arsenal the unvincible team of EPL
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No probs.. Reyes... of coz.. i noe u meant no offense..
we are all here to discuss abt the beautiful game
and as much as i dun like arsenal.. i haf to admit the Gunners have been playing the most entertaining and exciting football for a season and more...
but maybe it is the fear factor.. alot of teams gave up even b4 they played arsenal... anyway , kudos to bolton for a storming performance..
and how abt that celebration from Pedersen .. Bird man !!! cool !!
and for mourinho whining abt Tottenham.. look who's talking now... i tot he said b4 that results come 1st... style comes 2nd... a very sore loser... looks like he is goin to become Fergie no.2
And lastly.. sorri.. haf to say this... Yippee !! We beat our old nemesis !! 2-1 !!
Rio has been brilliant !!
kekekeke.. no offense to any liverpool fans.. (ermmm.. is there any ??) -
Arse na! Arse Na! Arse Na is not yet defeated since last season.
Arsehole Wanker and his Goners are coming down town. Wait till the boys at White Hart Lane slap their faces! Woooo I hope Arse Na get relegated (this season is still possible but likelihood is near to zero.)
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Sorry to say this: MOURINHO, U SUCK!Originally posted by justin_12345:and for mourinho whining abt Tottenham.. look who's talking now... i tot he said b4 that results come 1st... style comes 2nd... a very sore loser... looks like he is goin to become Fergie no.2
t( ' . ' t)
Spurs is playing football, NOT attacking football. Losers are sore, losers are blue.
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arsenal... when are they gonna lose
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With more respect to Arsenal as a team.
Good football? Yes.
Invincible? No. (you have been defeated in Champs league. You can still be defeated. Just that most EPL team aren't as strong.)
Invincible at EPL? Nah, no straight wins, nor stop conceding goals. That's far from perfect.
The best team currently in EPL? Yes, very much yes. The most impressive to date. -
Maybe at White Hart Lane.Originally posted by extremex:arsenal... when are they gonna lose
More likely at Old Trafford.
Even more likely at Stamford Bridge.
Other possibilities: St. James Park, Anfield, The Riverside Stadium -
Nelstar,
With more respect to Arsenal as a team.
Good football? Yes.
Invincible? No. (you have been defeated in Champs league. You can still be defeated. Just that most EPL team aren't as strong.)
Invincible at EPL? Nah, no straight wins, nor stop conceding goals. That's far from perfect.
The best team currently in EPL? Yes, very much yes. The most impressive to date.
of coz no team can go unbeaten for years. it will happen but not sure when. but even we got beaten it will help to relieve stress on the player have to carry as the unbeaten and every team will like to beat them.
there is no perfect teams. even good teams have off days. But the good thing i like about current arsenal team even on off day cant be beaten as yet. yes we have a bad game against PSV and bolten but we beaten PSV and draw bolten.
man utd mans dont be dishearted. last game against liverpool seem like a good display. but man utd problems hasnt stop yet. keane could be going jail soon. gary neveille is out. but Rio and rooney could be back. somehow i feel rooney will unbalance the whole man utd team. hope that im a wrong. i looking for a good match between arsenal, man utd, chelsea. may the good team win!!!
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Arsenal is the best!
they don't play boring football like red devils and spurs. -
Arse Na! Arse Na~ Arse Na Na Na~~~Originally posted by 798:Arsenal is the best!
they don't play boring football like red devils and spurs. -
Boring football ??? i wouldn't exactly said that man u played boring football... maybe u should recall the days when arsenal was under george graham. those 1-0s... or u nt supporting arsenal at that time ?Originally posted by 798:Arsenal is the best!
they don't play boring football like red devils and spurs.
as for spurs... although they didn't play attractive football at stamford bridge.. they have been producing relatively good football since the start of the season.. wonder what league u are watching ???
maybe u r a gooner.. that's why u criticise arsenal's "enemies" .... but kindly do it the right way... if u want boring football , go n watch birmingham or crystal palace play.. rest assured that u will be asleep by half time ! -
so any tips for the game between Man City and Arsenal?
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They have defence problem....
just look at the 2-2 draw with Bolton. Because Henry and gang has been keeping the opponent's defence too busy.... -
Ars is really the best at the moment, ManU is improving a little, Chelsea has been lucky winning games with a goal margin, and liverpool has been below par-standard..
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no no....the new arsenal (under wenger) is not boring, must remember that aresnal was once known as boring boring arsenal coz of their 1-0s win. In fact that's the way Spurs and Chelsea are currently playing. Boring but it's effective, coz end of the day the 3 points is the most important thing but 3 goalsOriginally posted by 798:Arsenal is the best!
they don't play boring football like red devils and spurs. -
Yes
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so u a man u fan? now then u appear! finally decided to come out after hiding yourself for so long? such a great supporter ah?Originally posted by justin_12345:Boring football ??? i wouldn't exactly said that man u played boring football... maybe u should recall the days when arsenal was under george graham. those 1-0s... or u nt supporting arsenal at that time ?
as for spurs... although they didn't play attractive football at stamford bridge.. they have been producing relatively good football since the start of the season.. wonder what league u are watching ???
maybe u r a gooner.. that's why u criticise arsenal's "enemies" .... but kindly do it the right way... if u want boring football , go n watch birmingham or crystal palace play.. rest assured that u will be asleep by half time ! -
i am not an arsenal fan but frankly, they are playing very well again this season. i am not surprise if they go unbeaten again. it's always entertaining to watch them play although i hope liverpool will play like them...:-)
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kekekkekeke.. yap.. i m man u fan... but i think i haf been posting msgs even when man u scraped to draws against blackburn n bolton...Originally posted by 798:so u a man u fan? now then u appear! finally decided to come out after hiding yourself for so long? such a great supporter ah?
btw... i dun think i m hiding bah.. nothing to hide also... lose lose lor...
anyway.. nt here to quarrel abt being a man u fan or not... no point... -
im back, recently Arsenal suffer a drop in confidence and form. in fact for those arsenal die hard fans, you would probably know the reason for that. of course some say it is the physiological defeat against man utd. but i beg to defer to just narrow the reason as that.
it is due to the injury cause to Gilberto and Sol campbell. Gilberto play a similar role as makele of chelsea operating right in front of the central defender providing first line of defence and additional defender when it require. with him injured, vieira often has to run around the pitch making tackles and thus resticting him to support the front players. fabregas is non gilberto, no doubt he is hrdworking but he cant provide that cover for the central defender as he like to go forward. with sol campbell out, the central defender was even more expose with few cover that why arsenal often lack cover in the middle of the park when crosses start coming in.
i would strongly propose wenger to relook at this strategy while waiting for the gilberto and campbell to return as follows:
1.Lehmann-- no choice, but we need better goalkeep than him soon.
2.Toure :
3.cygan: no choice
4.Lauren: right back
5.ashley cole.: left back
6.vieira : central midfield
7.Lunjberg: right midfield
8.henry : striker
9. Reyes/pires :right attacking midfield and provid support to henry.
10. Fabregas : attacking midfielder, providing support to the wing men.
11. Edu : central midfield with Vieira, relief pressure off vieira.
these formation will not weaken the arsenal attacks through both wings attack but the the same time will pack the central midfield with fabregas, edu and vieira. not only it will provide some cover for the central defender and slow down attack from the middle and tough tackling from vieira and edu.
my choice : 4- 5-1 (in absence of campbell of gilberto).
wenger please consider my suggestion. only when the midfield is stable, tight, will we stop the defensive leakage. -
4-5-1 and 4-4-2 dun make a diff to me at all .. the 1 in 4-5-1 is a striker while one of the 5 confirm a midfield cum striker .. while 4-4-2 a striker will have to drop a lilttle sometimes ..
yeah arsenal play good football recently .. jealous man .. hehe .. but man utd used to be like that also in the 90s .. there's up and down in football .. liverpool do that in the 80s .. maybe now is arsenal turn .. whatever it is .. please dun give chelsea a damn chance to win any title .. only know how to buy buy players from anywhere .. pity those good players in their reserves .. spend money wisely lah .. money not precious to them meh just becoz they rich .. be like arsenal lah spend 20 millions on reyes .. or man utd spend 20+million on rooney or liverpool buying cisse .. just on certain players in a few positions will do .. not the whole team leh ..
come on arsenal, man utd, liverpool!!!! dun give chelsea a damnnnnn chance !!!
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hi chillz,
it does make a difference in formation whether it is 4-5-1 or 4-4-2. else there no reason to set up formation at all.
4-5-1 is to deal stiffen up the midfield esp against creative midfield team and to protect the defence better. of course it will hinder the attack abit and will rely more on counter attack. of course i dont favour arsenal use this tactics when we are at full strength. but this could be a solution in the absence of gilberto, campbell in the lineup. both are key man in the defensive midfield role and a pivot in central defence.
I dont like chelsea too, but in view of their current form and how they play in europe, i think they now stand a higher chance than arsenal in winning the premier league. i hope when arsenal play chelsea in few weeks ahead, we can at least have campbell back in the defence. and gilberto recover soon.
to be frank too, man utd need to play a little more sportmanship when we meet again in league cup QF. dont resort to diving, stamping of the legs to win games. the team wont get any better.
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It's the physical side of English football, mayb it doesn't look pretty but it's sure effective, jus ask Sam Alladynce of Bolton n Ian Dowie of Crystal Palace. Ur comment on Man U is fair, perhaps they did went overboard, but Arsenal has shown that they wasn't able 2 cope with the hardball tactics that Man U 1st employ, at least the young players like Reyes n Fabregas. That's why a lot of teams started using blanket defence n close down the spaces to choke the creative players Arsenal have.Originally posted by reyes:hi chillz,
it does make a difference in formation whether it is 4-5-1 or 4-4-2. else there no reason to set up formation at all.
4-5-1 is to deal stiffen up the midfield esp against creative midfield team and to protect the defence better. of course it will hinder the attack abit and will rely more on counter attack. of course i dont favour arsenal use this tactics when we are at full strength. but this could be a solution in the absence of gilberto, campbell in the lineup. both are key man in the defensive midfield role and a pivot in central defence.
I dont like chelsea too, but in view of their current form and how they play in europe, i think they now stand a higher chance than arsenal in winning the premier league. i hope when arsenal play chelsea in few weeks ahead, we can at least have campbell back in the defence. and gilberto recover soon.
to be frank too, man utd need to play a little more sportmanship when we meet again in league cup QF. dont resort to diving, stamping of the legs to win games. the team wont get any better.
May the best form team of the day win always!!!
One thing that Man U n Arsenal lacks currently is a settled defence like that of Chelsea. That's a pre-requsite of Championship winning team. Look at the goal against column of all 3 teams n u get the picture.
The 2nd point is Man U is going through a goal drought 4 all it's strikers except Van Nisterooy n the midfield is also not contributing. At least teams don't play defensive against Man U since it's defence can b dodgy at times.
Arsenal faced a complete different set of problems as compared 2 Man U. Teams tends 2 clamp up when playing Arsenal as seen by Crystal Palace. Then try 2 hit Arsenal on the counterattacks with fast players. With the current setup, unless Arsenal score 1st, there's plenty of draws staring at Arsenal since their goals has also dried up n with their current dodgy defence, they r bound 2 concede the odd goal from setpieces.
3rd n final point, the squad depth of both Arsenal n Man U pales in comparison to Chelsea. When the going get's tough, Mourinho can look at his bench n find an assortment of players. This is a luxury that Arsenal n Man U cannot afford at present. There4 unless Chelsea suffer a complete loss of form in it's defence n upfront and also major injuries to key players, they r in the driving seat of EPL for this season n the title is their's to lose.
All Arsenal n Man U can do is win their games, especially the head-to-head against Chelsea n hope for the best.