember wrong, its being set up infront of their City Hall building.Originally posted by breytonhartge: really where? have never seen that before...
btw, they also have put there, cosmetics, flowers...etc also. -
*faintz....*Originally posted by vince69:Cebu island, the alter with the statue of the Blessed Virgin and Baby Jesus, its a few years back, if i not remember wrong, its being set up infront of their City Hall building.
btw, they also have put there, cosmetics, flowers...etc also. -
Bibical separation to the extent that yes, we follow the commandments of Yahweh, but not in the true definition of the term. But definitely not for ecumenism...Originally posted by despondent:ok...so can i have a show of votes? who amongst us here r for ecumenism n who r for biblical separation among christians?