S'poreans of mixed race allowes to double barrel race in IC
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For the time being we will have Chinese-Indian, Malay-Chinese, Indian-Malay. and so on. Just a few for simplicity. These are children now. Later when they marry. Say Chinese-Indian marries Indian-Malay. What to put on the IC?
Associate Professor Ho Peng Kee, Senior Minister of State for Home Affairs, said: "In multi-racial Singapore, we still need the race classification. We celebrate our diversity and this is our strength. So unlike other societies, for example in France, to be politically-correct, they do away with recording and reflecting race. But that does not mean that the problems will go away."
Chinese-Indian-Malay-French-Japanese-Dutch, substitute one problem with another.
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Originally posted by Junyang700:
Ic. That's good. But if I am not wrong, its possible for you to change to "Chinese-Korean" with the new law and not just "Korean".
Maybe tml newspapers will give you a clearer insight on this. =)To be honest, I didn't know that even changing your race on your IC was possible, if I had known it long ago I would have changed it to Korean.
And no I don't really want a mixed Chinese-Korean status, I just want it to be Korean. That is possible also right, as you can pick which side you want?
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Originally posted by Meia Gisborn:
I wonder if I can apply to have the race on my IC changed to "Human/Earthling".
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Originally posted by Fryderyk HPH:
And no I don't really want a mixed Chinese-Korean status, I just want it to be Korean.
There is no such thing as mixed status. It is rubbish.
This is another example of PAP incompetence.
They must be voted out.
The PAP must be voted out.
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Govt must be anticipating that thousands of Singaporeans will be flocking to have their ICs changed reflecting their preferred race(s) accordingly. They may site reasons like 'eliminating identity crisis' or 'appreciating cross-cultural and inter-ethnic identities', but isn't this just another money-making 'exercise'?
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Double-barrelled listing won't have big impact on ethnic policies:PM Lee
By Asha Popatlal, Channel NewsAsia | Posted: 15 January 2010 1634 hrsHANOI: Singapore Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong said he does not think the recent announcement on double-barrelled race listing will have a big impact on ethnic integration policies, but instead, it is more a liberalisation of the system.
Mr Lee was asked to comment on the issue at the wrap-up of his official visit to Vietnam.
There have been an increasing number of mixed race marriages in Singapore. This has led the government to allow double-barrelled race listing, but questions have been asked about the impact on ethnic integration, housing and Group Representation Constituencies (GRCs) policies, for instance.
Mr Lee said: "I don't think it will have a big impact on our GRCs or ethnic integration policies because the majority of the population will still be the major racial groups - the Chinese, the Malays, the Indians.
"And these are the other racial or ethnic groups who, in total numbers, will remain small for some time to come, and maybe for a very long time to come."
It is best though, said Mr Lee, for parents to say how they want to describe their children's ethnicity. He said: "We allow double-barrelled names - well triple and quadruple that becomes not very practical.
"It is put down really for administrative purposes at birth, but the real determination takes place when he is 15 years old, or she, and you have your identity card and then what is put down in your identity card is what stays with you for life."
Commenting on the public debate this has sparked, Mr Lee noted that race and religion are very sensitive areas, which will never become non-issues, here or globally.
"I think it is a liberalisation, I don't think it is a revolution. And there is a lot of coverage, commentary, excitement even some angst in the newspapers - perhaps take a few days and things will cool off," Mr Lee said.
Referring to the French model which does away with such race classification, the prime minister said this had led to concentrations of ethnic groups in certain areas and an insoluble social problem.
In the end, Mr Lee said it is best to have practical policies which gradually bring people together, but acknowledge that they are not identical.
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Originally posted by Chew Bakar:
Double-barrelled listing won't have big impact on ethnic policies:PM Lee
By Asha Popatlal, Channel NewsAsia | Posted: 15 January 2010 1634 hrsHANOI: Singapore Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong said he does not think the recent announcement on double-barrelled race listing will have a big impact on ethnic integration policies, but instead, it is more a liberalisation of the system.
Mr Lee was asked to comment on the issue at the wrap-up of his official visit to Vietnam.
There have been an increasing number of mixed race marriages in Singapore. This has led the government to allow double-barrelled race listing, but questions have been asked about the impact on ethnic integration, housing and Group Representation Constituencies (GRCs) policies, for instance.
Mr Lee said: "I don't think it will have a big impact on our GRCs or ethnic integration policies because the majority of the population will still be the major racial groups - the Chinese, the Malays, the Indians.
"And these are the other racial or ethnic groups who, in total numbers, will remain small for some time to come, and maybe for a very long time to come."
It is best though, said Mr Lee, for parents to say how they want to describe their children's ethnicity. He said: "We allow double-barrelled names - well triple and quadruple that becomes not very practical.
"It is put down really for administrative purposes at birth, but the real determination takes place when he is 15 years old, or she, and you have your identity card and then what is put down in your identity card is what stays with you for life."
Commenting on the public debate this has sparked, Mr Lee noted that race and religion are very sensitive areas, which will never become non-issues, here or globally.
"I think it is a liberalisation, I don't think it is a revolution. And there is a lot of coverage, commentary, excitement even some angst in the newspapers - perhaps take a few days and things will cool off," Mr Lee said.
Referring to the French model which does away with such race classification, the prime minister said this had led to concentrations of ethnic groups in certain areas and an insoluble social problem.
In the end, Mr Lee said it is best to have practical policies which gradually bring people together, but acknowledge that they are not identical.
- CNA/scDid I just see the words "cool off"?
Zomg he election want cool off, this thing also want cool off? He so worried about pple not cool ah~...
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Originally posted by mancha:
For the time being we will have Chinese-Indian, Malay-Chinese, Indian-Malay. and so on. Just a few for simplicity. These are children now. Later when they marry. Say Chinese-Indian marries Indian-Malay. What to put on the IC?
Associate Professor Ho Peng Kee, Senior Minister of State for Home Affairs, said: "In multi-racial Singapore, we still need the race classification. We celebrate our diversity and this is our strength. So unlike other societies, for example in France, to be politically-correct, they do away with recording and reflecting race. But that does not mean that the problems will go away."
Chinese-Indian-Malay-French-Japanese-Dutch, substitute one problem with another.
Chinese-Indian married Indian-Malay than we call than Chinorakan.....Chinese-Indian-Malay-French-Dutch than we call it Chinoeurasian.
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Originally posted by Fryderyk HPH:
Did I just see the words "cool off"?
Zomg he election want cool off, this thing also want cool off? He so worried about pple not cool ah~...
he is peeing in his pants...being the Son of a Great leader....
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Originally posted by mancha:
For the time being we will have Chinese-Indian, Malay-Chinese, Indian-Malay. and so on. Just a few for simplicity. These are children now. Later when they marry. Say Chinese-Indian marries Indian-Malay. What to put on the IC?
Associate Professor Ho Peng Kee, Senior Minister of State for Home Affairs, said: "In multi-racial Singapore, we still need the race classification. We celebrate our diversity and this is our strength. So unlike other societies, for example in France, to be politically-correct, they do away with recording and reflecting race. But that does not mean that the problems will go away."
Chinese-Indian-Malay-French-Japanese-Dutch, substitute one problem with another.
Simple one word will solve. RojakRace: Rojak
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Originally posted by Arapahoe:
Chinese-Indian married Indian-Malay than we call than Chinorakan.....Chinese-Indian-Malay-French-Dutch than we call it Chinoeurasian.
This is gonna get too complicated.
Maybe thats the intention... get everyone so mixed up that there is no point identifying races anymore. Sort of like the Anglos-Saxons. They mixed up with pretty much race in Europe.
That way, it solves the racial tension problem... We're all the same. Rojak!
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Originally posted by Shotgun:
This is gonna get too complicated.
Maybe thats the intention... get everyone so mixed up that there is no point identifying races anymore. Sort of like the Anglos-Saxons. They mixed up with pretty much race in Europe.
That way, it solves the racial tension problem... We're all the same. Rojak!
you hit the point but it is from the old chapters of manage by division. or divide and conquer.......continue to keep singaporean together but divided so that they can govt....
Just imagine if a Sole Singaporean identity rises do you honestly think they can continue the way they managed Singapore?
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i always believe that Singapore should be able to form a unify identity and place Singaporean first rather than Race base Singapore.
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Originally posted by Arapahoe:
Chinese-Indian married Indian-Malay than we call than Chinorakan.....Chinese-Indian-Malay-French-Dutch than we call it Chinoeurasian.
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Originally posted by wh|te_@ng3|:
out of curiosity... if let's say there's this person who is Indian-Malay (Dad-Indian, Mom-Malay).. and he marries a Eurasian-Chinese lady (who's father is an eurasian, mother a chinese).. so eventually they have a child..
based on this "double barrelled" race... which race will the child follow?
Indian-Malay Eurasian-Chinese.
Welcome to Singapore - fucking racial Starbuck's.
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Originally posted by ztreyier:One problem with mix marriages is that it causes identity crisis.
Bullshit. It's idiots who carry on like two-bob watches about "You're not [insert race here]" and give needless grief that cause problems.