How do body respond when jogging?
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Originally posted by isoboney:
Does not warming up contribute to this problem? =X
I did not do warm up this morning before jogging.
Im not sure if i can jog that long. But what i did today was jog 1.5min walk 1.5min for 6 cycles.
warmup is needed else u will get injuries..dont not sure not sure..do it..can one..i was oversized last time and i did only 4 km in 1 hour..but its all bout determination and endurance de...body can only do so much but ur mind can do even much more...as long as u dont start seeing blackspots or chest pain while running, its fine.. 1 hour cuz first 30 mins burns ur food and energy and next 30 mins burns ur fats..and this 1 hour jogging is to build up ur legs muscles and burn fats, ur heart should not be beating vigorously..cardio got their own sets of training but for now u just do this first..there are tendancy u tempted to walk, but don't..it wont help one..and rmb to keep hydrated thru out..and also if u wanna tone up, best time is do statics immediately after jogging -
An ache after 100m is very normal. All it means is that your muscles are just starting to get warmed up. After all, like you yourself said, you haven't been running in a long, long time.
Think of a car that has just gotten its ignition switched on - it will splutter loudly at first before it can function properly, right? And if you haven't used it in a long time, it will splutter more, right? The same analogy applies.
Push yourself slowly and steadily and do not do too much all at one go. The rule of thumb is that you should escalate by no more than 10% of your previous maximum distance per week. In short, if your previous max running distance was 2 km last week, you should run 2.2 km this week.
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Originally posted by isoboney:
So your advice is just keep jogging and i'll gradually improve?
THEN?
no one improves by stopping just because they feel tired or aching during the initial stages
completing 2.4km in 18mins means your stamina is terrible in the first place.
the only time i see anyone complete 2.4km in 18-20mins is a really fat dude who doesn't bother to exercise.
the problem i see is that you don't push yourself.
your tolerance to aches is super low, u think you're aching and can't go on.
even if u jog with your friends last time, its more likely a super slow and playful jog
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Originally posted by _Da_Dood_:
warmup is needed else u will get injuries..dont not sure not sure..do it..can one..i was oversized last time and i did only 4 km in 1 hour..but its all bout determination and endurance de...body can only do so much but ur mind can do even much more...as long as u dont start seeing blackspots or chest pain while running, its fine.. 1 hour cuz first 30 mins burns ur food and energy and next 30 mins burns ur fats..and this 1 hour jogging is to build up ur legs muscles and burn fats, ur heart should not be beating vigorously..cardio got their own sets of training but for now u just do this first..there are tendancy u tempted to walk, but don't..it wont help one..and rmb to keep hydrated thru out..and also if u wanna tone up, best time is do statics immediately after joggingOk. Thanks so much for the advice. I will work on it on wed.
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Originally posted by fudgester:
An ache after 100m is very normal. All it means is that your muscles are just starting to get warmed up. After all, like you yourself said, you haven't been running in a long, long time.
Think of a car that has just gotten its ignition switched on - it will splutter loudly at first before it can function properly, right? And if you haven't used it in a long time, it will splutter more, right? The same analogy applies.
Push yourself slowly and steadily and do not do too much all at one go. The rule of thumb is that you should escalate by no more than 10% of your previous maximum distance per week. In short, if your previous max running distance was 2 km last week, you should run 2.2 km this week.
Ok. Thanks for the help. I'll keep that in mind.
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Originally posted by kopiosatu:
THEN?
no one improves by stopping just because they feel tired or aching during the initial stages
completing 2.4km in 18mins means your stamina is terrible in the first place.
the only time i see anyone complete 2.4km in 18-20mins is a really fat dude who doesn't bother to exercise.
the problem i see is that you don't push yourself.
your tolerance to aches is super low, u think you're aching and can't go on.
even if u jog with your friends last time, its more likely a super slow and playful jog
I get what you mean. But i did not stop jogging. I was saying im jogging at a slower pace. The 1.5min jog/walk is a method i tried today thats all. My main question in this thread is about the calves ache. Whether its normal or not. Some say they dont feel it. Im confused.
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Originally posted by isoboney:
I get what you mean. But i did not stop jogging. I was saying im jogging at a slower pace. The 1.5min jog/walk is a method i tried today thats all. My main question in this thread is about the calves ache. Whether its normal or not. Some say they dont feel it. Im confused.
some complete 2.4km in 8mins
some can run marathon.
everyone feels that ache eventually. some 1km later, some 2km later. but because they jog so often, they know its normal and they just keep going.
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Originally posted by kopiosatu:
some complete 2.4km in 8mins
some can run marathon.
everyone feels that ache eventually. some 1km later, some 2km later. but because they jog so often, they know its normal and they just keep going.
Ok. Now that i know that. Thanks alot.
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just trudging on at crawling pace doesn't make u improve
going faster will make you improve
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Originally posted by kopiosatu:
just trudging on at crawling pace doesn't make u improve
going faster will make you improve
Ok. Thanks.
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urmm... how heavy are u?
i am trying to slim down.. and is in the progress to slim down.. and i realised that if u are heavy there is a big difference... my first guess was that ur calf too weak or u too heavy..
if u are not those obesed type, then did u warm up? warm up is such a impt thing that almost everyone do not do in public... they might think it is uncool, troublesome, or dun feel like it.. but warm up is extremely impt, trust me...
if u did warm up.. did ur warm up include stretching?
if not.. u are really too weak, no offense but pls build up on urself...
during my progress to slim down, of like about 95kg, i can run 4km in half an hour... and it is quite easy... now tho still slimming down, like about 87kg i can run 4km in 18mins.. and i think it is just ur fitness, if not u are too heavy.. u see, 7kg difference can make such a big timing difference in long run... and dun try HIIT training for goodness sake, ppl do that kind of training because jogging is nothing to them anymore... and 4km is very little btw... try to target ur self with 4km in 30 mins first.. later aim for 5 km in 35 mins, then next try to run 10 km with no time limit, then finally try 14km... after all that then try harder type of training..
anyway... for any jogging or timing or what.. i dun care if u run faster if u stop halfway and run again.. the golden rule for jogging is to NOT STOP no matter ur pace.. even if u are jogging at a pace that is just slightly faster than walking, but u dun stop thats good.. -
btw jog with ur whole body moving... dun jog with ur feet only... if u dun get what i am talking about.. just keep jogging and eventually u will find ur answer..
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Originally posted by ItchyArmpit:
urmm... how heavy are u?
i am trying to slim down.. and is in the progress to slim down.. and i realised that if u are heavy there is a big difference... my first guess was that ur calf too weak or u too heavy..
if u are not those obesed type, then did u warm up? warm up is such a impt thing that almost everyone do not do in public... they might think it is uncool, troublesome, or dun feel like it.. but warm up is extremely impt, trust me...
if u did warm up.. did ur warm up include stretching?
if not.. u are really too weak, no offense but pls build up on urself...
during my progress to slim down, of like about 95kg, i can run 4km in half an hour... and it is quite easy... now tho still slimming down, like about 87kg i can run 4km in 18mins.. and i think it is just ur fitness, if not u are too heavy.. u see, 7kg difference can make such a big timing difference in long run... and dun try HIIT training for goodness sake, ppl do that kind of training because jogging is nothing to them anymore... and 4km is very little btw... try to target ur self with 4km in 30 mins first.. later aim for 5 km in 35 mins, then next try to run 10 km with no time limit, then finally try 14km... after all that then try harder type of training..
anyway... for any jogging or timing or what.. i dun care if u run faster if u stop halfway and run again.. the golden rule for jogging is to NOT STOP no matter ur pace.. even if u are jogging at a pace that is just slightly faster than walking, but u dun stop thats good..Im 60kg and have gained 8kg since my last weighting. Was around 48kg when im in sec sch. Overweight only when i was baby. Underweight all the way after that.
Just finished jogging. Tried 1.2km and took a timing of 7mins. I stopped in the middle because a car suddenly drove out of the carpark. I walked abit but im trying my best to walk lesser and lesser. I wanna try not to walk on fri. My calves dont ache that much until when im ard 1km. But there is a itch feeling between my heel and my toes.
The past few jogging session i did not stretch much. I stretch more today and did a briskwalk from my house to the place i jog which is approx 3mins walk. I got tired only when im halfway through my running route.
And yes, i think my calves are not strong enough. Have been doing calves rises since yesterday.
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Originally posted by isoboney:
Im 60kg and have gained 8kg since my last weighting. Was around 48kg when im in sec sch. Overweight only when i was baby. Underweight all the way after that.
Just finished jogging. Tried 1.2km and took a timing of 7mins. I stopped in the middle because a car suddenly drove out of the carpark. I walked abit but im trying my best to walk lesser and lesser. I wanna try not to walk on fri. My calves dont ache that much until when im ard 1km. But there is a itch feeling between my heel and my toes.
The past few jogging session i did not stretch much. I stretch more today and did a briskwalk from my house to the place i jog which is approx 3mins walk. I got tired only when im halfway through my running route.
And yes, i think my calves are not strong enough. Have been doing calves rises since yesterday.
Like what you told me and several others, you gorged on fast food to gain weight. In short, that 8 kg is mainly 8 kg of FAT.
Now, in order to get fitter, you must work harder than if you had not gained all that excess fat. Congratulations for having such a brilliant diet plan.
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try swimming to rid of the fats.
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Originally posted by fudgester:
Like what you told me and several others, you gorged on fast food to gain weight. In short, that 8 kg is mainly 8 kg of FAT.
Now, in order to get fitter, you must work harder than if you had not gained all that excess fat. Congratulations for having such a brilliant diet plan.
Im nt sure is it fat or what. Medical check up have shown that my body fats is in the acceptable range. Its around the low and acceptable margin there.
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so are u saying the car made u have a timing of 7mins?
u better hit 6mins for your 1.2
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Originally posted by kopiosatu:
so are u saying the car made u have a timing of 7mins?
u better hit 6mins for your 1.2
I did not said the car make my timing 7mins. Just stating the point where i stopped and walked.
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Originally posted by isoboney:
I did not said the car make my timing 7mins. Just stating the point where i stopped and walked.
u stop and walk for what.
u can jog on the spot and continue jogging when the car moves off
don't be lazy
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Originally posted by isoboney:
Im nt sure is it fat or what. Medical check up have shown that my body fats is in the acceptable range. Its around the low and acceptable margin there.
Uhh..... yes? Because pigging out on fast food without exercising seriously will lead to fat gain? Because all you did was to increase your body fat level from 'low' to 'not so low'?
I tell you what: go and load your backpack with 8 kg of weights, then go and walk around the whole day with it without taking it off. Heck, go running with it.
THAT is what you have been doing to your body.
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You are underweight till you get pes B L1... Are you are seriously undernourished?
What do you eat everyday? Your bone mass, muscle mass, must all be very low.
There's no point running more and more. Your diet might not even be enough to fuel your runs.
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Originally posted by eagle:
You are underweight till you get pes B L1... Are you are seriously undernourished?
What do you eat everyday? Your bone mass, muscle mass, must all be very low.
There's no point running more and more. Your diet might not even be enough to fuel your runs.
The doctor just said that everything is fine. Just downgrade from PES A to PES BL1 because im underweight. Some of my friends were also downgraded to BL1 because of weight.
I eat stuff just like a normal person should. Bread in the morning. Noodles or rice in the afternoon. Rice in the night. Just that im skinny thats all. I remembered from my medical checkup that everything falls in the normal range. Only problem is my weight is not acceptable thats all.
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People who are overweight will admit that they're eating too much junk People who are skinny can't face the fact that they're not eating well enough.
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Originally posted by isoboney:
The doctor just said that everything is fine. Just downgrade from PES A to PES BL1 because im underweight. Some of my friends were also downgraded to BL1 because of weight.
I eat stuff just like a normal person should. Bread in the morning. Noodles or rice in the afternoon. Rice in the night. Just that im skinny thats all. I remembered from my medical checkup that everything falls in the normal range. Only problem is my weight is not acceptable thats all.
It's relative. A concrete amount would be more accurate.
E.g. 10kg might be heavy to someone, but it's light to me. So basically, saying something is heavy or light doesn't give any indication of it's weight at all.
I have a friend who tells me he eats a lot, but he has no idea why he is still skinny. When I see the amount he eats, it isn't a lot at all.
On top of that, the type of food you eat is important. It's not just about bread or noodles or rice. Being too generic doesn't help at all.
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Example, something less generic than just saying bread for breakfast, rice and noodles for lunch...
My usual weekday meals:
Breakfast: 1 full plate of economic bee hoon (sometimes fried rice) with 1 serving of cabbage and 1 egg
Pre lunch (not done today though): 1 protein shake down after a noon workout.
Lunch: Rice (1 full bowl) with 2 servings of meat and 1 serving of vege.
Mid day snack: depends. Sometimes 1 serving of papaya, sometimes 1 meat bun, sometimes nothing
Dinner: Rice (1 full bowl) with lots of vege, and perhaps 2~3 chicken drumsticks/thighs
Supper: depends on whether workout a lot that day. Might boil 3 eggs to eat.
If I want to summarize, I could say just bee hoon for breakfast, noodles or rice for lunch and dinner, with some supper. I eat normally. ==> how does that sound?
Trying to exercise without eating sufficiently is akin to driving a car without enough petrol in it. Unless you want your body to breakdown, I don't see why you would do that.