Romanian diplomat's car in hit-and-run: cover up?
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Romania detains Ionescu
BUCHAREST - THE Romanian diplomat involved in a fatal hit-and-run case in Singapore was detained for questioning on Friday, Romanian prosecutors said.
Silviu Ionescu, who was Bucharest's charge d'affaires in Singapore at the time, is alleged to have hit three pedestrians in two incidents in December while driving a car belonging to the Romanian mission.
One of the victims, a 30-year-old Malaysian national, suffered brain damage and died on Christmas Day, while the two others suffered injuries. The diplomat, who flew back to Romania days after the accident, 'has tried to influence witnesses' depositions and asked an employee to ... erase data in his computer,' prosecutors said.
Ionescu was taking in for questioning for six hours on Friday by prosecutors who are seeking a 29-day detention warrant against him. Judges have 24 hours to approve the diplomat's detention or release him. Ionescu has publicly denied he was the driver, claiming the car was stolen.
In interviews to Romanian media, he alleged he was 'a victim of a conspiracy by Singapore authorities.' Last month, Singapore issued an arrest warrant after a coroner's court ruled that Ionescu was driving the car involved in the accident.
Singapore's foreign ministry said the Romanian government had the moral obligation to persuade Ionescu to return to face the charges. There is no extradition treaty between Singapore and Romania. -- AFP
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If he is innocent come back and fight in court like a man. I am sure he has money to hire the best lawyer his country can offer. If Romania wants to make it right it is the best way to do to get the guy come over to our court. Don't worry we are a small country, also not a religiously zealous one so no fear. We have nothing for conspiracy because we can pick any drunk driver off the road and charge him in court for any hit and run. Unless he is so poor that he cannot even hire an ahmat to drive his car after having some fun and entertainment.
Singapore acting like a woman scorned? Who is the ah gua with a pussy now ?
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Romania jails Ionescu
BUCHAREST - A ROMANIAN court jailed for 29 days on Saturday a diplomat allegedly involved in a hit-and-run crash in Singapore in December that killed a Malaysian, media reported.
Silviu Ionescu, a former charge d'affaires in Singapore, was detained for questioning on Friday and the court later ordered him to be arrested for 29 days pending his trial.
Ionescu's lawyer filed an appeal to the court's decision, news agency Mediafax reported. Ionescu is alleged to have hit three pedestrians in two incidents in December while driving a car belonging to the Romanian mission.
One of the victims, a 30-year-old Malaysian national, suffered brain damage and died on Christmas Day, while the two others suffered injuries. Ionescu has publicly denied he was the driver, claiming the car was stolen.
Last month Singapore issued an arrest warrant after a coroner's court ruled that Ionescu was driving the car involved in the accident. Singapore's foreign ministry said the Romanian government had the moral obligation to persuade Ionescu to return to face the charges. There is no extradition treaty between the two countries.
'The Romanian government must in its own interests ensure that justice was served and seen to be served,' a spokesman said in a statement. 'Otherwise, there would inevitably be consequences for bilateral relations.' -- AFP
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Originally posted by troublemaker2005:
If he is innocent come back and fight in court like a man. I am sure he has money to hire the best lawyer his country can offer. If Romania wants to make it right it is the best way to do to get the guy come over to our court. Don't worry we are a small country, also not a religiously zealous one so no fear. We have nothing for conspiracy because we can pick any drunk driver off the road and charge him in court for any hit and run. Unless he is so poor that he cannot even hire an ahmat to drive his car after having some fun and entertainment.
Singapore acting like a woman scorned? Who is the ah gua with a pussy now ?Eh, hello, 'Singapore acting like a woman scorned?' is my article, U gota problem w that; n I though U read my previous post and understood?:
Originally posted by troublemaker2005, 02 May`10, 6:55AM:Thanks for the information. Very concise with quotes from various sources. ...
Must I rant again about how Singapore's use of Article 39.2 is premature, wrong, offensive and harming our 'diplomatic relations'?
Even Ionescu has the smarts to use the Interpol notice as an excuse to 'complain', so don't U sense that we are doing something wrong here?
The 'woman scorned' story is on my blog, as are all other articles and commentaries I find relevant.
Like U wouldn't rant to the police about the neighbor's toddler son beating your pet cat, U wouldn't notify Interpol about what is essentially a 'domestic' problem between two sovereigns.
So wake up, this world isn't run by some organization that U can rant to every time U get upset over essentially private matters, ones entered into mutually and governed based upon terms enshrined in the VCDR . What is needed is that one upholds one's ethics and integrity and resolve the said problem according to the existing mutual agreement- the 'Vienna Convention on Diplomatic Relations'. I can only surmise that under populist pressures to 'perform' SG MFA misread the spirit of the VCDR and jumped into invoking A39.2 whilst overlooking 31.1 and 31.4- which common sense would tell, are far superior articles for consideration as they are numerically precedent. Who ever reads a book back to front but the devious or the lunatic; like wise, if Singapore is as prim and proper as it claims to be, then our Honorable Minister ought to start reading the VCDR from FRONT TO BACK and not vice versa nor cherry pick articles of his liking, ultimately putting all his audience on an emotional 'roller-coaster' ride and a spanner into negotiations.
I do hope we see our own faults and in so doing, return both sovereigns back to the drawing board.
Minister G Yeo himself has already spoken in Parliament that:
Quote: 'TRANSCRIPT OF MINISTER FOR FOREIGN AFFAIRS GEORGE YEO'S REPLIES TO SUPPLEMENTARY QUESTIONS, 26 APRIL 2010' (bottom)
"Legally speaking, there is no higher authority we can appeal to (regarding the Ionescu case)."So please if U could do some of your own homework and not swallow everything U hear 'lock stock and barrel' n let the 2 sovereigns resolve our problems internally- i.e. mutually.
May Ionescu be brought to Justice and may we apologize for our indiscretions.
Rgds
B.C.
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Honest i didn't read. So you wrote that? Then i think you better remove that. Its an insult to singapore. But if you are not going to remove that there is nothing i can do about it. Similarly what i wrote here you can't possibly ask me to take back my words. Three is no higher authority to make me do that.
So your blog generated how much traffic?
I think jumping the gun from page one to page omega is good. Saves time and Romania having to send correspondent back and forth since distance and time to work on the case may be tight. Also since Ionescu so sly it is good to bring oout all the claus in a go. Law is dead, man is alive and should exercise some flexibility. Good move on Sg side i say. Really i don't think we should apologize for any indiscretions. Its international law not singapore law.
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looks like he's getting scared..
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Originally posted by troublemaker2005:
Honest i didn't read. So you wrote that? Then i think you better remove that. Its an insult to singapore. But if you are not going to remove that there is nothing i can do about it. Similarly what i wrote here you can't possibly ask me to take back my words. Three is no higher authority to make me do that.
So your blog generated how much traffic?
I think jumping the gun from page one to page omega is good. Saves time and Romania having to send correspondent back and forth since distance and time to work on the case may be tight. Also since Ionescu so sly it is good to bring oout all the claus in a go. Law is dead, man is alive and should exercise some flexibility. Good move on Sg side i say. Really i don't think we should apologize for any indiscretions. Its international law not singapore law.
bic_cherry got a point and i don't think she should remove her article
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Interest over Ionescu's hit-and-run case picking up in Romania
SINGAPORE : Interest in Romania on the Dr Silviu Ionescu hit-and-run case in Singapore is picking up, after authorities there decided to detain him for 29 days for further investigations.
Fresh pictures have been appearing on Romanian TV of the former charge d'affaires to Singapore being led away for detention.
He was detained for investigations into the accidents in December last year which killed one person and injured two others.
The media in Romania has also been reporting how Singapore's media and online community are keenly following developments of the case.
Singapore's Ministry of Foreign Affairs is hoping that the Romanian authorities will persuade Dr Ionescu to return to Singapore to face charges.
There is no extradition treaty between Singapore and Romania.- CNA /ls
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Originally posted by BanguIzai:
bic_cherry got a point and i don't think she should remove her article
Another random post again. Randoms posts can be posts with long texts, also posts with short texts. WHo cares what you think so baka don't anyhow quote my posts. -
Originally posted by troublemaker2005:
Another random post again. Randoms posts can be posts with long texts, also posts with short texts. WHo cares what you think so baka don't anyhow quote my posts.i like to quote your post as much as possible leh, i like to quote everyone's post.
Or else what for the quote function is here for, my dear?
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Originally posted by BanguIzai:
I am sorry pee on me
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Originally posted by bic_cherry:
Eh, hello, 'Singapore acting like a woman scorned?' is my article, U gota problem w that; n I though U read my previous post and understood?:
Must I rant again about how Singapore's use of Article 39.2 is premature, wrong, offensive and harming our 'diplomatic relations'?
Even Ionescu has the smarts to use the Interpol notice as an excuse to 'complain', so don't U sense that we are doing something wrong here?
The 'woman scorned' story is on my blog, as are all other articles and commentaries I find relevant.
Like U wouldn't rant to the police about the neighbor's toddler son beating your pet cat, U wouldn't notify Interpol about what is essentially a 'domestic' problem between two sovereigns.
So wake up, this world isn't run by some organization that U can rant to every time U get upset over essentially private matters, ones entered into mutually and governed based upon terms enshrined in the VCDR . What is needed is that one upholds one's ethics and integrity and resolve the said problem according to the existing mutual agreement- the 'Vienna Convention on Diplomatic Relations'. I can only surmise that under populist pressures to 'perform' SG MFA misread the spirit of the VCDR and jumped into invoking A39.2 whilst overlooking 31.1 and 31.4- which common sense would tell, are far superior articles for consideration as they are numerically precedent. Who ever reads a book back to front but the devious or the lunatic; like wise, if Singapore is as prim and proper as it claims to be, then our Honorable Minister ought to start reading the VCDR from FRONT TO BACK and not vice versa nor cherry pick articles of his liking, ultimately putting all his audience on an emotional 'roller-coaster' ride and a spanner into negotiations.
I do hope we see our own faults and in so doing, return both sovereigns back to the drawing board.
Minister G Yeo himself has already spoken in Parliament that:
So please if U could do some of your own homework and not swallow everything U hear 'lock stock and barrel' n let the 2 sovereigns resolve our problems internally- i.e. mutually.
May Ionescu be brought to Justice and may we apologize for our indiscretions.
Rgds
B.C.
Bic_cherry, shameful of you to be so insensitive till to compare the running over of 3 person (killing of one) to "your neighbor's toddler son beating your pet cat."
Hopefully soon your neighbour will run over your all your kids with his car !!! think that is more appropriate.
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Originally posted by storywolf:
Bic_cherry, shameful of you to be so insensitive till to compare the running over of 3 person (killing of one) to "your neighbor's toddler son beating your pet cat."
Hopefully soon your neighbour will run over your all your kids with his car !!! think that is more appropriate.
Hi StoryWolf,
I apologize if the analogy used might have inadvertently caused offense.
The key point of my opinion being the fact that the current issue at hand is mutual and linked directly to the incompetencies of both states in the handling of what is essentially a problem with their interpretations of the Vienna Convention on Diplomatic Relations.It is also my an expression of my displeasure as to what I believe is SG's shockingly inappropriate application of the VCDR.
On part of Singapore, the Interpol notice based upon a 'cherry picked' article 39.2 of the VCDR , WITHOUT regard to Article31.4, remains purely moot- and thus liable to cause offense to Romania, a partner so essential to bringing Ionescu to justice. The unprecedented, unreasonable and thus inappropriate application of A39.2 without reference to A31.4 is in discordance with the spirit of the VCDR, and as such, a major impediment to the entire negotiatory process- i.e. a spanner in the works of currently good relations/ negotiations thus far.
For the avoidance of doubt, I believe A39.2 (as SG MFA premises it's Interpol notice by) to be merely moot at present. This is because by virtue of its numerical precedence and relevance to the issue at hand, a reference to A31.4 (and by precedence A31.1) is a mandatory consideration prior to any valid execution of A39.2 (which our current SG case sorely lacks).
Article31.4 states: "The immunity of a diplomatic agent from the jurisdiction of the receiving State does not exempt him from the jurisdiction of the sending State."
Singapore's 'cherry picked' and unjustified application of A39.2 (without due respect for Romania's wisk to comply with A31.4) is thus inappropriate, and as such, SG currently owes the Romanian MFA EITHER
a) an apology (and immediate retraction of the Interpol notice) for her unqualified application of A39.2 of the VCDR, OR
b) a qualification to justify use of A39.2.Romania on the other hand, seems woefully unfamiliar with the roles and responsibilities befitting of a Soveriegn 'sending state'- as to the discipline and management and of a wayward diplomat, one who has killed by negligence and then lied; who should have from much early on been silenced from making any further disparaging remarks which might compromise Romanian reputation and by extension, mutual relations- which paradoxically, was the original purpose he (Ionescu) was meant to serve. A severe warning and/ or arrest would have been warranted to limit his misleading and aggravating comments to the press (both Singapore and Romanian)- given the fact that he was still enjoying 'diplomatic status' (having been only issued a 'suspension' and thus still under Romanian MFA 'employ')- and thus protected for persecution under SG law/ A39.2; would thus be professionally obligated to continue serving the diplomatic interest of the sovereign (Romania) he so represents the SG accident investigations notwithstanding.
That said, this current 'saga' also reflects poorly on the system by which Interpol is run and the appreciation by Interpol for Diplomatic Laws. Rather than being merely portrayed as a 'rubber-stamp' organisation, Interpol should have queried the basis upon which Singapore's request for the red notice was made for a 'diplomat'- specifically the evidence that A31.4 (or other applicable articles) had been adequately considered in precedence to A39.2 being executed.
I have thus far found myself disappointed with the overall handling of the Ionescu case by the various parties mentioned, wherein their interpretation of the VCDR seems rather lacking if not self-serving.
I thus hope that Justice would be served in its true spirit without corruption by either incompetencies or ulterior motives of parties involved.
The book of law should be read in spirit, from front to back and not vice versa.
Please do not pervert the word of law.'Story wolf', whist I do not wish to demean the misfortune and suffering of the victims concerned, I also do not wish to see further injustice arising form the misinterpretation of important legal and mutual agreements.
I wish U all the best in your appreciation of the current legal conundrum and hope for your support of the rightful spirit in which justice is served.
Regards and God Bless
Bic_Cherry
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Originally posted by annoy-you-must:
In that case we should just send our armed forces into Romania and get Dr Ionescu back to Singapore by force. Can show all the other countries Singapore isn't one to be punked with also.
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Originally posted by storywolf:
Bic_cherry, shameful of you to be so insensitive till to compare the running over of 3 person (killing of one) to "your neighbor's toddler son beating your pet cat."
Hopefully soon your neighbour will run over your all your kids with his car !!! think that is more appropriate.
Read the blog carefully there are lost more words and comments in between added on the authir's own assumeption of singapore. "woman scorned.." was just one of them. Assumption of singapore jumping the gun in stating all the laws from a-Z was also her own assumption. -
Originally posted by ~PEPPER~:
Maybe their country armed forces stronger than us?
This has nothing to do with military. The death of a man hit by car and a black sheep of a diplomat is unworthy of a call for war or any military strength comparison. There will never be a need to. -
Ionescu a risk to public order
A judge in a Romanian court holds the view that former charge d'affaires to Singapore, Silviu Ionescu, constitutes a risk to public order if he remains free.
Romanian media Nine O'clock reported today that the court acknowledged the fact that Dr Ionescu had tried to influence the woman accompanying him before the accidents into changing her testimony.
Dr Ionescu had also asked his driver to modify the log of the Embassy car.
The judge presiding over the case said there were clues suggesting Dr Ionescu had committed the acts he's accused of.
The 50-year-old former diplomat is currently under investigation in Romania for manslaughter, leaving the scene of an accident and making false statements.
Last month, a coroner's inquiry in Singapore indicated that Dr Ionescu was the driver of the car that hit three pedestrians in a fatal hit-and-run accident last December.
Dr Ionescu had filed an appeal against the 29 days preventive detention against him last Friday.
A decision on the appeal will be made on Thursday.-- 938Live
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Originally posted by troublemaker2005:
Honest i didn't read. So you wrote that? Then i think you better remove that. Its an insult to singapore. But if you are not going to remove that there is nothing i can do about it. Similarly what i wrote here you can't possibly ask me to take back my words. Three is no higher authority to make me do that.
So your blog generated how much traffic?
U have no right to comment if U don't read, so U are 'one-of-those' self righteous ones who 'don't-bother' to read and then when things don't go your way, retire saying "I'm puzzled", your 'user name' betrays your true intentions.
Originally posted by troublemaker2005:I think jumping the gun from page one to page omega is good. Saves time and Romania having to send correspondent back and forth since distance and time to work on the case may be tight. Also since Ionescu so sly it is good to bring oout all the claus in a go. Law is dead, man is alive and should exercise some flexibility. Good move on Sg side i say. Really i don't think we should apologize for any indiscretions. Its international law not singapore law.
"all the claus in a go"-
pls make sure they are in good working order and not articles easily disputed and refuted."Law is dead, man is alive and should exercise some flexibility."-
Ditto yourself too, for the opinions of others, since U want to put it this way."Really i don't think we should apologize for any indiscretions. Its international law not singapore law."-
Haha, so much for spending your time navel-gazing. So U are above International law- yeah, centre of the univerise I guess too. A 'troublemaker' of 5yrs vintage, one by now, must be feeling quite above the law. I just hope that our SG politicians do not think likewise. Really. -
Romanian High Court rejects Ionescu appeal
SINGAPORE: Former Romanian charge d' affaires to Singapore, Silviu Ionescu, has failed in his appeal to have his international arrest warrant annulled.
Romanian media, Nine O" Clock, said the appeal was rejected after the Romanian High Court "realised that it cannot rule on documents or requests issued by states with which Romania does not have judiciary collaboration agreements."
The ruling by the High Court of Cassation and Justice is final.
This means the international arrest warrant issued by Singapore against Dr Ionescu remains valid.
His lawyer, Maria Vasi, told the court that she did not rule out that the accident was staged by the Singapore authorities so that they could subsequently force the Romanian diplomat to reveal intelligence.
Dr Ionescu was found by a Coroner's Inquiry in Singapore to be the driver behind the wheel of a Black Audi which was involved in two hit-and-run accidents in December last year.
One person subsequently died of his injuries.
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Originally posted by bic_cherry:
U have no right to comment if U don't read, so U are 'one-of-those' self righteous ones who 'don't-bother' to read and then when things don't go your way, retire saying "I'm puzzled", your 'user name' betrays your true intentions.
"all the claus in a go"-
pls make sure they are in good working order and not articles easily disputed and refuted."Law is dead, man is alive and should exercise some flexibility."-
Ditto yourself too, for the opinions of others, since U want to put it this way."Really i don't think we should apologize for any indiscretions. Its international law not singapore law."-
Haha, so much for spending your time navel-gazing. So U are above International law- yeah, centre of the univerise I guess too. A 'troublemaker' of 5yrs vintage, one by now, must be feeling quite above the law. I just hope that our SG politicians do not think likewise. Really.
Pls don't promote your blog hopping to generate traffic lah. If you link and type everything direct from here okay but its about your blog and popularity and traffic lah come on, in the guise of the wish for justice tobe served. You can write what you want but see i am still commenting on this because we all have the freedom of speech. Sadly this freedom also allows you to portray sg as a 'women scorned' and 'sg jumping the gun in law'. As for my nick i don't rreally care. Its something that i have to do and register just to post here. Not to generate traffic haha -
Originally posted by QX179R:
Romanian High Court rejects Ionescu appeal
SINGAPORE: Former Romanian charge d' affaires to Singapore, Silviu Ionescu, has failed in his appeal to have his international arrest warrant annulled.
Romanian media, Nine O" Clock, said the appeal was rejected after the Romanian High Court "realised that it cannot rule on documents or requests issued by states with which Romania does not have judiciary collaboration agreements."
The ruling by the High Court of Cassation and Justice is final.
This means the international arrest warrant issued by Singapore against Dr Ionescu remains valid.
His lawyer, Maria Vasi, told the court that she did not rule out that the accident was staged by the Singapore authorities so that they could subsequently force the Romanian diplomat to reveal intelligence.
Dr Ionescu was found by a Coroner's Inquiry in Singapore to be the driver behind the wheel of a Black Audi which was involved in two hit-and-run accidents in December last year.
One person subsequently died of his injuries.
- CNA/jyI hope Romania side really look inot this claim. The conspiracy claim. I am sure our officials and witness will not hesitate to make a trip there to testify against this black sheep's claim. How can an accident be staged, our side at the cost a one dead and two possibly crippled for life? If the guy had not hit and run and possibly drove dangerously all the way how would anyone not willingly testify against him? Worse its adiplomat somemore.
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Originally posted by troublemaker2005:
Pls don't promote your blog hopping to generate traffic lah. If you link and type everything direct from here okay but its about your blog and popularity and traffic lah come on, in the guise of the wish for justice tobe served. You can write what you want but see i am still commenting on this because we all have the freedom of speech. Sadly this freedom also allows you to portray sg as a 'women scorned' and 'sg jumping the gun in law'. As for my nick i don't rreally care. Its something that i have to do and register just to post here. Not to generate traffic haha
Hi lazy bum aka 'troublemaker(vintage)2005', the traffic to my blog is the least of my concerns, it serves only as a repository and is highlighted only for version updates and also against unfounded accusatories/ 'troublemaker'(s) such as yourself. Such repository is also helpful in the light of some otherrforums which censor posts which they view as 'sensitive'.
Your statement, " in the guise of the wish for justice tobe (sic) served" I find unfounded and thus libelous; still, in the mutual spirit of "freedom of speech" do I respond by continuing to describe what I feel is the right way forward.
You are however always welcomed to dispute my analysis upon material fact, though noting your many dalliances in these forums and short attention span thus far, I anticipate such possibility to be abysmal and limited to wild accusations and name calling.
Shame on you.
But do have a nice day.
Rgds
Bic_Cherry.
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Originally posted by QX179R:
Romanian High Court rejects Ionescu appeal
SINGAPORE: Former Romanian charge d' affaires to Singapore, Silviu Ionescu, has failed in his appeal to have his international arrest warrant annulled.
Romanian media, Nine O" Clock, said the appeal was rejected after the Romanian High Court "realised that it cannot rule on documents or requests issued by states with which Romania does not have judiciary collaboration agreements."
The ruling by the High Court of Cassation and Justice is final.
This means the international arrest warrant issued by Singapore against Dr Ionescu remains valid.
His lawyer, Maria Vasi, told the court that she did not rule out that the accident was staged by the Singapore authorities so that they could subsequently force the Romanian diplomat to reveal intelligence.
Dr Ionescu was found by a Coroner's Inquiry in Singapore to be the driver behind the wheel of a Black Audi which was involved in two hit-and-run accidents in December last year.
One person subsequently died of his injuries.
- CNA/jyHi QX179R, thanks for the reference, I guess this just goes to prove how closely our 2 countries must work to bring Ionescu to justice. Brinkmanship, one-upmanship on either side will not work and would make Ionescu the ultimate winner and a mockery of us all.
As I have said, someone (firstly from SG side) had better start reading the large font 16 pages of the Vienna Convention on Diplomatic Relations- front to back and not any other way as I'd explained in my above post: 'The book of law should be read from front to back and not vice versa.'
May the truth be told.
Rgds,
God Bless,
Bic_Cherry.
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Originally posted by bic_cherry:
Hi lazy bum aka 'troublemaker(handsome)2005', the traffic to my blog is the most of my concerns, it serves not only as a repository and is highlighted less only for version updates and also against unfounded accusatories/ 'troublemaker'(s) such as my father. Such repository is also helpful in the light of some otherrforums which censor posts which they view as 'ignorant'.
Your statement, " in the guise of the wish for justice tobe (sic) served" I find unfounded and thus libelous; still, in the mutual spirit of "freedom of speech" do I respond by continuing to describe what I feel is the right way forward because i cannot do anything about it.
You are however always welcomed to dispute my analysis upon material fact, though noting your many dalliances in these forums and short attention span thus far, I anticipate such possibility to be abysmal and limited to true accusations and boot licking.
Shame on me.
But do have a nice day.
Rgds
Bic_Cherry.
No time to read your blog. its all there in words, thousand of them. plus the quote i think millions of words. You are the one who starter name calling. Well don't matter its a nick not my name. shame on you
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Originally posted by bic_cherry:
Hi QX179R, thanks for the reference, I guess this just goes to prove how closely our 2 countries must work to bring Ionescu to justice. Brinkmanship, one-upmanship on either side will not work and would make Ionescu the ultimate winner and a mockery of us all.
As I have said, someone (firstly from SG side) had better start reading the large font 16 pages of the Vienna Convention on Diplomatic Relations- front to back and not any other way as I'd explained in my above post: 'The book of law should be read from front to back and not vice versa.'
May the truth be told.
Rgds,
God Bless,
Bic_Cherry.
We are reading mostly from theis forum this thread. Don;t try to get people read your blog and generate traffic lah.