P5 student commited suicide
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Originally posted by youyayu:
nono..
i feel sad for the kid.. not the parents.
apparently you are still a kid yourself, parents raise children, naturally it hurts them most....to be blaming parents for adding stress is also totally unwarranted...good parents want their children to lead better lives and good education provides for that. not all children are made the same, some require more discipline than others..
you want to see stress free kids, there are plenty who roam around chilling out, dropping out of schools and getting into trouble, that's stress free...
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From all the replies, i can conclude:
1) Ask what your child wants
2) Ask what is stopping your child from reaching your expectations
3) Provide help when necessary
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frankly, i'm surprised there aren't more cases out there..
look at the bloody parents out there.. wtf is going on?
they have tuition for KINDERGARTEN!!!
i am not shitting you!!
WTF??
then i know of children who never have time to play, to do greasy kid stuff, because every moment of their time is spent either on homework or parent-enforced tuition, classes, goodness knows what..
"best for the child"
bullshit...
do not blame the system.. schools are not a surrogate for good parenting..
blame the kiasu, kiasi, kiabo parents who drive their children to insane stresses... and turn their children into horrific little sociopaths which grow up to be horrific grown-up sociopaths which propagate the cycle...
so, their dogma of hothousing ran over their karma..
the child pays for it..
within there is a lesson for every parent.. but most can't even be bothered to learn anything because they're too busy chasing their own "dreams" which are in reality nightmares...
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I'm sure there are thousands of unreported attempted suicides and hundreds of suicidal deaths a year.
The papers can't be reporting everything.
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lolx exam stress again ...
P5 onli learn to commited suicide ...
too much stress from exam and parents lia0 -
Originally posted by Jiani:
hey, just to infrom you, I am not the person who commit suicide. The incident happen quite near me in BLK 241
Sif whole singapore onli 1 blk 241
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Originally posted by the Bear:
frankly, i'm surprised there aren't more cases out there..
look at the bloody parents out there.. wtf is going on?
they have tuition for KINDERGARTEN!!!
i am not shitting you!!
WTF??
then i know of children who never have time to play, to do greasy kid stuff, because every moment of their time is spent either on homework or parent-enforced tuition, classes, goodness knows what..
"best for the child"
bullshit...
do not blame the system.. schools are not a surrogate for good parenting..
blame the kiasu, kiasi, kiabo parents who drive their children to insane stresses... and turn their children into horrific little sociopaths which grow up to be horrific grown-up sociopaths which propagate the cycle...
so, their dogma of hothousing ran over their karma..
the child pays for it..
within there is a lesson for every parent.. but most can't even be bothered to learn anything because they're too busy chasing their own "dreams" which are in reality nightmares...
No more childhood games ..
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This news was in the papers already... The education system seems to be flawed.
Few years ago opposite my block, there's a primary 6 girl who jumped to her death when she failed to score excellent grades that her parents expect her to.
I remember she lied saying she scored 261 for her PSLE when in fact she score 216.
(Cmon, 216 is good already!!! I only scored 206)
I bet her parents must be regretting putting so much pressure on their daughters!
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It is sad to hear that a life is lost due to exam stress. The root cause is social pressures. Since we were young, we were drilled to be the BEST, be COMPETITIVE, be PRODUCTIVE! To be less than the BEST is considered FAILURE.
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Originally posted by Pillowfrens:
It is sad to hear that a life is lost due to exam stress. The root cause is social pressures. Since we were young, we were drilled to be the BEST, be COMPETITIVE, be PRODUCTIVE! To be less than the BEST is considered FAILURE.
who drilled them?can't blame society if the parents make the choice not to let them be pressured..
can't blame the school because they are not surrogate parents to the children
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Originally posted by the Bear:
who drilled them?the school
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kids brain nowadays easily corrupted. rmber the five "geniuses" thinks that when they jump down they can save the world... sigh!! not sure wat exactly happen to this P5 kid but the most common things that can happen is probably exam stress or parents nagging or friends abaddon him etc etc
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double post.... the awesome of lagness
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Originally posted by fireng:
the school
so.. your parents left the parenting to your school?my condolences
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blame society
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Originally posted by Jianye:
From all the replies, i can conclude:
1) Ask what your child wants
2) Ask what is stopping your child from reaching your expectations
3) Provide help when necessary
Quite concisely, you've listed down one of the ways such an event can be prevented.
Unfortunately, familiarity breeds contempt within the family, and we take each other's presence for granted.
Quite sad that for some, it's only when death gives a visit that we stop and ponder such things.
Anyway, no use blaming, won't bring back what's lost. Hope the parents of the kid can accept the loss and get the right support from society.
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Originally posted by the Bear:
who drilled them?can't blame society if the parents make the choice not to let them be pressured..
can't blame the school because they are not surrogate parents to the children
We have to see what makes the parents that kiasu or kiasi, it all boils down to society right? And also the MOE's system, the system's based on meritocratic system where poor grades are look down by companies, people wont employ you or look you down.....Its all that shlt that makes parents kiasu......the goverment didnt quite do their job in "educating" the industries, system, society etc to be more baring towards one another and to see everyone as the same and give everyone opportunities.
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Originally posted by nightzip:
We have to see what makes the parents that kiasu or kiasi, it all boils down to society right? And also the MOE's system, the system's based on meritocratic system where poor grades are look down by companies, people wont employ you or look you down.....Its all that shlt that makes parents kiasu......the goverment didnt quite do their job in "educating" the industries, system, society etc to be more baring towards one another and to see everyone as the same and give everyone opportunities.
nope.. the parents are ADULTS
they make their own decisions...
no one put a gun to their heads to pressure their children or to chase the lies of materialism
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Yup...you may be right. But we know that parents would want the best for their child I believe. They would want them to be successful in their life and thus deem such work is required for them to do well.
But if even society condones this, then this is truly partial fault of the Singaporean Society.
What I mean is that.....what has MOE (or the government) done to alleviate this predicament or issue? The only time they did was to do away with Pri3 streaming which helps. Other than that? What did MOE do to alleviate exam stress? Do they have pre-exam stress counselling? seminar for students to prepare mentally and psychologically for examinations? How to mitigate the stresses? Do they have parents/students/teacher gathering to also brief and work with parents on stress management?
There is a whole shlt out there that MOE can do to prevent/reduce such sad incidents from happening. So, is the parent more experience or the school more experience with kids? A school with teachers having more than 20 over years experience on teaching and working with students or a parent where his/her only experience is his/her first kid where he/she has the only single experience of bringing up 1 single kid.
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Originally posted by dukedracula:
apparently you are still a kid yourself, parents raise children, naturally it hurts them most....to be blaming parents for adding stress is also totally unwarranted...good parents want their children to lead better lives and good education provides for that. not all children are made the same, some require more discipline than others..
you want to see stress free kids, there are plenty who roam around chilling out, dropping out of schools and getting into trouble, that's stress free...
hey kid, but obviously stress till commit sucide?
i believe the kid need to have stress but not all kids can take stress, not all kids can reach the standard their parents want and yet the parents force them.
stress your kid also need to be at balance!
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Originally posted by youyayu:
hey kid, but obviously stress till commit sucide?
i believe the kid need to have stress but not all kids can take stress, not all kids can reach the standard their parents want and yet the parents force them.
stress your kid also need to be at balance!
Yes, so the school/MOE should take the lead to provide counselling - what I mean is PRE-counselling, not Post-counselling when something has happened already.As busy parents it will be difficult for them to take the lead, schools should have pre-exam seminars or talks conducted etc to educate and teach them the proper methods of motivating kids, not using wrong methods etc that stress them with less improved outcome.
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Primary 5 boy falls to his death
An 11-year-old boy fell to his death yesterday afternoon.
The Primary 5 pupil from Sengkang Primary School is understood to have gone to a nearby block of flats after school and fallen from the 16th floor.
He was found in his school uniform at the foot of Block 241, Compassvale Walk at around 4.15pm. MediaCorp understands that he lived at Block 236. His parents could not be reached for comment, but some who knew the boy described him as being stressed by impending exams.
When MediaCorp visited the school at 9pm, the principal and several staff members were still there. Principal Lew-Lim Lau Chin said: "We can't comment further because police investigations are ongoing. But he was a good student. We are all very sorry for the loss." Police are investigating the unnatural death. TEO XUANWEIhttp://www.todayonline.com/Singapore/EDC091015-0000121/Primary-5-boy-falls-to-his-death
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poor boy...
=( just gone like that..
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My parents in law live in that block, one unit over from where he fell. He went over at the rubbish chute, but really it was no fall, as the wall is almost two metres tall at that point. Had to climb up first.
Poor kid. Stress is the impetus for these kinds of acts, but the blame rests solely on poor communication.
As has already been stated, one level of stress can bring out the best in one person, whilst decreasing performance in another. It is the responsibility of the parent to teach their child moderation in all things.
Relying on the State to look after your children is like handing them scissors and asking them to go for a run. The State only looks after one thing; the State. Utopian's who believe that the State can ever perform any other function are sadly mistaken.
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Add another point:
1) Be realistic in your expectations of your child
This will save tons of trouble