Liver transplant hopeful Claire Murray arrives in Singapore

QX179R

1 Apr 10, 22:30

Aussie liver patient dies

AN AUSTRALIAN liver transplant recipient, who sparked a storm of debate over her organ donation in her country, died at the Mount Elizabeth Hospital at noon on Thursday, after doctors battled for eight hours on Wednesday to remove blood clots that had formed around her heart.

Doctors said they had done all they could to save Ms Claire Murray, 25, from West Australia.

Her supporter and Perth doctor, George O'Neil, earlier told The West Australian news site that Ms Murray had been taken off life support on Thursday morning. 'This morning it looked as though they were taking her off the ventilator and she was in renal failure by 9am,' Dr O'Neill told the news portal. He said he expected doctors to 'declare she will be dead before lunchtime'.

According to a source close to the Murray family, the mother of two had too many blood clots. The operation had been expected to take four hours, but complications extended it to eight, The West Australian reported.

Ms Murray's organ donation sparked a storm of debate in Australia. Dr O'Neill commended her public fight. He said: 'I think a lot of people in the community have been interested but not really understood it could mean the death of a young, 25-year-old woman.' 'I have talked to (Ms Murray's family) and they are definitely in grieving mode.'

Her father, Michael, flew to Singapore to be with her on Wednesday. Her parents, brother, uncle and step-father are with her, although her two children remained in Perth.

Ms Murray, a recovering heroin addict, was refused a donor transplant by doctors in Perth because she relapsed soon after her first transplant in 2009. Ms Murray's aunt had donated part of her liver.

-- ST

TERMINATOR4000

2 Apr 10, 05:24

there u have it!!shame on all those who try to be god by seeing who should live or die.I HOPE U ALL FEEL HAPPY AND RELIEVED NOW. SUCH UNWISE SINGAPOREANS >>>>PULLING THE TRIGGER WITHOUT THINKING!I RATHER NOT MEET UP WITH ANY OF U AT ANY COST.

did i come all the way to australia just to meet TRASHY singaporeans with A PAP SELFISH mindset AND TRY TO BE SOME GOD OR WANNA BE EVEN BETTER THAN THE PAP !?

LUCKY FOR AUSTRALIA ANYONE CAN BUY A BOX OF BULLETS FOR A SONG.:)

Poignant

2 Apr 10, 05:39

you ok anot?

TERMINATOR4000

2 Apr 10, 06:03

Originally posted by TERMINATOR3000:

mr qx mod.....................u can edit all u want...........ive decided to register my cown manufacturing company in australia under my name.so enjoy editing....i have made my own progress even without any industries in here.

well....im in this far off town because i have my loyalty unlike ged who hasnt loyalty to singapore,australia or his family.being here in a cesspit and boondocks is way better than being anywhere near ged!ya a damn ugly fella ged!!!

im glad im not even in melbourne and from the stench he emits out worse than a cesspit.....hes already a decomposed human.:)

life is so beautiful........without such people such as ged.

TERMINATOR4000

2 Apr 10, 06:11

poigant,

look from page 1 and 2 onwards.......there are singaporeans who think what that poor gal should and shouldnt get...and these are singaporeans complaining where aussie gov $$$ should goto.REAL UGLY,,,,,,,I NEVER HAD LOCAL singaporeans telling spore gov about life making decisions..............and how and who should live or die.and yet these people have no shame telling the aussie gov what they should do with their money and who should live or die.what kinda humans are these???were they brought up from sewer pipes back in spore??

i know i am noble and kind as a singaporean.....but these singaporeans who immigrated earlier than me sound rather uneducated and act like butchers and murderers.

perhaps it is their enviroment or lack of one in the past and the present.

this is a sad day for australia indeed.and i suppose a happy day for singaporeans living in singapore.....one or 2 less of the sorta people who are merely PAP wannabes or worse.

Gedanken

2 Apr 10, 07:25

Originally posted by redDUST:

it's reported in the news today that claire murray died in singapore today.

rip....

It was a fool's errand at best, and a complete waste of money.

With a quarter million dollars, we could have gotten more than 300 apprentices started with their training. Instead we got one corpse. Do the math.

TERMINATOR4000

2 Apr 10, 07:28

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Gedanken

2 Apr 10, 07:46

Originally posted by Log cell:

t3000 is one the very few in spore who knows what to do and perhaps the world.he is perhaps the only one who is able to build an entire production system composed of robots.....he is not very common in spore and perhaps oz.

Oooh, that's so impressive. Whoops, you're still fucking jobless. Do the math.

You've had your useless posts deleted and you've been banned for the umpteenth time. Do the math.

The facts themselves already announce how useless you are.Nobody could do any worse to you than you've already done to yourself. Christ, it must really suck to wake up every morning and see your face in the mirror.

I'm done with you, loser. Buh-bye.

TERMINATOR4000

2 Apr 10, 07:52

dont really need a job like u do.do the math will u!

well................they can delete as much as they want...i welcome them to!!

its probably worse waking up and seeing myself as ged.........ged the nobody!

when i look in the mirror every morning i see a real man,,,,,,,stop making me look like u ged...u are way worse than u think u are.if im a loser then i would be in melbourne living next to u!!!hahahaha.....

at least i have potential and im still going somewhere without any industries here.....just look at u......u STILL need a job!!!u would probably die without it,,,,HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

ADIOS SENIORITA MUCHO GRACIAS!!!

Rest in peace.

redDUST

2 Apr 10, 09:47

Originally posted by Gedanken:

It was a fool's errand at best, and a complete waste of money.

With a quarter million dollars, we could have gotten more than 300 apprentices started with their training. Instead we got one corpse. Do the math.

i supposed you are entitled to your view. i share your view and am as well that the state government would go to the extent of giving a loan on such a case.

the other side of the coin is there is a life involved and she's entitled to her (3rd) chance of living. if she died unassisted, the WA government would probably get the brunt of it. and the donor is her aunt. so, only money is in the way. in some ways, the WA govt are absolved of any responsibility now.

the interesting question now is if the quad mill loan is going to be repaid.

Gedanken

2 Apr 10, 10:10

Originally posted by redDUST:

the other side of the coin is there is a life involved and she's entitled to her (3rd) chance of living. if she died unassisted, the WA government would probably get the brunt of it. and the donor is her aunt. so, only money is in the way. in some ways, the WA govt are absolved of any responsibility now.

the interesting question now is if the quad mill loan is going to be repaid.

Many would and have argued that by going back to drugs after the first transplant, she waived her entitlement.

As for the money, consider it gone. I can just see the Herald Sun headline now: "Our daughter's dead and the government is chasing us for money!". They were fools to provide the loan in the first place, and now the only thing they can do is cut their losses.

TERMINATOR4000

2 Apr 10, 10:21

shut up ged!!the $$$$ from the government of australia has nothing to do with u!

u must be shadow treasurer from meLbourne!

live with it!

mancha

2 Apr 10, 18:00

Claire Murray is going to die. That was certain before she came here.

Her family, and the WA government, and MEH gave her a chance for that shot at life.

Thats all there is to it.

We are all sad that she succumb to the inevitable, but there are no regrets.

R.I.P. Claire.

QX179R

2 Apr 10, 22:51

Australian liver transplant patient's death stems from genetic disorder: surgeon

SINGAPORE: An Australian woman died of infections from her second liver transplant in Singapore on Thursday.

She was operated on at Mouth Elizabeth Hospital by local surgeons who concluded that the death was caused by a genetic disorder.

These go against the claims made by previous doctors who said her first liver transplant failed due to her drug addiction.

Claire Murray, a 24-year-old Australian was ready to start life anew after battling years of drug abuse.

She was also the target of negative media coverage in her country after her family appealed for government support to fund her operation.

Dr Prema Raj, general surgeon, Mt Elizabeth Hospital, said: “When Claire came to us, she was portrayed as a drug junkie, a drug addict who abused her liver and was no good. But honestly, after getting to know her, what we saw was not a junkie, but a young lovely woman, a mother of two, who really wanted another chance at life.

After a successful organ transplant, Ms Murray had been recovering well until blood clots started forming in her arteries. This caused her death.

Surgeons discovered that she had a dysfunctional gene - a different conclusion drawn from her previous doctors.

Some are blaming it on her heroin addiction.

So what caused her death - was it a genetic disorder or drug abuse?

Dr Lui Hock Foong, liver transplant physician, Mt Elizabeth Hospital, said: “There was speculation that her drug use was responsible for the demise of this graft which caused her to go into liver failure again - hence the need for a second transplant.

“When she came to us, we ran a series of blood tests to find out if she has any inherent genetic disorder that would make her more likely to have blood clots. And as it turned out, she has a rare mutation of a gene that makes her to have blood clots more easily than others.”

The donor was Miss Murray's aunt, who's clearly worn out from the saga.

- CNA/vm

TERMINATOR4000

3 Apr 10, 05:36

if thats so...then why are there some people who think every cent was wasted on her...especially those people who were from singapore!are they that poor both financially and ethically?is $$$$ that hard to come by in melb that they regard $250k as something to make noise about even if their families loaned that amount and would pay it up???i dont see much aussies in yahoo message board making noise about that type of $$$ even if it ws wasted.

somehow most of the people complaining seem to be from melbourne and used to be from singapore.

is it that badly screwed up in melbourne?it cant be that bad as melbourne was regarded as one of the best states to live in the world!but how do u explain GED and some ex singapore from melb who agreed with his thoughts? apparently melbourne is just another cesspit in another different form.

it is indeed interesting ......enlightening in fact....i though melb was supposed to be better than that...but appears its not.perhaps they only have better conmen there where the whole show would be exposed by the people living there and how they think.

TERMINATOR4000

3 Apr 10, 05:54

For We Are Aussies And We Care
Raymond J Warren
Brisbane Qld
February 9th 2009

Did you see that fireball rolling, down the valley fair
And the timber smoke rising, from the beauty that was there?
Did you hear the birds loud calling, in fear as they flew,
And house dogs barking loudly, at the fright that they felt too?

Did you hear the wind loud roaring, like a jet plane overhead,
Did you see the roadway littered with the dying and the dead?
Did you hear the crackling bushland and see the volunteers fight,
Did you watch the orange horizon in the darkness of the night?

Can you hear the men hard yelling, as they run this way and that,
Can you hear the horses screaming as they gallop on the flat?
Do you hear the child calling as she stands now safe alone,
Whereâï¿½ï¿½s my daddy have you seen him, I want my daddy home!

Do you know that sinking feeling of the loss and loneliness,
As you stand before your once proud home and feel the emptiness.
Do you know that heartache, as you sift through ashes bare?
Does a tear come to your reddened eyes, for memories stolen there?

Can you hear the deathly cry go up, to meet the burnished sky,
Of fathers with their children gone and a mother's mournful sigh.
And those who search the empty roads, for loved ones, who don't come,

The old and wise who blame themselves, for not telling them to run.

But please donâï¿½ï¿½t worry strongly, there is something you should know,
We canâï¿½ï¿½t bring back your loved ones, or the tokens for to show.
But we can share your pain, for our shoulders we lay bare.
So lay your head upon our breast, we are Aussies and we care.

TERMINATOR4000

3 Apr 10, 06:06

SHAME ON YOU GED..........shame on u!

The others who supported his views may somehwhat join him too in his quest for "life".

Gedanken

5 Apr 10, 19:07

Originally posted by mancha:

there are no regrets.

Disagree.

Gedanken

5 Apr 10, 19:10

Originally posted by QX179R:

So what caused her death - was it a genetic disorder or drug abuse?

What got her to the first transplant in the first place?

iveco

9 Apr 10, 12:01

Originally posted by Gedanken:

What got her to the first transplant in the first place?

Her first transplant happened after her own liver went kaput following 12 years of drug use, says the original reports.

Anyway, her kids deserve our sympathy. They are so young.

iveco

13 Apr 10, 11:34

Family, friends farewell failed liver transplant mum Claire Murray

SAD FAREWELL: Liver transplant recipient Claire Murray will be buried today in Fremantle after a mass at a Thornlie church. Picture: 60 Minutes Source: PerthNow

SAD GOODBYE: Family and friends will farewell liver transplant recipient Claire Murray at her funeral today. Picture: 60 Minutes Source: PerthNow

YOUNG liver transplant recipient Claire Murray will be buried today in Fremantle after a funeral mass at a Thornlie church.

Family and friends will farewell the young mother at a service at the Sacred Heart church, Thornlie in a service at 10am.

She will be buried later in Fremantle Cemetery.

Ms Murray, 25, a mother of two young children, died in a Singapore hospital on April 1 after complications following a live liver transplant from her aunty Carolynn.

The former drug addict, who was denied a second transplant in WA, died after emergency surgery to remove blood clots from around her heart.

Days earlier she had received what was thought to be a successful live organ donation.

Ms Murray travelled to Singapore after the WA Government controversially loaned her family $258,000 interest-free.

The loan sparked public outrage from many who believed the former drug addict did not deserve any special treatment to allow a second liver transplant.

God rest her soul and strengthen her family.

iveco

22 Apr 10, 15:22

Now the Murray family have a trust fund set up to help them repay the loan from the state Treasury.

iveco

5 May 10, 15:30

Claire Murray's family to sell home to pay debt

MASSIVE DEBT: Claire Murray's family has been left with debts of $500,000 after her failed liver transplant in Singapore, where she died in hospital after surgery. Picture: 60 Minutes Source: PerthNow

THE father of Claire Murray yesterday revealed his family will sell their home to pay off the WA Government loan that bankrolled his daughter's liver transplant surgery.

Ms Murray, a 25-year-old mother of two, travelled to Singapore for a live liver transplant operation paid for by a $258,000 interest-free government loan.

The loan sparked public criticism from many who believed the former drug addict did not deserve a second chance. Ms Murray had used illicit drugs following her first transplant surgery in WA.

Though her second transplant surgery in Singapore was initially a success, Ms Murray died from complications 15 days later.

Yesterday her father, Michael Murray, said the family were more than $500,000 in debt.

This included the interest-free loan from the WA Government. They have been given two years to pay it back.

Asked if he would have to sell his house to repay the loan money, Mr Murray said: "That would be the case. Yes. I wouldn't like to have to do that but, if we have to do it, then we have to do it."

Mr Murray said he was yet to make contact with the Government about the loan.

"Nobody has been in touch with me and I haven't been in touch with them," he said.

The family had also borrowed from banks and friends to pay for his daughter's surgery. "There is a lot more money to be paid back than what the Government lent us," he said.

"The Government probably covered half the expenses.

"We still owe a lot of money at the moment."

Mr Murray said his family was cutting back in a bid to save money. Their savings had gone.

A foundation called "Claire We Care" is being set up to raise money to support drug education in schools. The foundation will also support families in crisis and raise awareness of organ donation.

Mr Murray said his family was still dealing with Claire's death.

"You get your good and bad days," he said. "I don't think we'll ever fully recover. But it gets easier with the good support you have around you."

He said there were no regrets about the attempt to save Ms Murray's life.

"We gave it our all and Claire gave it her all," he said. "It just wasn't meant to be."

iveco

14 Jun 10, 14:07

Use Claire's death to shock, educate high school students - father

SHOCK: Claire Murray's father wants the death of his daughter, at 25, to shock and educate high school students who might be experimenting with drugs. Picture: Channel Nine Source: PerthNow

GRAPHIC pictures of drug addict Claire Murray's diseased liver should be used to shock high-school students into staying clean and sober, her father says.

Michael Murray wants to use the last days of his daughter's life as part of a drug-education program in WA schools.

A heartbroken Mr Murray, whose daughter died after a controversial organ-transplant debate that divided WA, said he had letters written by his daughter and pictures of her liver that should be used to discourage children from exper2imenting with drugs.

There was also a video of her warning children off drugs that was filmed only days before her death.

"It's super important to educate children about drugs at a school age," Mr Murray said.

"Claire used to say that the minute you put a needle in your arm, it's too late. Once you have started injecting it's very hard to stop."

The loan sparked public criticism from many who believed the former addict did not deserve a second chance because Ms Murray had used illicit drugs following her first transplant surgery in WA.

Though her surgery in Singapore was initially a success, Ms Murray died from complications 15 days later.

Her father told The Sunday Times that shortly before her death, his daughter spoke about her desire to raise awareness about the dangers of drugs.

Mr Murray and an official from the Education Department have discussed how his daughter's death could be used to teach students about drug abuse.

The acting president of the WA Council of State School Organisations, Kylie Catto, said Mr Murray's plan could be incorporated into the government-funded School Drug Education and Road Awareness program.

About 80 per cent of government schools run the classes, which are organised by the Drug and Alcohol Office.

"If Claire's story can help one kid, then that's a positive," Ms Catto said.

Mr Murray said a foundation, Claire We Care, was being set up to raise money to support drug education in schools. It will also support families in crisis and raise awareness of organ donation.

Mr Murray said part of the drug education campaign should be paid for by Proceeds of Crime funding.