Nothing special about Mourinho, says Wenger
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Frenchman says it takes five years to prove worth Champions League trophy does not make you 'great'
Arsène Wenger last night stoked the simmering relationship between Arsenal and Chelsea by reminding Jose Mourinho that winning the Champions League with Porto in 2004 does not to make him a "great" manager. The London rivals meet in Sunday's Carling Cup final at the Millennium Stadium and Wenger has responded to Mourinho's jibe about Arsenal's record in Europe's elite club competition by launching a thinly veiled attack on the Portuguese.
"Plenty of managers have won the Champions League who will not be considered great managers," he said. "What is important is that you look at their careers in 10, 15 or 20 years. What kind of quality have you brought through in your work and on how consistent a level have you done it? If you would like to compare every manager you give each one the same amount of resources and say: 'you have that for five years'. After five years you see who has done the most." -
everytime b4 'vs each other must suan here suan there,
knn gt xtra pts gain ar?
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Mourinho once said...
"I think he is one of these people who is a voyeur. He likes to watch other people. There are some guys who, when they are at home, have a big telescope to see what happens in other families. He speaks, speaks, speaks about Chelsea." - on Arsène Wenger
Wenger threaten to sue him... then he apologise... -
Good for ratings wat.. kekekeke..Originally posted by a-Lost-9uY:everytime b4 'vs each other must suan here suan there,
knn gt xtra pts gain ar? 
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Create publicity for Arsenal.
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they never miss an opportunity to take a swipe at each other
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indirectly suan benitez too?
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indirectly suan benitez too?
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i think u r a voyeur too. every topics u created speak negatively about chelsea too.Originally posted by zocoss:Mourinho once said...
"I think he is one of these people who is a voyeur. He likes to watch other people. There are some guys who, when they are at home, have a big telescope to see what happens in other families. He speaks, speaks, speaks about Chelsea." - on Arsène Wenger
Wenger threaten to sue him... then he apologise... -
WENGER IN NEW SWIPE AT JOSE
ARSENE WENGER has stepped up his war of words with Jose Mourinho as Arsenal prepare to face Chelsea in Sunday's Carling Cup Final.
The Gunners manager launched a thinly-veiled attack on his Stamford Bridge counterpart, as he accused some managers of "jumping on the table" about their achievements.
And he claimed some French third division bosses could be just as good as the Blues chief.
Mourinho took a pot-shot at his bitter rival this week for never having won the Champions League.
But in a clear dig at the huge amount of cash Mourinho has spent during his Stamford Bridge reign, Wenger last night claimed the only way of assessing managerial greatness would be to give bosses the same resources and judge them over five years. -
Originally posted by zocoss:
Someone jealous,cos no have $$$$$$$
[b]WENGER IN NEW SWIPE AT JOSE
ARSENE WENGER has stepped up his war of words with Jose Mourinho as Arsenal prepare to face Chelsea in Sunday's Carling Cup Final.
The Gunners manager launched a thinly-veiled attack on his Stamford Bridge counterpart, as he accused some managers of "jumping on the table" about their achievements.
And he claimed some French third division bosses could be just as good as the Blues chief.
Mourinho took a pot-shot at his bitter rival this week for never having won the Champions League.
But in a clear dig at the huge amount of cash Mourinho has spent during his Stamford Bridge reign, Wenger last night claimed the only way of assessing managerial greatness would be to give bosses the same resources and judge them over five years.
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Wah... you come here to disturb me ah... If i am not wrong, this should be my first ever reply to you... At least what i posted was reported and to be true too. Unlike some, creating stories from their own little minds... at the very least i am still aware of the laws of the game or try to learn about it unlike some people who are totally ignorant of it and when pointed out to them continue to embarrass themselves by making silly statements...Originally posted by 798:i think u r a voyeur too. every topics u created speak negatively about chelsea too.
I recall not too long ago there was this guy in Sports who said you don't need to get the ball across the opponent's half first when you start a game... and it made him looked so silly. But if you must know... This is also very much in the same class as that...
In future whenever you post silly things again... we all here can remind you of your very own "free-kick rule" how come so different from Uefa's free-kick rule ah?
If your intend is to flame me, i suggest you pick on someone you can handle... Cos unlike in Sports, flaming is not encourage here and I reserve the right not reply to people who has no credibility anymore... Errr... how do you take a free-kick ah? This could be a punch-line for you in future from all the fun loving guys you go around "beating up"...
Don't come here if you only want to flame people... But if you want to post proper discussion, you are more than welcome. -
those fellas fun to watch
but then, wenger has a point.. Chelsea has looked very ordinary once a few key players were injured.. great managers have ways of overcoming these things.. but Mourinho has been shown the vulnerabilities...
despite Abramovich's chequebook, he was unable to do anything much..
saying that, his is an unenviable position.. no matter what he does, he'll be labelled as one who bought the success...
i wonder.. what if Abramovich leaves? Chelsea may go the way of Leeds... -
cant help but think... most of ur topics are directed at other clubs esp chelsea, i dun see you taking a dig on ur beloved manu. please be fair to others n stop practice favourism.Originally posted by zocoss:Wah... you come here to disturb me ah... If i am not wrong, this should be my first ever reply to you... At least what i posted was reported and to be true too. Unlike some, creating stories from their own little minds... at the very least i am still aware of the laws of the game or try to learn about it unlike some people who are totally ignorant of it and when pointed out to them continue to embarrass themselves by making silly statements...
I recall not too long ago there was this guy in Sports who said you don't need to get the ball across the opponent's half first when you start a game... and it made him looked so silly. But if you must know... This is also very much in the same class as that...
In future whenever you post silly things again... we all here can remind you of your very own "free-kick rule" how come so different from Uefa's free-kick rule ah?
If your intend is to flame me, i suggest you pick on someone you can handle... Cos unlike in Sports, flaming is not encourage here and I reserve the right not reply to people who has no credibility anymore... Errr... how do you take a free-kick ah? This could be a punch-line for you in future from all the fun loving guys you go around "beating up"...
Don't come here if you only want to flame people... But if you want to post proper discussion, you are more than welcome.
there is chelsea forum, liverpool forum or arsenal forum if you want to post news there. stop being a chicken n hiding here. -
lmao. seriously he claimed he is a soccer fan and he know nuts abt the rules.Originally posted by zocoss:Wah... you come here to disturb me ah... If i am not wrong, this should be my first ever reply to you... At least what i posted was reported and to be true too. Unlike some, creating stories from their own little minds... at the very least i am still aware of the laws of the game or try to learn about it unlike some people who are totally ignorant of it and when pointed out to them continue to embarrass themselves by making silly statements...
I recall not too long ago there was this guy in Sports who said you don't need to get the ball across the opponent's half first when you start a game... and it made him looked so silly. But if you must know... This is also very much in the same class as that...
In future whenever you post silly things again... we all here can remind you of your very own "free-kick rule" how come so different from Uefa's free-kick rule ah?
If your intend is to flame me, i suggest you pick on someone you can handle... Cos unlike in Sports, flaming is not encourage here and I reserve the right not reply to people who has no credibility anymore... Errr... how do you take a free-kick ah? This could be a punch-line for you in future from all the fun loving guys you go around "beating up"...
Don't come here if you only want to flame people... But if you want to post proper discussion, you are more than welcome.
anyway....i simply like this man haha
"I recall not too long ago there was this guy in Sports who said you don't need to get the ball across the opponent's half first when you start a game" -
Aiyo, i tired to talk to you, but you make me laugh sometimes... You ask yourself... if they are not making the news then no one can create any news on them right? Like i have said earlier, i only post news that were publish unlike some people who are so creative as we see in Sports coming up with their own titles, some even have foul language on them... But of course they don't dare to use their real account so... Create clones lah. (i am not implying its you ah, so don't anyhow assume)Originally posted by 798:cant help but think... most of ur topics are directed at other clubs esp chelsea, i dun see you taking a dig on ur beloved manu. please be fair to others n stop practice favourism.
there is chelsea forum, liverpool forum or arsenal forum if you want to post news there. stop being a chicken n hiding here.
As to your take on my beloved... I only have one at the moment leh and it not man u... If you must know, i already have very little time and i post news on any or every team/clubs that is worth the thread... there is no need for favouritism... Anyone can post whatever they want, it don't necessary have to always come from me right... Anyway, don't you know there is already someone doing that job very well? Yes, our friendly neighbourhood blue guy... isn't he doing a great job already? So why do i need to double it?
And I where got hide... you can find me here every other day just like you have found me right now isn't it? and if you can recall the last time i posted in Sports you and that blue guy kpkb remember? Like that i where dare to go there... i don't like to create trouble leh, you can see its not my style i never post in those clones created senseless threads... So if i go Pool forum even worst right... You never invite me wait i post there you delete my post how? waste my time right...
Hey anyway, i wanted to ask you... how come you have your own "free-kick rule" ah ?
And how come its so different from Uefa's free-kick rule? -
pls head to the sports forum if anyone wants personal attacks. discuss soccer.
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wenger always liddat 1 la... mouth big big 1...
but den mourinho oso head too big already -
x2Originally posted by anhydrouscoppersulphate:pls head to the sports forum if anyone wants personal attacks. discuss
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trying to mock at me rite? mr smart alec?Originally posted by zocoss:Aiyo, i tired to talk to you, but you make me laugh sometimes... You ask yourself... if they are not making the news then no one can create any news on them right? Like i have said earlier, i only post news that were publish unlike some people who are so creative as we see in Sports coming up with their own titles, some even have foul language on them... But of course they don't dare to use their real account so... Create clones lah. (i am not implying its you ah, so don't anyhow assume)
As to your take on my beloved... I only have one at the moment leh and it not man u... If you must know, i already have very little time and i post news on any or every team/clubs that is worth the thread... there is no need for favouritism... Anyone can post whatever they want, it don't necessary have to always come from me right... Anyway, don't you know there is already someone doing that job very well? Yes, our friendly neighbourhood blue guy... isn't he doing a great job already? So why do i need to double it?
And I where got hide... you can find me here every other day just like you have found me right now isn't it? and if you can recall the last time i posted in Sports you and that blue guy kpkb remember? Like that i where dare to go there... i don't like to create trouble leh, you can see its not my style i never post in those clones created senseless threads... So if i go Pool forum even worst right... You never invite me wait i post there you delete my post how? waste my time right...
Hey anyway, i wanted to ask you... how come you have your own "free-kick rule" ah ?
And how come its so different from Uefa's free-kick rule?
for u as a mod who calling names have shown u r such a joke.
YNWA welcome everyone, dat include u too, even if negative topics are welcome if they do have a point. unlike u pple who rebuke non-fans who try to reason out here or in manu forum.
the reason why the ABU fans not coming here are becos u pple handle things immature way that's why they post in sport forum. -
hahahaha!Originally posted by givemeluck:lmao. seriously he claimed he is a soccer fan and he know nuts abt the rules.
anyway....i simply like this man haha
"I recall not too long ago there was this guy in Sports who said you don't need to get the ball across the opponent's half first when you start a game" dat guy zocoss mentioned is a blind manu supporter by the name of suckthumb.com
http://www.sgforums.com/?action=thread_display&thread_id=224777
becos of his foolish remarks he is hiding himself for knowing nuts of soccer. -
Mock at you? why do you look at it like that? Why are you so defensive? The thing is since you took a stand on it and have not admitted otherwise, I was only checking if your position has changed...Originally posted by 798:trying to mock at me rite? mr smart alec?
for u as a mod who calling names have shown u r such a joke.
YNWA welcome everyone, dat include u too, even if negative topics are welcome if they do have a point. unlike u pple who rebuke non-fans who try to reason out here or in manu forum.
the reason why the ABU fans not coming here are becos u pple handle things immature way that's why they post in sport forum.
Thank you for the invitation, i will drop by when i have a chance. I won't post anything negative unless it is publish to be true. Nevertheless, i welcome different views or anyone who so wishes to challenge it.
Others has been here and to the man u forum and they have got a very balance and moderate views and everyone is just there for a simple discussion. The rebuking you experience at the man u forum was because, to begin with... your point was wrong, your statements were wrong. Your intentions... you have to be honest, if you were only out to reason as you claim with the people over there then you should also be open to reasons by others as well, wouldn't you think so?
If your remarks or statements were right, you won't have anyone challenging them.
The fact of the matter is you got it wrong, others over there pointed out to you like what a proper forum is all about but your replys were not friendly at all. And when they have proved to you that you have got it wrong, unlike most people who would accept it and move on, you still claim otherwise... Is this really called reasoning or unreasonable?
Ok names calling... if you were to take the trouble to look up this thread again you will notice i didn't once use a unpleasant name on you... i don't think i even called you a name for that matter. But if you were to take a look at your own posts here... you may notice that every of your reply seem to have a name for me... If i was any smaller, i will most likely also have a name or 2 for you too then it probably will not end. But I know you have a history of doing so... So i won't take it too serious. But who do you think look more like a joke here?
As to your last sentence... I really don't know where you get your idea that "reason why the ABU fans not coming here are becos u pple handle things immature way that's why they post in sport forum."
You just go and take a look at Sports forum today... Go and take a long hard look at it. Its in a mess. It didn't use to be like that before, clones springing out almost everyday with senseless and unsubstantiated threads/news... Names calling are almost a everyday thing over there now... sometimes you will also get foul language throwing around at each other. Are these what you call mature stuff? Because if these are your kind of "mature stuff" i am more than happy to give it a pass and stick to proper news which makes more sense in the long run...
And lastly, before you laugh at that guy because he is still quite new in here and didn't know who i was referring to, (full marks to you for taking the trouble to find that thread out again) you should also pause for a moment and take a look at yourself.
Your own "free-kick rule" remember? Different from Uefa's free-kick rule also... Do you see a similarity to it?