Who are the ball players in the England squad?
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For the uninitiated,a ball player is one who has a good first touch,can dribble,pass long or short and keep possession well.
For now,I can only think of
Ferdinand
Rooney
Carrick
J.Cole
The rest are all blood and guts kind of players who often run like Forrest Gump(fast,lots of stamina and without direction) and will just hoof the ball up field and hope for the best.(especially Gerrard) -
ferdinand???
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yeah ferdinand?Originally posted by HyuugaNeji:ferdinand??? -
Lol damn good for a defender...compare with the players in offensive positions..Originally posted by Resentment:yeah ferdinand?
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Originally posted by Marco_Simone:For the uninitiated,a ball player is one who has a good first touch,can dribble,pass long or short and keep possession well.
For now,I can only think of
Ferdinand
Rooney
Carrick
J.Cole
The rest are all blood and guts kind of players who often run like Forrest Gump(fast,lots of stamina and without direction) and will just hoof the ball up field and hope for the best.(especially Gerrard)
only these four are ball player?? then the rest do what?? ball picker? 
or you mean play maker?
wonder u watch football bor....there are lots are much better then the named 4.....
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so this is another indirect hit of ac milan on liverpool
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You dont even know the meaning of "ball player"...Originally posted by baby hunter: only these four are ball player?? then the rest do what?? ball picker?
or you mean play maker?
wonder u watch football bor....there are lots are much better then the named 4..... 
Steve McMahamman would be a good example of a ball player. -
joe cole cannot keep possesion wan
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Good news is all r ball players, bad news is none r play maker.
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ts talking about les ferdinand ar?
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Tohari Pajian
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Think is Rio?Originally posted by thoreldan:ts talking about les ferdinand ar? -
u got to be kidding me!
rooney is termed as saviour of england by his countrymen. but he has a quick-temper whom might cause failure to the team. just look at his world cup performance by getting sent off which he could have avoid them.
n playing against russia, he helped them by giving them a penalty which costed england landed up to this sorry state.
rooney may be scoring goals for england, but his weakness is being young n reckless which may lead team to destruction. -
if ferdinand is a ball player, then i guess sol campbell and ashley cole are also ball players. (for defenders anyway)
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gerrard is actually quite a good passer of the ball, he doesn't just hoof the ball up...
gareth barry is quite a ball player, just that he can't dribble....
i won't call the rest of the england squad blood and guts players, they're more like power and pace, and that's what modern football is all about now really...which is a bit of a pity that u dun see much of the likes of zola, le tissier, kinkladze, ginola nowadays....
micah richards and ashley cole make good runs down the wings so not all of them run around like headless chicken, even if they do i think the england fans would appreciate that more cos at least they're working hard!!!! -
from here i can c tat TS is obviously a MU fan
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Nothing to do with the mental side of the game.I am only talking about the technical aspects.Originally posted by 798:u got to be kidding me!
rooney is termed as saviour of england by his countrymen. but he has a quick-temper whom might cause failure to the team. just look at his world cup performance by getting sent off which he could have avoid them.
n playing against russia, he helped them by giving them a penalty which costed england landed up to this sorry state.
rooney may be scoring goals for england, but his weakness is being young n reckless which may lead team to destruction. -
I think gerrard and lampard are good ball players.
in the last wc, I think OwenH was quite good too.
I would scholes in that area too but he retired. -
go fly kite lah.Originally posted by 798:u got to be kidding me!
rooney is termed as saviour of england by his countrymen. but he has a quick-temper whom might cause failure to the team. just look at his world cup performance by getting sent off which he could have avoid them.
n playing against russia, he helped them by giving them a penalty which costed england landed up to this sorry state.
rooney may be scoring goals for england, but his weakness is being young n reckless which may lead team to destruction.
imagine you at his age and handling the expectations and you tell me about having a temper.
he gave away a penalty? why don't you think about who was supposed to be covering? what happened to the LB or LMF?? have you ever seen owen or henry run all the way back to tackle?
for me, as a MUFC fan, I won't want anything less of Rooney, his aggression, and his skills..
I think he already improved a lot since the past, and given his age, he can only get better. -
These 2,I agreeOriginally posted by iceFatboy:in the last wc, I think OwenH was quite good too.
I would scholes in that area too but he retired. -
Are there any genuine No 10 in England?
The default 4-4-2 formation is the reason why there arent any genuine No 10s... -
I dont think blaming Rooney for England's dismal performance, labelling him as a destructor is justifiedOriginally posted by 798:u got to be kidding me!
rooney is termed as saviour of england by his countrymen. but he has a quick-temper whom might cause failure to the team. just look at his world cup performance by getting sent off which he could have avoid them.
n playing against russia, he helped them by giving them a penalty which costed england landed up to this sorry state.
rooney may be scoring goals for england, but his weakness is being young n reckless which may lead team to destruction. -
he's not really as great as u pple think.Originally posted by lpx88:I dont think blaming Rooney for England's dismal performance, labelling him as a destructor is justified
at the start of euro campaign, england is doing fine through his suspension n injuries. it makes no difference even for his comeback as to me rooney is a ticking time bomb for his temper for the team failure. -
Thing is,you and I know that the whole god damn team is at fault man. You cant possibly just let him shoulder all of the blame. It was obvious he was barely half fit when he played for a sparkless England team in the World Cup. Conceding a penalty(Which was not supposed to be given) that led to England's exit in Euro 08? Questionable indeed, when everyone knows that the team has to play credibly well for all matches to qualify. Big picture is, it is evident that the whole team which just cant seem to play well together, and have to share this collective blame.Originally posted by 798:he's not really as great as u pple think.
at the start of euro campaign, england is doing fine through his suspension n injuries. it makes no difference even for his comeback as to me rooney is a ticking time bomb for his temper for the team failure.
I think that whenever he plays, people expects him to conjure miracles after miracles and even if he puts up a credible performance but still fail to do that miracle that England needs, people all start slaming him. Expecting a 22 year old like him to carry a whole national team on his back, blaming him when the team fails is really a little too much.