Terry must go, insists Poll
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Originally posted by sand king:No, terry and Stevie g should not be captain...
let england ace, Richardson be the captain
W Brown also can loh?
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Ya, the ace is a genius at running the ball at defenders.Originally posted by sand king:No, terry and Stevie g should not be captain...
let england ace, Richardson be the captain
Cheers.
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he aint no england ace.Originally posted by turbo_drift:
W Brown also can loh?
Richardson from Sunderland be England's ace -
Sunderland made a good buy.Originally posted by CKeer:Ya, the ace is a genius at running the ball at defenders.
Cheers.
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Originally posted by sand king:he aint no england ace.
Richardson from Sunderland be England's ace -
sian, ive been cracking my head on building my Fantasy Premire League teamOriginally posted by turbo_drift:
Anyone chose richardson?? -
nope.. u chose him loh..Originally posted by sand king:sian, ive been cracking my head on building my Fantasy Premire League team
Anyone chose richardson?? -
At least Richardson is better than Kieren Lee
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i chose him just now as sub, but i thought... NAH!Originally posted by turbo_drift:nope.. u chose him loh.. -
Whoa from John Terry we come to Richardson
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Originally posted by lpx88:Whoa from John Terry we come to Richardson
ok ok back to JT. -
please show evidence that Terry Abuse Refs in the future chelsea matches if he really does that
i don't see him doing that in past few seasons as far as i know -
Poll: The truth behind the battle of Highbury
It was the 'unrefereeable' game — and both Manchester United and Arsenal wanted me to take charge. Not for the first, or last, time I used some advice from my friend, the Italian referee Pierluigi Collina, who always refused to speak to coaches or players before a game because it might suggest a lack of confidence, a weakness.
When I pressed the bell for the teams to leave their dressing-rooms on February 1, 2005, neither team emerged; neither wanted to be first. Each wanted to leave the other standing about in the corridor. I pressed the bell a second time. Again nothing happened. Arsene Wenger and Sir Alex Ferguson were keeping watch by their dressing-room doors, each waiting for the other to blink first in this stand-off.
I then decided on a personal approach. I walked to the Arsenal dressing-room. As I passed United's room, Sir Alex let me know in three chilling words what he expected of the game. He looked me in the eyes and said: 'Good luck tonight.' I asked Arsene, politely, to let his team out and he did. I walked along the tunnel, next to Arsenal's Patrick Vieira and tried to lighten the atmosphere. I said to Patrick: 'Remember this fixture last year when we made Roy Keane laugh as we waited to go out on to the pitch?' Patrick replied: 'That will not happen tonight.' I asked Sir Alex to send out his team. He answered: 'Roy's not ready.' I said: 'OK. No problem. He can join us in a minute.'
So the Arsenal line of players and the four match officials made their way towards the end of the Highbury tunnel. I then heard raised voices further back in the tunnel. Patrick and Gary Neville were in each other's faces. Patrick was saying that he wanted to break the England defender's legs. At that moment, Roy arrived. He said: 'Pick on someone your own size.' Patrick said: 'I'll break your legs as well.' Roy replied: 'If you were that good, you'd be playing for Real Madrid.'
It was a clever riposte — Patrick had been courted by Real the previous summer. I could have 'sent them off', some disciplinarians will tell you that is what I should have done. But I needed them on the pitch. I knew if I could manage them during the game — and I felt sure I could — the two influential captains could help me control a volatile match. So I split them up and we went out on to the Highbury pitch. When the time came for the toss of the coin they refused to shake hands and neither was willing to call 'heads' or 'tails' so I assigned the sides of the coin for them.
The testosterone was still coursing through the players' veins when they kicked off. Tackles went flying in. I awarded six free-kicks in the opening two minutes as I stuck to my game plan of keeping a lid on everything at the start. Ashley Cole claimed an early penalty after going down with what looked to me like a comically unconvincing dive. I clamped down on anything looking like a foul and Roy came over and said: 'You're making it worse.' I replied: 'Give me two more minutes and the game's yours.' I hoped that my rigorous opening gambit would tell the players I was in charge and after that they would have confidence in me and not try to settle their own feuds. And it worked. The 'unrefereeable' game was an absolute epic, with some magnificent, hightempo football.
I handed out six cautions and one red card to Mikael Silvestre for headbutting Freddie Ljungberg. As Silvestre left the field, Sir Alex, who had not seen the off-the-ball incident, asked him what had happened. Mikael replied: 'He pissed me off so I butted him.' The other contentious issue was the outburst of profanities from Wayne Rooney. I can't remember precisely what caused it but someone worked out that he used the f-word 27 times, mostly at me. It was, apparently, an impressive demonstration of rapid-fire swearing. Despite what so-called experts keep writing and broadcasting, using 'foul language' is no longer an offence, because people swear all the time.
In Rooney's case there were also other considerations. If I had sent him off, a volatile game might well have exploded. So I called Keane, Rooney's captain, over to us as a witness and told Rooney: 'There will be no more of this or else you will be sent off.' Whether Sir Alex reinforced my message at half-time, I do not know, but Rooney gave me no more trouble and kept his mouth more or less under control.
From my point of view, I had successfully man-managed him and had helped the game. If I had let the game explode it could have done terrible damage to the image of football and the English Premiership. Instead, we had a fixture which enhanced the reputation of both. -
Originally posted by zocoss:
nice article.
[b]Poll: The truth behind the battle of Highbury
It was the 'unrefereeable' game — and both Manchester United and Arsenal wanted me to take charge. Not for the first, or last, time I used some advice from my friend, the Italian referee Pierluigi Collina, who always refused to speak to coaches or players before a game because it might suggest a lack of confidence, a weakness.
When I pressed the bell for the teams to leave their dressing-rooms on February 1, 2005, neither team emerged; neither wanted to be first. Each wanted to leave the other standing about in the corridor. I pressed the bell a second time. Again nothing happened. Arsene Wenger and Sir Alex Ferguson were keeping watch by their dressing-room doors, each waiting for the other to blink first in this stand-off.
I then decided on a personal approach. I walked to the Arsenal dressing-room. As I passed United's room, Sir Alex let me know in three chilling words what he expected of the game. He looked me in the eyes and said: 'Good luck tonight.' I asked Arsene, politely, to let his team out and he did. I walked along the tunnel, next to Arsenal's Patrick Vieira and tried to lighten the atmosphere. I said to Patrick: 'Remember this fixture last year when we made Roy Keane laugh as we waited to go out on to the pitch?' Patrick replied: 'That will not happen tonight.' I asked Sir Alex to send out his team. He answered: 'Roy's not ready.' I said: 'OK. No problem. He can join us in a minute.'
So the Arsenal line of players and the four match officials made their way towards the end of the Highbury tunnel. I then heard raised voices further back in the tunnel. Patrick and Gary Neville were in each other's faces. Patrick was saying that he wanted to break the England defender's legs. At that moment, Roy arrived. He said: 'Pick on someone your own size.' Patrick said: 'I'll break your legs as well.' Roy replied: 'If you were that good, you'd be playing for Real Madrid.'
It was a clever riposte — Patrick had been courted by Real the previous summer. I could have 'sent them off', some disciplinarians will tell you that is what I should have done. But I needed them on the pitch. I knew if I could manage them during the game — and I felt sure I could — the two influential captains could help me control a volatile match. So I split them up and we went out on to the Highbury pitch. When the time came for the toss of the coin they refused to shake hands and neither was willing to call 'heads' or 'tails' so I assigned the sides of the coin for them.
The testosterone was still coursing through the players' veins when they kicked off. Tackles went flying in. I awarded six free-kicks in the opening two minutes as I stuck to my game plan of keeping a lid on everything at the start. Ashley Cole claimed an early penalty after going down with what looked to me like a comically unconvincing dive. I clamped down on anything looking like a foul and Roy came over and said: 'You're making it worse.' I replied: 'Give me two more minutes and the game's yours.' I hoped that my rigorous opening gambit would tell the players I was in charge and after that they would have confidence in me and not try to settle their own feuds. And it worked. The 'unrefereeable' game was an absolute epic, with some magnificent, hightempo football.
I handed out six cautions and one red card to Mikael Silvestre for headbutting Freddie Ljungberg. As Silvestre left the field, Sir Alex, who had not seen the off-the-ball incident, asked him what had happened. Mikael replied: 'He pissed me off so I butted him.' The other contentious issue was the outburst of profanities from Wayne Rooney. I can't remember precisely what caused it but someone worked out that he used the f-word 27 times, mostly at me. It was, apparently, an impressive demonstration of rapid-fire swearing. Despite what so-called experts keep writing and broadcasting, using 'foul language' is no longer an offence, because people swear all the time.
In Rooney's case there were also other considerations. If I had sent him off, a volatile game might well have exploded. So I called Keane, Rooney's captain, over to us as a witness and told Rooney: 'There will be no more of this or else you will be sent off.' Whether Sir Alex reinforced my message at half-time, I do not know, but Rooney gave me no more trouble and kept his mouth more or less under control.
From my point of view, I had successfully man-managed him and had helped the game. If I had let the game explode it could have done terrible damage to the image of football and the English Premiership. Instead, we had a fixture which enhanced the reputation of both.
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for me, I do agree that terry must go, but to go on being England Captain.
Why must the Captain be someone who just follows meekly?
Isn't he suppose to be fighting for the best for his team??
Terry does that, and on his best days, he can inspire the rest to better performance, and England needs that.
England has been suffering like a headless chicken for so long.. So beckham did it well, but hey, it is the next wave, or next lap.
Let Terry handles it, and that frees Gerrard for better work..
A view of a MUFC fan. -
was this the infamous battle of the buffet?
eh wait. sounds more like the one that man utd broke arsenal's unbeaten record.
damn, nowadays no more of such epic battles.
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Zocoss what u posted is more like man utd / arsenal captain trying to influence the ref
and especially SAF
nothing related to terry abusing the refs
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Oh man why do you always misunderstand people? I just wonder how do you get on in your everyday life misinterpreting others all the time... What i posted isn't about Terry, they are excerpts from referee Graham Poll's autobiography, Seeing Red, currently being serialised by the Press... Graham Poll is the main topic here and not Terry. Got it!Originally posted by ghimpheng:Zocoss what u posted is more like man utd / arsenal captain trying to influence the ref
and especially SAF
nothing related to terry abusing the refs
more like an example of man utd abusing the ref -
Patrick said: 'I'll break your legs as well.' Roy replied: 'If you were that good, you'd be playing for Real Madrid.'
LOL to Keane -
told you Graham Poll is crapOriginally posted by zocoss:Oh man why do you always misunderstand people? I just wonder how do you get on in your everyday life misinterpreting others all the time... What i posted isn't about Terry, they are excerpts from referee Graham Poll's autobiography, Seeing Red, currently being serialised by the Press... Graham Poll is the main topic here and not Terry. Got it! -
again, Poll being crap doesn't mean that Terry stops being a thug...
that being said, Gerrard figures he must be one too -
aiyah englishman is born rough and bullish.
heck don't say terry and gerrard.
keane and vieira are also known to abuse refs and intimidate them back then.
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Thats only your opinion, anybody is allow to share that opinion with you too but it still doesn't change the fact that he was the top referee in the EPL for the last few years... And also England's representive at the Euro and World Cup and not to forget the Champions League too during these time... Making one mistake does not change the fact that Fifa rated he highly too. The fact that he was frequently given highprofile matches shows that obviously there are many who rated him highly as well.Originally posted by ghimpheng:told you Graham Poll is crap -
I think you missed his point... It has nothing to do with the F word... I don't think Poll was just referring to abusive behaviour from Terry... Its more like he is referring to the flaw character of Terry. That he lied and made up stories after being red carded.Originally posted by stellazio:aiyah englishman is born rough and bullish.
heck don't say terry and gerrard.
keane and vieira are also known to abuse refs and intimidate them back then.
i see so many f words shouted at refs in the epl this days.
"Poll said: 'Terry had his version of events proven false and then was not big enough to apologise or even acknowledge publicly what he had done. 'You will make your own judgment about whether that behaviour befits an England captain. I know what I think. 'It wasn't conduct becoming of an England captain. JT, have a look at yourself.' "
FA fine Terry £10,000 last season for accusing Poll in an 'utterly unfounded allegation that he had produced a deliberately falsified account of his red card (at Tottenham)'.
This is the Point Poll is making... -
When Is Terry Proven Wrong ? Only Poll say that he make up the stories other than that nothing have proven itOriginally posted by zocoss:I think you missed his point... It has nothing to do with the F word... I don't
think Poll was just referring to abusive behaviour from Terry... Its more like he is referring to the flaw character of Terry. That he lied and made up stories after being red carded.
"Poll said: 'Terry had his version of events proven false and then was not big enough to apologise or even acknowledge publicly what he had done. 'You will make your own judgment about whether that behaviour befits an England captain. I know what I think. 'It wasn't conduct becoming of an England captain. JT, have a look at yourself.' "
FA fine Terry £10,000 last season for accusing Poll in an 'utterly unfounded allegation that he had produced a deliberately falsified account of his red card (at Tottenham)'.
This is the Point Poll is making...
it was poll who disallow drogba clean header goal and follow by this crappy sending off
and not sending off a tottenham player for a 2nd yellow card can't remember who if i had not remember it is Ghaly maybe not
the disallow of Drogba clean goal and claim that he saw a foul dun know how many yards out far far away in the galaxy clearly show that Poll is...........