Chivalry - Is it still alive?
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Girls, do you still see chivalry being exhibited nowadays? Are you being treated like a lady, and how?
Guys, do you think u are a gentleman? In wat ways?? -
Yes.
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If u are expecting those like of the knight in the medieval age, it long gone. But if u mean those in the form of courtesy's manner display by gentlemen, well not all hope is lost. When is they last time you heard parent teaching or inspired their son to be chivalrous?
I seldom see guys open doors for ger when boarding taxi or even hold the door open for ger to pass by. If most guys here can't even display the basic courtesy, what are the chances that u find men that had quality like bravery and honour as well. After all, what constituted to the knighthood code of chivalry are; bravery, courtesy, honour, and gallantry toward women.
I believe that the idea of chivalry are still around. Just not in singapore. -
I seldom see guys opening doors for ladies or display basic courtesy. Very seldom, but not NONE of coz.Originally posted by EarlNeo:If u are expecting those like of the knight in the medieval age, it long gone. But if u mean those in the form of courtesy's manner display by gentlemen, well not all hope is lost. When is they last time you heard parent teaching or inspired their son to be chivalrous?
I seldom see guys open doors for ger when boarding taxi or even hold the door open for ger to pass by. If most guys here can't even display the basic courtesy, what are the chances that u find men that had quality like bravery and honour as well. After all, what constituted to the knighthood code of chivalry are; bravery, courtesy, honour, and gallantry toward women.
I believe that the idea of chivalry are still around. Just not in singapore.
At least I know my brothers are chivalrous. If in those martial arts days or medieval age like u said, I think they will be pugilist leaders or knights liao le.
But really sad to know that alot of guys dun practice chivalry anymore. Maybe only to the girl that they are interested in.
i'm glad to know a handful who still practices and believes in chivalry.
Sometimes Girls also spoil market. Take these actions for granted or doesn't even show a tinge of appreciation.
Is not that I have something against Sg girls. But sometimes, we really brought it upon ourselves. -
Too many automatic doors in SingaporeOriginally posted by Nata|ie:I seldom see guys opening doors for ladies or display basic courtesy. Very seldom, but not NONE of coz.
Anyway, in Singapore sometimes you don't get the appreciative 'thank you'. Feel sian sometimes. -
cause and effect.
effect and cause.
my mother tell me not to hold doors for those guai lan people, whom after passing thru the door give you the death stare.
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and aiyo, hold doors for charbo only meh?
chivalry sounds sexist.
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Do you think u r a gentleman ?
NO
In wat ways u r not a gentleman ?
Either she kill me or I kill her...
In Singapore, we practice "male and female are equal" legally and ethically. I will be more worrying on myself (wat a female can do to me) than worrying on her ( wat other people can do to her)
There are so much much much other people like old people, handicap, small kids, to place concern in the society than females alone .... -
the whole idea is discrimination against males mah.Originally posted by seow:and aiyo, hold doors for charbo only meh?
chivalry sounds sexist. -
Exactly. It's just doesn't seem worth it to be "chivalrous" anymore in this age, as nobody really appreciates it.Originally posted by Nata|ie:Sometimes Girls also spoil market. Take these actions for granted or doesn't even show a tinge of appreciation.
Is not that I have something against Sg girls. But sometimes, we really brought it upon ourselves. -
Me thinks women are very observant of little things, so even if they don't show their appreciation for small gestures outwardly, they're still taking note.Originally posted by dakkon_blackblade:Exactly. It's just doesn't seem worth it to be "chivalrous" anymore in this age, as nobody really appreciates it.
I think men should keep up with it, being chivalrous to 'unappreciative' women doesn't mean you're seeking approval from her, just shows you're too cultured to be rude.
It's nothing to do with the woman, more to do with yourself?
Just my 2 cents worth.
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For me, i think its more important to help a small children or old people rather than woman. Maybe i am too practical
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It is there only if the gers want it, but apparently even the gers do not want it....Originally posted by Nata|ie:Girls, do you still see chivalry being exhibited nowadays? Are you being treated like a lady, and how?
Guys, do you think u are a gentleman? In wat ways?? -
Let's move with the times.
When women want to speak of equality with men, then better walk the talk.
So many women are initiating marriages with men now, really don't understand this chivalry thing. -
I still like men who practive chivalry. And I dun agree that men and women are equal.
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OK dear, whatever you say, dear...Originally posted by Nata|ie:I still like men who practive chivalry. And I dun agree that men and women are equal. -
Not all good guys are extinct... One rare one is here!
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Yes, men and women are not equal. What I detest are those women who argue that men and women are equal and yet demand "special treatment" for themselves.Originally posted by Nata|ie:I still like men who practive chivalry. And I dun agree that men and women are equal. -
Females claimed they are equal to men. But they expect you to pay for a meal, open doors for them, send them home, etc. Some expect you to do her share of work for them! When you say no (furiously), they'll spread news around the whole office saying that this guy is so petty, joking only mah. When you say no (politely), they'll spread news around the whole office saying that this guy is so un-gentleman.Originally posted by Nata|ie:Girls, do you still see chivalry being exhibited nowadays? Are you being treated like a lady, and how?
Guys, do you think u are a gentleman? In wat ways??
When u open doors for them (own experience, last time go lunch at the raffles place Arcade, downstairs got banquet foodcourt, it's not auto-doors) they dun appreciate it. Some stared at u like you're a clown.
Even on MRTs, I give my seat to the elderly, sometimes to young ladies who seems to be bloug down by bags. Some elderly just sit as if I had owed them in my pastlife. Some ladies just stared. knns
Perhaps the ladies brought it upon themselves. Claim that guys are not gentlemen and yet when someone does gentlemen stuff, they stared, dun show appreciation, and give the rude haughty look. -
yup. you couldn't have put it better.Originally posted by dakkon_blackblade:Yes, men and women are not equal. What I detest are those women who argue that men and women are equal and yet demand "special treatment" for themselves.
Did you see restaurant customers, who went in to have dinner, and, after experiencing a very good service from the staff, immediately raised their standards? And for some reason most of these increasing expectations are females.
I predict that when a guy treats them well, they'll immediately raise their standards.
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Since we're on the topic on women:
My only discourse is, why we have to slam the bathroom door shut very loudly. Gives you a heart attack while you're taking a crap. Especially the ones in PS and cineleisure. Apart from that Singaporean chicks are lovely. -
This could be why men are generally more well paid than women. Evens out the equation.Originally posted by airgrinder:Females claimed they are equal to men. But they expect you to pay for a meal, open doors for them, send them home, etc. Some expect you to do her share of work for them! When you say no (furiously), they'll spread news around the whole office saying that this guy is so petty, joking only mah. When you say no (politely), they'll spread news around the whole office saying that this guy is so un-gentleman.
When u open doors for them (own experience, last time go lunch at the raffles place Arcade, downstairs got banquet foodcourt, it's not auto-doors) they dun appreciate it. Some stared at u like you're a clown.
Even on MRTs, I give my seat to the elderly, sometimes to young ladies who seems to be bloug down by bags. Some elderly just sit as if I had owed them in my pastlife. Some ladies just stared. knns
Perhaps the ladies brought it upon themselves. Claim that guys are not gentlemen and yet when someone does gentlemen stuff, they stared, dun show appreciation, and give the rude haughty look.
Sometimes when we offer to pay, they refuse to let you pay. Ok maybe first time you offer, out of courtesy as males, they decline (no idea if it's ego or just being gentlemanly).
When moving towards the door, I let them pass, they give me one kind of look. -
the mindset of chivalry changes after time.
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Its well alive in yours truly
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it's dead..
when people ask why we must be courteous and do good for others and what is in it for them, it's dead...