O'Neill is the Extra Special One
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why issit when a club screw up, both sides, players and manager take the blame and when a club do well only the manager takes the credit??Originally posted by BillyBong:The players deserve little credit actually. Had they been determined to stop the rot they would have done so even under David O'Leary. The fact that he failed to improve Villa's position points to a lack of motivation skills and the player's own low morale and lack of unity.
O'Neill has been known as an excellent motivator and his 'pied piper' acolyte is not unjustified. I've always held him in high regard and Villa made the best buy when they signed him.
When a club screws up, both sides - players and coach - share the blame. The coach is of course the convenient target since sacking one person is easier than sacking a starting XI.
the players deserves credit as well, there's got to be quality in the players to do well or else even the best motivator can't do anything if there's no quality in the team at all. -
no what, i see alot of the big 4 plaeyrs getting praised. its just that villa was so horrible last season with almost the same batch of players, martin o neill is getting praised firsthand. u see how many players come out to say how they wanted to leave under o leary last season?why so big difference now??Originally posted by The man who was death:why issit when a club screw up, both sides, players and manager take the blame and when a club do well only the manager takes the credit??
the players deserves credit as well, there's got to be quality in the players to do well or else even the best motivator can't do anything if there's no quality in the team at all. -
i know the big difference, i know o'neill deserves most of the credit but it seems to be overshadowing what the players have done too. there was also a lot of injuries last season, this has to be taken into account too.Originally posted by stellazio:no what, i see alot of the big 4 plaeyrs getting praised. its just that villa was so horrible last season with almost the same batch of players, martin o neill is getting praised firsthand. u see how many players come out to say how they wanted to leave under o leary last season?why so big difference now??
i feel angel deserves more praise than he has right now, he's finally getting back to the old angel three years ago, his link up play is excellent. -
geneerally the press are biased.Originally posted by The man who was death:i know the big difference, i know o'neill deserves most of the credit but it seems to be overshadowing what the players have done too. there was also a lot of injuries last season, this has to be taken into account too.
i feel angel deserves more praise than he has right now, he's finally getting back to the old angel three years ago, his link up play is excellent.
and maybe its not martin's way to praise his players publicily. -
You are totally correct when you said "he's finally getting back to the old angel three years ago"... This is precisely what O'neill has brought to the club, the fact that he can make not just 1, not just 2 but a number of players who have been there for the past few years suddenly play to their potential.Originally posted by The man who was death:i know the big difference, i know o'neill deserves most of the credit but it seems to be overshadowing what the players have done too. there was also a lot of injuries last season, this has to be taken into account too.
i feel angel deserves more praise than he has right now, he's finally getting back to the old angel three years ago, his link up play is excellent.
I belief a lot of effort was put into it to turn the club around. And for this, he deserve the most credit. But of course, the club on the whole will benefit the most.