Whey proteins
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Is it really effective in promoting muscle growth and other health benefits? pls offer your knowledge and opinions:)
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Basically from what i know... these type of products contains all the essential nutrients optimal for muscle growth.
But of couse to make it really effective, u have to combine the supplement intake with the correct exercise regime.
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is this a new word "whey" between a why and a .." when".....???
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scary food.
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Originally posted by Arapahoe:
is this a new word "whey" between a why and a .." when".....???
its a by product of cheese production.. -
yo whey proteins gd... taste gd too. Dont take creatine, just build water-mass. Dont take steroids, they eff up ur testes and jaw. Dont bother taking amino acid supplements, they just help with muscle fatigue.
Most important thing if u want to gain weight is eat. eat a shit load. If you wanna gain muscle mass, do squats and deadlifts. they are the best exercises in gettings your testosterone flowing through. trust.
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whey protein is good to use straight after you work out, as it is the most fast-acting protein. ie. your body synthesises it after 30-60 minutes or thereabouts, as opposed to, say, milk proteins - which take 4 hours to start to be absorbed into your blood stream.
take whey with simple carbs (sugars - perferably dextrose) straight after you work out at 2:1. ie. 60 grams sugar, 30 grams whey. and i mean straight after - you have a 'window of opportunity' to start packing it on straight away, as your muscles are craving the simple carbs to get out of the catabolic state they're in.
so, all in all, only take whey straight after waking up so your muscles get quick protein, and straight after working out for the same reason. there's no point taking it at other times no matter what it says on the packaging you're reading.
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Sorry to bust your chop....please do your own research before you take it....
Read this article.
Like i said do more research.....
Report: Protein Drinks Have Unhealthy Metals
Consumer Reports Study Finds Worrisome Levels of Lead, Cadmium, and Other MetalsReviewed by Laura J. Martin, MDJune 3, 2010 -- Popular protein drinks with names like Muscle Milk and EAS Myoplex -- favorites of teens, gym rats, boomers, and pregnant women -- can contain potentially unsafe levels of heavy metals and other harmful substances, according to an investigation by Consumer Reports.
''Consuming these kinds of protein drinks on a regular basis can in some cases create the risk of chronic exposure, even at low levels, to heavy metals such as cadmium and lead that can pose health problems, particularly to vulnerable people," says Andrea Rock, the Consumer Reports editor for the investigation. Among vulnerable people are children under age 18, pregnant women, and people with diabetes or chronic kidney conditions, she says.
Makers of protein drinks disagreed and said there were flaws in the investigation.
While the protein drinks are marketed as convenient, Rock says, "Most people can meet their protein needs through diet. And that can be better for both your health and your wallet.''
The full report will be in the July issue of Consumer Reports.
Lab Tests on Protein Drinks
For the study, Consumer Reports had an independent laboratory test 15 protein drinks, including ready-to-drink formulas and powders meant to be mixed with milk, juice, or water. Three servings of the products tested provide from 27 to180 grams of protein.
Testing for contaminants -- including arsenic, cadmium, lead, and mercury -- found most products to be in the low to moderate range. But three products cause concern, Rock says, because people who have three servings a day could be exposed to higher levels of three substances -- arsenic, cadmium and lead. Some products surpass the maximum limit proposed by the U.S. Pharmacopeia (USP). The USP sets voluntary standards for health products.
Excess cadmium can accumulate and gather in the kidneys, and excess protein can also damage the kidneys.
Protein drinks are considered dietary supplements, so the makers are not required to test the products before sale to ensure they are safe and effective, according to the report.
Consumer Reports says these three products are of special concern:
- EAS Myoplex Original Rich Dark Chocolate Shake has an average of 16.9 micrograms of arsenic in three servings -- more than the 15 micrograms a day that is the proposed USP limit. It has an average of 5.1 micrograms of cadmium for three servings -- above the USP limit of 5 micrograms a day.
- Muscle Milk chocolate powder, at three servings, contained all four of the metals, and three metals were found at a level that was among the highest of all 15 products tested. Cadmium levels were 5.6 micrograms -- above the 5-microgram limit. Lead was 13.5 micrograms -- above the USP limit of 10 micrograms. The arsenic averaged 12.2 micrograms -- near the 15-microgram daily USP limit.
- Muscle Milk vanilla crème had 12.2 micrograms of lead per three servings -- above the 10-microgram daily limit. It has 11.2 micrograms of arsenic -- close to the 15-microgram daily limit.
Just one of the products, Six Star Muscle Professional Strength Whey Protein, specifies a maximum daily intake, Rock found. Other makers use vague language, the researchers say, which could promote high consumption levels
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Originally posted by Arapahoe:
Sorry to bust your chop....please do your own research before you take it....
Read this article.
Like i said do more research.....
Report: Protein Drinks Have Unhealthy Metals
Consumer Reports Study Finds Worrisome Levels of Lead, Cadmium, and Other MetalsBy Kathleen Doheny
WebMD Health NewsReviewed by Laura J. Martin, MDJune 3, 2010 -- Popular protein drinks with names like Muscle Milk and EAS Myoplex -- favorites of teens, gym rats, boomers, and pregnant women -- can contain potentially unsafe levels of heavy metals and other harmful substances, according to an investigation by Consumer Reports.
''Consuming these kinds of protein drinks on a regular basis can in some cases create the risk of chronic exposure, even at low levels, to heavy metals such as cadmium and lead that can pose health problems, particularly to vulnerable people," says Andrea Rock, the Consumer Reports editor for the investigation. Among vulnerable people are children under age 18, pregnant women, and people with diabetes or chronic kidney conditions, she says.
Makers of protein drinks disagreed and said there were flaws in the investigation.
While the protein drinks are marketed as convenient, Rock says, "Most people can meet their protein needs through diet. And that can be better for both your health and your wallet.''
The full report will be in the July issue of Consumer Reports.
Lab Tests on Protein Drinks
For the study, Consumer Reports had an independent laboratory test 15 protein drinks, including ready-to-drink formulas and powders meant to be mixed with milk, juice, or water. Three servings of the products tested provide from 27 to180 grams of protein.
Testing for contaminants -- including arsenic, cadmium, lead, and mercury -- found most products to be in the low to moderate range. But three products cause concern, Rock says, because people who have three servings a day could be exposed to higher levels of three substances -- arsenic, cadmium and lead. Some products surpass the maximum limit proposed by the U.S. Pharmacopeia (USP). The USP sets voluntary standards for health products.
Excess cadmium can accumulate and gather in the kidneys, and excess protein can also damage the kidneys.
Protein drinks are considered dietary supplements, so the makers are not required to test the products before sale to ensure they are safe and effective, according to the report.
Consumer Reports says these three products are of special concern:
- EAS Myoplex Original Rich Dark Chocolate Shake has an average of 16.9 micrograms of arsenic in three servings -- more than the 15 micrograms a day that is the proposed USP limit. It has an average of 5.1 micrograms of cadmium for three servings -- above the USP limit of 5 micrograms a day.
- Muscle Milk chocolate powder, at three servings, contained all four of the metals, and three metals were found at a level that was among the highest of all 15 products tested. Cadmium levels were 5.6 micrograms -- above the 5-microgram limit. Lead was 13.5 micrograms -- above the USP limit of 10 micrograms. The arsenic averaged 12.2 micrograms -- near the 15-microgram daily USP limit.
- Muscle Milk vanilla crème had 12.2 micrograms of lead per three servings -- above the 10-microgram daily limit. It has 11.2 micrograms of arsenic -- close to the 15-microgram daily limit.
Just one of the products, Six Star Muscle Professional Strength Whey Protein, specifies a maximum daily intake, Rock found. Other makers use vague language, the researchers say, which could promote high consumption levels
Heavy metals are natural components of the Earth's crust. They cannot be degraded or destroyed. To a small extent they enter our bodies via food, drinking water and air. As trace elements, some heavy metals (e.g. copper, selenium, zinc) are essential to maintain the metabolism of the human body. However, at higher concentrations they can be toxic. Heavy metal poisoning could result, for instance, from drinking-water contamination (e.g. lead pipes), high ambient air concentrations near emission sources, or intake via the food chain.
Heavy metals are dangerous because they tend to bioaccumulate. Bioaccumulation means an increase in the concentration of a chemical in a biological organism over time, compared to the chemical's concentration in the environment. Compounds accumulate in living things any time they are taken up and stored faster than they are broken down (metabolized) or excreted.
Still, food poisoning from heavy metals is very rare and in most cases only occurs after environmental pollution. The most well-known example of such an environmental pollution occurred in Japan between 1932-55.
Since 1932 sewage containing mercury was released by Chisso's chemicals works into Minimata Bay in Japan. The mercury accumulates in sea creatures, leading eventually to mercury poisoning in the population. In 1952, the first incidents of mercury poisoning appear in the population of Minimata Bay in Japan, caused by consumption of fish polluted with mercury. In total 500 fatalities were recorded in the 1950s. Since then, Japan has had the strictest environmental laws in the industrialised world and the disease is known as the Minamata Syndrome
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Originally posted by eagle:
Heavy metals are natural components of the Earth's crust. They cannot be degraded or destroyed. To a small extent they enter our bodies via food, drinking water and air. As trace elements, some heavy metals (e.g. copper, selenium, zinc) are essential to maintain the metabolism of the human body. However, at higher concentrations they can be toxic. Heavy metal poisoning could result, for instance, from drinking-water contamination (e.g. lead pipes), high ambient air concentrations near emission sources, or intake via the food chain.
Heavy metals are dangerous because they tend to bioaccumulate. Bioaccumulation means an increase in the concentration of a chemical in a biological organism over time, compared to the chemical's concentration in the environment. Compounds accumulate in living things any time they are taken up and stored faster than they are broken down (metabolized) or excreted.
Still, food poisoning from heavy metals is very rare and in most cases only occurs after environmental pollution. The most well-known example of such an environmental pollution occurred in Japan between 1932-55.
Since 1932 sewage containing mercury was released by Chisso's chemicals works into Minimata Bay in Japan. The mercury accumulates in sea creatures, leading eventually to mercury poisoning in the population. In 1952, the first incidents of mercury poisoning appear in the population of Minimata Bay in Japan, caused by consumption of fish polluted with mercury. In total 500 fatalities were recorded in the 1950s. Since then, Japan has had the strictest environmental laws in the industrialised world and the disease is known as the Minamata Syndrome
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Heavy metals are also present in normal daily life foods like seafood, fruits, etc.
yes heavy metal already in our daily diet. all the more to concern about excessive.Anyway I was thinking SG new water....does it removed mineral and metal ?
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Originally posted by Arapahoe:
yes heavy metal already in our daily diet. all the more to concern about excessive.Anyway I was thinking SG new water....does it removed mineral and metal ?
Like that we should just stop eating altogether
Newater? I dunno also... My sis working in PUB, but I don't think she would know too.
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Originally posted by eagle:
Like that we should just stop eating altogether
Newater? I dunno also... My sis working in PUB, but I don't think she would know too.
well we are always being warned about certain fish has excessive mercury....
About reverse osmosis what is the micron level of molecule gets thru?
Our body urine excess vitamins from our system....does reverse osmosis filter excess mineral molecules.
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I'm not sure also. Let's direct our questions to Hyflux?
We go to their AGM for buffet as well
Imagine sgforums outing to Hyflux AGMSeriously, sometimes we are too worried about the exact details of the food going into us. As long as we eat normally, eat with discretion and proportion, there will usually be nothing wrong. Afterall, our ancestors have been doing the same thing for centuries!
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competitive body-building is an expensive hobby..How many of you agree with that?
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Originally posted by dangerboi:
competitive body-building is an expensive hobby..How many of you agree with that?
in singapore everything is expensive.....don't even have to talk about competitive body building .....just our basic Vitamin pills from the shelves are much cheaper overseas. -
Originally posted by Arapahoe:
in singapore everything is expensive.....don't even have to talk about competitive body building .....just our basic Vitamin pills from the shelves are much cheaper overseas.I source my fish oil caps directly from overseas
Much much cheaper... Check out iherb.com and wait for their year end flat US$10 international delivery fee. ;)
dangerboi, not necessary if you are a sponsored athlete, especially if you talked about competitive. Ask Macro_Simone; he's a sponsored strongman athlete.
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Originally posted by Babelfish:
Is it really effective in promoting muscle growth and other health benefits? pls offer your knowledge and opinions:)
The last time when I am calculate my nutrition needs that is like egg and toasts for breakfast, noodles for lunch and chicken rice for dinner. I am eating like half the protein I need, exact amount of carbo and twice the fat, sodium and cholesterol. So I am not eating enough protein in my diet.
So YES whey protein is needed to promote muscle growth as we are not eating enough in our Asian diet. Unlike the westerners, they have steak and fish fillet every meal.
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Originally posted by eagle:
I source my fish oil caps directly from overseas
Much much cheaper... Check out iherb.com and wait for their year end flat US$10 international delivery fee. ;)
dangerboi, not necessary if you are a sponsored athlete, especially if you talked about competitive. Ask Macro_Simone; he's a sponsored strongman athlete.
sponsored is totally a different thing...sponsored is sponsored..
If one takes a few scoops of whey protein every day, a 5lbs whey protein might be finished in 3 weeks plus.?
costco.com...it's failed me a few times though...
I'll try iherb.com during december 2010; thanks for your recommendation.
It's alright to body build but if one wants to body build competitively it's always good to have a sponsor
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why u take so much?
5lbs last me for a very long time :)
Recommendation: 4everfit Fruit Blast Mango flavour is damn nice...
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I never take protein le...
But I admit.. not AS buff..
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One can eat more meat or drink more milk for the same effect. Protein powders are not necessary at all.