WCQ Asian Zone 3rd Round - Draw and Fixtures
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most likely singapore will flop due to lack of experience in top flight football. I bet singapore wont be able to get 5 or more points.
My guess:
Australia
kuwait
lebanon
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you'd be surprised to see how fast our team learns and adapts.
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I'm cautiously optimistic we can make the 4th round. However, it will be a rocky road.
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come. lets all pray.
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Me too! However the group we are in will play a big part in my optimism, but I least I feel the team have the right mindset to give it a good fight!Originally posted by LazerLordz:I'm cautiously optimistic we can make the 4th round. However, it will be a rocky road. -
with just hours from the draw come lets speculate.
Singapore is just as good or could even be better than some of the teams from Pot 3 .Agree?
Singapore has what it takes to hold on to a draw or upset teams from Pot 1 and Pot 2 .Agree?
It is those teams that SIngapore have not played with before or in recent years that is nerve wrecking
Going to stage 4 is not a long shot.Agree?
We would like to see new FTs or talented Singapore born players intoduced for each of the stages.Agree?
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[quote]Originally posted by LazerLordz:
I'm cautiously optimistic we can make the 4th round. However, it will be a rocky road. [/quote
When the Lions play with weaker familiar teams we tend to feel like they have already lost but from now on they play as winners.When that happens anything is possible *4th stage -
I think Singapore will get thrashed and lose by the biggest margin by pot A out of the 5 groups. Then singapore will lose convincely to the team from pot B. And Singapore will blame the referee for wrong decisions, resulting in losses to the team from pot C.
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Are you still feeling crappy that your Malaysian team didnt make it ?Originally posted by Gasfene:I think Singapore will get thrashed and lose by the biggest margin by pot A out of the 5 groups. Then singapore will lose convincely to the team from pot B. And Singapore will blame the referee for wrong decisions, resulting in losses to the team from pot C.
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its home and away rite?
my guess is lose to pot A on both games.
draw lose home away with pot B.
win win at pot C
liddat got 7 points.
then hope pot B team drop points on pot C teams.
possible?
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It would be easier to speculate after the draw but Singapore must die die get 10 pts.2 wins and 4 drawsOriginally posted by club18:its home and away rite?
my guess is lose to pot A on both games.
draw lose home away with pot B.
win win at pot C
liddat got 7 points.
then hope pot B team drop points on pot C teams.
possible?
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I am not a malaysian. In fact, i am a Singaporean. I just dont feel Singapore can make it.Originally posted by Short Ninja:Are you still feeling crappy that your Malaysian team didnt make it ? -
I am not a Singaporean anymore but I dont ridicule the Singapore team because they have worked hard for this and when you work hard for something you can never fall totaly flat on your face even if things should go wrong.Originally posted by Gasfene:I am not a malaysian. In fact, i am a Singaporean. I just dont feel Singapore can make it. -
I feel we can scrape through with 9 points, assuming Pot C's team upsets Pot A's team once at least.
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At the present state of Asian Football it would be a truism to say that teams from Pot A are more nervous in facing any of the other teams from Pot B to Pot D.Trashing would mean 4 goals and above? SIngapore has to be super possessed for that to happen but winning by one or two goals is good enough.I respect all the teams that made it and dont expect any team to kena like what the Indonesian experienced.Originally posted by LazerLordz:I feel we can scrape through with 9 points, assuming Pot C's team upsets Pot A's team once at least.
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Hmm..last point's quite true.Originally posted by Short Ninja:At the present state of Asian Football it would be a truism to say that teams from Pot A are more nervous in facing any of the other teams from Pot B to Pot D.Trashing would mean 4 goals and above? SIngapore has to be super possessed for that to happen but winning by one or two goals is good enough.I respect all the teams that made it and dont expect any team to kena like what the Indonesian experienced.
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We were world #75th in the FIFA rankings once. 1993. Today that would place us in South Africa's standard.
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At that time Japan also just started the J-league and Chinese national team only know how to kick tonjolOriginally posted by LazerLordz:We were world #75th in the FIFA rankings once. 1993.
http://www.fifa.com/associations/association=sin/ranking/gender=m/index.html -
Somewhere along the line, I guess we went wrong.. hmm.Originally posted by Short Ninja:At that time Japan also just started the J-league and Chinese national team only know how to kick tonjol
China was #53 then, Japan was #43 and Uzbekistan were going back and forth between #78 and #109. -
I suspect the coaches must have been at fault and if only FTs were brought in at that time,Singapore wouldnt have back slided.Malayisa is doing the same stupid thing now.Originally posted by LazerLordz:Somewhere along the line, I guess we went wrong.. hmm.
China was #53 then, Japan was #43 and Uzbekistan were going back and forth between #78 and #109. -
I didnt ridicule the Singapore team. I only said out what i think.Originally posted by Short Ninja:I am not a Singaporean anymore but I dont ridicule the Singapore team because they have worked hard for this and when you work hard for something you can never fall totaly flat on your face even if things should go wrong.
There's a difference between "I think Singapore will get thrashed. Period" and "Singapore will get thrashed for sure. Period." -
[quote]Originally posted by Gasfene:
I didnt ridicule the Singapore team. I only said out what i think.
There's a difference between "I think Singapore will get thrashed. Period" and "Singapore will get thrashed for sure. Period."[/
Ok lah point noted and now back to watching Singapore Idol>
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Can the Lions go all the way?
They are now in round three, the furthest any S'pore team have gone
By Wang Meng Meng
CELEBRATING WITH his teammates after qualifying for the third round, Singapore captain Indra Sahdan and fellow Lions have two more gruelling rounds before South Africa 2010. -- ST PHOTO: ALBERT SIM
HAVING sailed into uncharted waters, can Singapore now navigate all the way to South Africa 2010?
Coach Raddy Avramovic's gritty and workmanlike outfit are already in the third round of the World Cup qualifiers - the furthest the Lions have travelled.
They have two more daunting rounds before they can reach the finals in 2010.
Neither the fabled team of 1977 nor the celebrated 1994 legends of the Malaysia Cup days have gone as far.
Little wonder, then, that Avramovic has hailed the current national team as the best in his four years in charge.
Ever since they participated in the qualifiers three decades ago, Singapore have never made it into the third round.
Their previous best showing came in their World Cup debut in 1977 when they finished second in the first-round group with a little bit of help from stars such as Dollah Kassim, Samad Alapitchay and Quah Kim Song.
After that, the Republic made it a habit of falling at the first hurdle for the next seven editions of the qualifiers.
Today, Singapore go into tonight's World Cup draw in Durban fearing none of the Asian big guns - Australia, Japan, Iran, Saudi Arabia and South Korea.
They started the perilous journey with a gutsy 4-0 whacking of Palestine in neutral Doha.
They followed up with a 2-0 win over Tajikistan at Kallang and, despite an outbreak of diarrhoea, the Lions drew 1-1 away to claim the third-round spot.
Their steely performances have received the nod from the local football fraternity.
Former star striker Quah, whose brace clinched the 1977 Malaysia Cup final for Singapore, is one of the first to doff his hat.
He said: 'Football is played faster now. All credit to the lads, who have pace and are physically very fit.
'Even if they fail to qualify from the third round, it will not be easy for the big guns to play this Singapore team.''
When Avramovic took over four years ago, his first year in charge saw more downs than ups.
The Lions were beaten 0-4 by Kuwait in the 2003 Asian Cup qualifiers. A year later, they were spanked 0-7 by Oman en route to finishing bottom of their World Cup qualifying group.
Quah puts it into perspective.
'The 1977 side played teams like Thailand and Hong Kong,' he said. 'Today's team beat Palestine 4-0 away and drew 1-1 at Tajikistan.
'Before that, they limited Japan to a 1-2 win in 2004, drew 0-0 with China last year and even beat Iraq 2-0 in the Asian Cup qualifiers. The results speak volumes about the team.''
The statistics certainly show the Lions' quantum leap in results under the Serb's guidance.
They were dismal during the 2004 World Cup qualifiers, losing five out of their six games, and finishing bottom of their group.
Since then, the Lions have been unbeaten in two Asean campaigns in 2005 and again this year.
Since 2005, when he formed the core of his winning team, the Lions have tasted defeat just three times (to Palestine, Iraq and China in the 2006 Asian Cup qualifiers) in 23 competitive fixtures.
According to former star striker Fandi Ahmad, the secret is the coach's emphasis on team ethics.
Observed Fandi: 'It's great to see Singapore going this far. Credit to Raddy, as the team have improved a lot under him.
'Their strength lies in their collective play. They may not have individual stars like the 1994 or 1977 sides, but this team are solid in all departments.''
Former national skipper Nazri Nasir hails Avramovic's methodical approach.
He said: 'The Malaysia Cup team had household names like Fandi, Lim Tong Hai and V. Sundramoorthy. But the present team are very organised. Tactically, they are sound.''
Anthony Foo, a 62-year-old die-hard fan who has followed football closely since the 1970s, is another believer that the current team can go far.
He said: 'They have impressed me with their fighting spirit. They also play with incredible self-belief.''
But former international Malek Awab, who has a record 123 caps for Singapore, wants to see more local players in the national team.
'Look at Shahril Ishak. He's the finest midfielder now but, because of the foreign-born players, he has to sit on the bench.''
The Lions have seven foreign-born players in the 22-strong squad.
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'I still prefer the old days, when players were made of sterner stuff. I doubt if anyone from the current batch can tackle as hard as Robert Sim or Hasli Ibrahim.'
KHOO KENG HOE, 75, a retiree who had been following the Lions since he was a teenager
'They have matured into a good team with good foreign imports. With more experience, the team will make even more progress.'
MOHD IZHAR, 24, a Lions fan
'This current side play like a true team. There are no egos in the squad and their team-work is outstanding.'
LEE BEE SENG, former national goalkeeper and current national goalkeeping coach
'The current team has definitely surpassed the famous 1977 team, in terms of results. But to be fair, the 1977 team was made up of part-timers. All of us had day jobs.'
LIM TENG SAI, national defender from 1971-1977.
'This team is short on local talent. Just look at how many of this present team are attracting offers from overseas clubs? None.'
An ex-international, who declined to be named
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please, just leave the country. go become an English citizen or whatever BS country's football you support instead of your own country's.Originally posted by Gasfene:I am not a malaysian. In fact, i am a Singaporean. I just dont feel Singapore can make it. -
the draw is tonight!!!
Po pi po pi!!!!