Kefa (Peter's) vision about the sheet and the food...
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No, not the theology of glory nor the cross, obviously... both are probably too extreme in their interpretations.Originally posted by Icemoon:I suspect you are not.
It sounds suspiciously like the theology of glory which Luther was criticising.
But I still take the stand that sanctification should follow salvation, if not, backslidation will occur...
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The theology of cross came from the Apostle Paul.Originally posted by Yaffa:No, not the theology of glory nor the cross, obviously... both are probably too extreme in their interpretations.
But I still take the stand that sanctification should follow salvation, if not, backslidation will occur...
Sanctification has always been part of the classical protestant salvation process. How that sanctificaition takes place is the issue. -
Paul spoke about the cross but he certainly didn't make it into some theology, poor chap, always so misunderstood.Originally posted by Icemoon:The theology of cross came from the Apostle Paul.
Sanctification has always been part of the classical protestant salvation process. How that sanctificaition takes place is the issue.
We are sanctified through the truth, which is the Word of God. I'm not sure what you mean by this being an issue, maybe due to some more theologies? -
Theology is just a nice name for a framework to understand God. Paul wrote about salvation by faith through grace; they are part of theology, except he didn't say as such.Originally posted by Yaffa:Paul spoke about the cross but he certainly didn't make it into some theology, poor chap, always so misunderstood.
We are sanctified through the truth, which is the Word of God. I'm not sure what you mean by this being an issue, maybe due to some more theologies?
Sanctification is more than that. Which is why we need to have theology right? To elaborate and to educate what is sanctification. -
I'm sure even you are dealing with theology when you talk about the nature of Christ.
Christology that is, part of systematic theology.
And when you are talking about salvation, it will be soteriology. -
Christians are sanctifed by the Holy Spirit.Originally posted by Yaffa:We are sanctified through the truth, which is the Word of God. I'm not sure what you mean by this being an issue, maybe due to some more theologies? 
Romand 15 (NIV):
16to be a minister of Christ Jesus to the Gentiles with the priestly duty of proclaiming the gospel of God, so that the Gentiles might become an offering acceptable to God, sanctified by the Holy Spirit. -
christians are sanctified by the Rauch Hakkodesh, but then the Ruach will lead them back to the word, which will then sanctify them in truth.
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But cannot be right?Originally posted by breytonhartge:christians are sanctified by the Rauch Hakkodesh, but then the Ruach will lead them back to the word, which will then sanctify them in truth.
36000 denominations .. which ones have the Ruach? -
It is already stated in the Holy Scriptures and the Tanakh that only a remenant are called, so those who are called, will have the Ruach.Originally posted by Icemoon:But cannot be right?
36000 denominations .. which ones have the Ruach? -
Originally posted by breytonhartge:
Fully agree with this interpretation.
actually that vision was not in relation to food, Kefa himself asked the question as to why.. it is understood by Kefa, that certain foods are definitely not for eating, they are biblically unclean, Hashem is the same yesterday, today and forever... so how can Hashem change in His requirements that we can eat unclean food?
If you continue to read the chapter, the spirit spoke to him saying "What Yahweh has cleansed, you must not call common."
In those days, the Jewish people separated themselves from the goyim, whom they considered common... and even in verse 19 Kefa still wondered about the vision... and while Kefa was still thinking about this... the Rauch spoke to him again saying that there were three men looking for Kefa and that Kefa was to go with them, doubting nothing... these three were romans, part of the goyim... and we find out from Kefa that it is unlawful for Jews to keep company with or to go to one of another nation.
Verse 28-29 is the crux which many in the modern day church miss in their eagerness to fashion an excuse to eat anything they like...
Kefa says and I quote
"Then he said to them, "You know how unlawful it is for a Jewish man to keep company with or go to one of another nation. [b]But Yahweh has shown me that I should not call any man common or unclean. Therefore I cam without objection as soon as I was sent for....
highlight mine... Here Kefa gives the real meaning of the vision plain for all to see, the vision was talking about people of other races and not food. [/b] -
what is this? Biblical election?Originally posted by breytonhartge:It is already stated in the Holy Scriptures and the Tanakh that only a remenant are called, so those who are called, will have the Ruach. -
no. it is just stated in the Holy Scriptures that only a remanant will be called as to who the remanant is Hashem knows.Originally posted by Icemoon:what is this? Biblical election? -
wah .. imagine following His ways and realising you are not the one!Originally posted by breytonhartge:no. it is just stated in the Holy Scriptures that only a remanant will be called as to who the remanant is Hashem knows. 
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correct, that iswhy all of us are to be sure of what the bible says about our salvation and how we should live our lives according to Hashem's ways and purposes.Originally posted by Icemoon:wah .. imagine following His ways and realising you are not the one! -
Originally posted by M©+square:Fully agree with this interpretation.
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Count my vote in too!!Originally posted by Icemoon:what is this? Biblical election? -
John 17:17Originally posted by breytonhartge:christians are sanctified by the Rauch Hakkodesh, but then the Ruach will lead them back to the word, which will then sanctify them in truth.
"Sanctify them through thy truth,: thy word is truth"
Eph 5:26 (About the church)
"That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word"
Heb 13:12
"Wherefore Jesus also, that he might sanctify the people with his own blood.."