Chinese better than Malays in Soccer!
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Hi all, just wanna know your views....to this sensitive topic...heeehee...
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Chinese are always the best soccer players around,malays will not achieve much in soccer!
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huh?
if that is so how come i see so many Malay soccer players in the S-League?
generally i think dark skinned races are better at sports and games ...think NBA and track and field events.... :p -
hav u all ever wondered y Singapore soccer team is so fuck up????
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?¿?¿?¿?¿Ho^sei^bo?¿?¿?¿? -
I think all black players in America are good, no offence against them, BUT my target is against our local SOCCER players who are mostly malays, which I feel should be brought to balance, cos from what I've seen, most soccer trials held here for the S-League clubs, the Choosers are ALL Malays, so they tend to be biase in choosing only malay players, even if they play like SHIT!
As for some Chinese players who plays very well, they can't even get past the first round.....
So, should FAS and S-league still adopt this system of selecting malays as the choosers of soccer trials, THEY will never succeed in Goal 2010, cos they look down on Chinese which I feel that it just isn't fair, even more when they just axed nationals like Steven Tan and Lim Tong Hai....
I am proud to be a Chinese and I will always stand up for Chinses soccer players... -
I think all black players in America are good, no offence against them, BUT my target is against our local SOCCER players who are mostly malays, which I feel should be brought to balance, cos from what I've seen, most soccer trials held here for the S-League clubs, the Choosers are ALL Malays, so they tend to be biase in choosing only malay players, even if they play like SHIT!
As for some Chinese players who plays very well, they can't even get past the first round.....
So, should FAS and S-league still adopt this system of selecting malays as the choosers of soccer trials, THEY will never succeed in Goal 2010, cos they look down on Chinese which I feel that it just isn't fair, even more when they just axed nationals like Steven Tan and Lim Tong Hai....
I am proud to be a Chinese and I will always stand up for Chinese soccer players... -
speaking from personal experience, generally speaking, the malays i've played with are better than the chinese. and i've played with many. many many. they have more balance and better ball sense. better technical skills too. they know when to move, when to stay and how to support you. there are a few good chinese players i know of, but few are good team players. the malays understand that soccer is a team game. they pass the ball better. i used to play with toh choon ming. honestly he wasn't that great. and now he's in the national team! you have to look at many things when u select a player. you may be very skilled but if you are not a team player you won't be selected. if your style of play doesn't fit the coach's game plan, you won't be selected either. if u have a screwed up attitude you won't be picked. so there are many things to consider.
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Well,simple ans 2 the simple qn i asked 'y is Singapore soccer team so fucked up?'--cos most of the players r malays...
Not being racist here,but i do tink 'ere r plenty of talented chinese players around.y 'ere r more malays in local soccer scene?cos palyin profesional soccer in S'pore is not really beri practical,most of us chinese will rather choose 2 study & get a cert instead of riskin our future 2 try get in2 the national team.Even if one do get in2 the national squad,the prospect ain't gd not like in foreign countries like England,Italy....tis xplains y 'ere r more malays playin professional soccer here,not b'cos they r better....
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?¿?¿?¿?¿Ho^sei^bo?¿?¿?¿? -
English players r the BEST!!!
FnU
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no...if u r tokin abt global...watch out 4 the Spainiacs,c how they defeat tha italians, simply brilliant....
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?¿?¿?¿?¿Ho^sei^bo?¿?¿?¿? -
what a load of ignorant would-be racist remarks here.
Suzi: generally i think dark skinned races are better at sports and games
muneric: I think all black players in America are good,
does being of a darker shade of brown or black suddenly make you a god of sport? have you thought of sociological reasons as to why they are generally better? like the type of games available to them? basketball in the ghettos of america are everywhere because its a social sport, a social activity, cheap and the geographical centrepiece in the hoods for social relations. as such, with so much exposure to the courts is it any wonder why there are so many blacks in the NBA, unlike say the ATP?
as for malays in football (i hate it when they call it soccer) the game is available to them for similar reasons. also, traditional games like sepak takral compliment football skills and techniques.
skin colour has NOTHING to do with it.
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Thou' I'm a Chinese, I tink the Malays deserve my vote. Even young Malay kids have better ball sense n better control than Chinese kids.
1 of the reason is due family influences. Chinese parents seldom encourage their sons 2 take up soccer(partly fear of injuries), most of them wanted them 2 pick up instruments, swimming or indoor games such as bowling. So, by the time the kid started playing football, the Malay kid has alredi been well-trained in this sport.
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well...i am a chinese soccer player...n i personally think that malays n chinese have their own strength...malays usually have more ball sense more ball skills...but they r one hell of a lazy lot n they r beri attack minded...chinese on the other hand r the more determined pple n will work much harder for the team...take a look at most of the sleague chinese players most r either defensive midfielders stoppers man man markers or ball winners...think ong leong koen from gambak...goh tat chuan from jurong roy yeo from marine...tong hai from TP... kim leng from SAF...tan wee seng n tan sio beng from balestier...maybe except toh choon ming from gambak who is a striker...the other players r added to the team to give more bite to the team ...malays have more skills simply bcoz they play the game almost everyday when they r young...not being racist here...but chinese families put much more emphasise on education than malay families n that's y a lot of chinese promising youngsters drop out of the game when faced between the books n the ball...as for lots of malay coaches selecting malays instead of other races...i do believe there is a certain amt of truth in it....not saying that all coaches r like that though...
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sunnyday:Originally posted by sunnyday:...but chinese families put much more emphasise on education than malay families n that's y a lot of chinese promising youngsters drop out of the game when faced between the books n the ball...as for lots of malay coaches selecting malays instead of other races...i do believe there is a certain amt of truth in it....not saying that all coaches r like that though...
tha's the best quote in tis thread,really sums up the entire argument.
Well,it's really not a qn of malays or chineses being better in soccer, but rather who is given more opportunities,i suppose....
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?¿?¿?¿?¿Ho^sei^bo?¿?¿?¿? -
Malays are definetly not any better than chinese in SOCCER. Chinese are often not seen in Singapore teams becos they know that playing in a singapore national team is futureless. There is no future for them. Singapore is a nation held tightly by educational qualifications. Thus all promising young chinese opt out of playing for nationals and instead future their studies......
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AYWA...
Why you all have to categorise people by race?
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Hey..Singapore National team or the S-League are not make up Chinese or Malay only. What about our compatriots..the Indian and the Eurasian. The foreigners? Please..try not to be myopic in your view to see the whole picture.
To achieved GOAL 2010..the Singapore Sport Council are willing to import foreign talents into football. They will be given PR status and trains at a very young age. And they are going to be the future representatives of our National team for the qualification of World Cup. Our local boys were have to compete with them..irregardless whether you are of what race. It is irrelevant whether you are a good Chinese or Malay football player. Are you as good as the foreign talent? -
tommy...regarding the goal 2010...all i can say is...well...4get it...
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sunnydaY.. i second u lah... maybe if they change the nos to 2100 , they MIGHT be able lah... `~~!!!!
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Ok here are my views:
First of all I wont go on arguing on Malay better or Chinese better cause I find it a damn kok thing to argue abt.
Moreover heres what I think that would make the best Singapore team.
Starting with the Chinese: They make the best central defenders, defensive mids and goalies. No offence but technique(footwork) wise the Indians and Malays r much better. Also Chinese have the better built and they r more gutsy. They seem to be able to jump higher(basketball?) too.
With the Malays: They make the best wing backs, playmakers and forwards. Malays have this "natural" sense of the ball and they read the game better than the other races. Malays arnt usually big size so thats y they r better of playing in these positions. Malays have better pace then the other races as well but stamina wise its not too impressive.
With the Indians: They make the perfect wingers. Indians r usually fast, have lots of stamina and most importantly they like to dribble and they r gd at it. So y waste the talent here?
Not forgetting the Eurasians: Not many Eurasians have broke into the soccer scene here but from my view they make the best centre forwards and central defenders. With the ang moh blood they r usually also bigger in size which makes them hard to shake off.
These r just my views and I'm not trying to offend anyone. They may be some chinese who r gd at dribbling and stuffs or malays that r big size but this is just my general view. After playing football for like 10 yrs but was forced to quit(a damn bad toe injury), thats what I observed in our local football scene. And the reason why the standard of the S-League is not as great as other Asian leagues is because our players dont have the fire power and motivation. Remember the gd old Malaysia Cup days, Singapore was like very much feared by the other teams and we usually have a gd chance of beating the Thai national team in SEA Games then. But look at us now, ever since we broke off from Malaysia cup, the standard of football have been decreasing as there is no motivation and will to succeed in it. As for the 2010 thingy, all I can say is let us win the SEA games gold first. Then win the Asian Cup. Then we can think of the World Cup. Singapore FA needs someone who can lead us to these success. And the man who I think is suitable for the job must be someone local but with overseas experience, maybe Fandi Ahmad or Sundramoorthy. Foreigners usually only wants money and thats it.
Peace,
SpookyKid
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Sunnyday and plunkY..my view of Goal 2010 is the same as both of you. The SSC is not likely to achieved it within such short span of time. But the groundwork got be carry out..in order for them to do the rest. A stepping stone. The idea was 'mooted out' by our PM Goh during his National Day speech.
As for who is the better player..it all voice down to whether are you committed and passionate to football. Fandi Ahmad is one player we look up to..not only for his football skill, but also his attitude on and off the field. A role model for the youngsters to follow. For Sundramoothy..he is good too....no question about it. How come he is not in the National team? Your guess is as good as mine.
As for which race to play in which position..it is all absurd! During our parents time..we have chinese attacking forwards like the Quah's brothers . The defenders and midfielders were Samad Alitpichay, Mohammed Nor and others.. the goalkeeper was a eurasian by the name of Eric Paine. Football is a team game. The coach (experience) is the only person from outside the field who is able to put the various people into their appropriate roles...or his 'head' is going to be on the chopping block.
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Sometimes I wonder what's the difference between the S-League and the M-League.
Well, next time if there's a match between China and Malaysia,watch it and then we'll know if the Chinese or the Malays or better! Hee! -
Hahaha..that will not be the Chinese against the Malay..but the Chinese against the Malaysian...don't get it wrong. *winks*