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Originally posted by charlize:
Economy slowing down?
How come prices of everything keep going up in SG?
Prices go up is to help the downturn arrive faster, so that they can also go faster. It is quite frustrating to guess and wait, they decide to up the prices or so called, cost of living to make people work harder, wary and sacre of no job, and finally, to expedite the downturn arrival faster, so that after the downturn, they can up the prices again.Logic?
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Originally posted by bowah:
Prices go up is to help the downturn arrive faster, so that they can also go faster. It is quite frustrating to guess and wait, they decide to up the prices or so called, cost of living to make people work harder, wary and sacre of no job, and finally, to expedite the downturn arrival faster, so that after the downturn, they can up the prices again.Logic?
You deserve a PhD.
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It is a confidence issue.
With all the national debt and false accounts coming out of the carpet, it will take a while for the people to start spending as most of the money will be used on buying inflated food prices due to environmental issues.
It is a vicious cycle caused by 1% of the society and affecting the 95% of the society.
It will take a longer time for the environmental problems to be fixed.
Meanwhile, there will be lots of jobless people causing lots of unrest around the world.
2012 will be a challenging year for all.
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Originally posted by bowah:
Prices go up is to help the downturn arrive faster, so that they can also go faster. It is quite frustrating to guess and wait, they decide to up the prices or so called, cost of living to make people work harder, wary and sacre of no job, and finally, to expedite the downturn arrival faster, so that after the downturn, they can up the prices again.Logic?
The Lee Kuan Yew , Lee Hsien Loong PAP government is concern about money, no money no talk! They are not making sure if prices are raised reasonably. In Taiwan, the govt is fast to investigate on price rise in products and will not hesitate to impose fine on unreasonable, unfair rise of price in products.
Here is the more rise the better, father son and PAP reap the profits.
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Originally posted by fibytprsu:
The Lee Kuan Yew , Lee Hsien Loong PAP government is concern about money, no money no talk! They are not making sure if prices are raised reasonably. In Taiwan, the govt is fast to investigate on price rise in products and will not hesitate to impose fine on unreasonable, unfair rise of price in products.
Here is the more rise the better, father son and PAP reap the profits.
Pls don't put the blame on Mr Lee Kuan Yew .Pls put blames from the second generation leadership .
We cannot only blame Lee Kuan Yew for appointed more Economists as our Leaders .
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As for current system .... i don't blame him at all .
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Originally posted by Poolman:
Pls don't put the blame on Mr Lee Kuan Yew .Pls put blames from the second generation leadership .
We cannot only blame Lee Kuan Yew for appointed more Economists as our Leaders .
Ya Lee Kuan yew Your Idol is perfect, we all not perfect. ball carrier -
Originally posted by fibytprsu:
Ya Lee Kuan yew Your Idol is perfect, we all not perfect. ball carrier
Nobody is perfect , he makes wrong decision as well .He did overall well during his terms as Prime Minister from Independence , were you born ?
Singaporeans in trouble after he passed his baton .
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lets juz hope for the better..........
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Times are bad.
And they might get worse.
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Originally posted by Medicated Oil:
It is a confidence issue.
With all the national debt and false accounts coming out of the carpet, it will take a while for the people to start spending as most of the money will be used on buying inflated food prices due to environmental issues.
It is a vicious cycle caused by 1% of the society and affecting the 95% of the society.
It will take a longer time for the environmental problems to be fixed.
Meanwhile, there will be lots of jobless people causing lots of unrest around the world.
2012 will be a challenging year for all.
I do not hold any PhD, just sec 2 final examination result. But thru the years, my observation are realistic in nature, because we read the real ground that is happening, not by the book cover, and certainly not from the 3rd to the 1st world of sort books.All I can conclude on a recession is this.
Recession is a time for the rich to capitalise their earning, in layman term, meaning it time for them to collect and consolidate all their profit before the next wave of opportunities begins.
It is also a time for the poors who invested or worked all these years to get poorer thru their lost in job, cut in wages, in investment cum insurance, high inflation and rise in prices of goods including essential daily goods that everyone needs like housing and transportation and rice.
And the recovery period as I noticed happen when the poor are at it poorest form, hungery and kowtow to anything that can get them some $$, that is where the rich start to recovery the recession by exploiting the hunger poors further leading to another booming period and the cycle goes on and on.
My sense of recession is very simple, being poor, once I manage get abit richer, recession is near, because the rich cannot afford too many poor to get rich, otherwise, no one to exploit on.
If you translate that into TD trades, once I started to get net profit higher in my day to day driving, they start to increase fuel prices, rental prices, reduce rebate, or poorer quality of maintenances with cheap labour and so on. In another words, recession is a time for them to depress you further down the poorer order, that is why, sometime, it is called Depression
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Originally posted by bowah:
I do not hold any PhD, just sec 2 final examination result. But thru the years, my observation are
realistic in nature, because we read the real ground that is
happening, not by the book cover, and certainly not from the 3rd to
the 1st world of sort books.All I can conclude on a recession is this.
Recession is a time for the rich to capitalise their earning, in layman term, meaning it time for them to collect and consolidate all their profit before the next wave of opportunities begins.
It is also a time for the poors who invested or worked all these years to get poorer thru their lost in job, cut in wages, in investment cum insurance, high inflation and rise in prices of goods including essential daily goods that everyone needs like housing and transportation and rice.
And the recovery period as I noticed happen when the poor are at it poorest form, hungery and kowtow to anything that can get them some $$, that is where the rich start to recovery the recession by exploiting the hunger poors further leading to another booming period and the cycle goes on and on.
My sense of recession is very simple, being poor, once I manage get abit richer, recession is near, because the rich cannot afford too many poor to get rich, otherwise, no one to exploit on.
If you translate that into TD trades, once I started to get net profit higher in my day to day driving, they start to increase fuel prices, rental prices, reduce rebate, or poorer quality of maintenances with cheap labour and so on. In another words, recession is a time for them to depress you further down the poorer order, that is why, sometime, it is called Depression
That is why increasing gst is to help the poor.
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Originally posted by Poolman:
Nobody is perfect , he makes wrong decision as well .He did overall well during his terms as Prime Minister from Independence , were you born ?
Singaporeans in trouble after he passed his baton .
I have alway wonder that without LKY, what will be like today, who knows, we could had achieved swiss standard 20s ago.Because of what LKY did, it does not imply that some other people cannot do it better than him. He had removed almost all his political foes in one night without a blink of an eyes, which ultimately make him the hero of your eyes, but didn't he privatised most state companies to as to enhance competitiveness which ultimately, removed the iron rice bowl mentality of civil servants, because he said competition give way to productivity, creativity, innovation and continious improvement. Why then, he do not allow competition in politics?
In 1987, before he passed his baton go lau Goh, they already pre planned the immigration policy, but he stand behind the veil of control and let Lau Goh do the foreign immigration open gate policy to take place, the idea was to have a 6.5million peoples, but by 5.5m, look at our mrt and crowd on the street, our society and our people suffering from jobs, to housing, to all kind of crimes and funny culture. You call that mistake?
Do you know the best way of ruling in the world is to rule with a velvet glove hand or so called, behind the scene, because you will not take all the shit, you only take the good, and that is why you protray him as good and forever as good? But if in the 60s, someone other than him ruled singapore, could it be that we are better off, maybe no foreigners, maybe our birthrate will not stop at 2??? and maybe you would not have to rent taxi and alway at the mercy of taxi companies directives but instead, having a license to own your own taxi.
A minister mentor, a senior minister mentor, or whatever you call it, do you believe he had ready pass on his baton and forget all about it?
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Originally posted by bowah:
I have alway wonder that without LKY, what will be like today, who knows, we could had achieved swiss standard 20s ago.I think that by killing off chinese education, Harry Lee Kuan Yew also weakened the chinese entrepreneurial drive and thus weakened the Singapore economy. The potential of Singapore's economy really became stifled under Harry Lee Kuan Yew.
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Originally posted by bowah:
maybe our birthrate will not stop at 2???One of the most disastrous policies of Harry Lee Kuan Yew. It shows the lack of foresight.
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Originally posted by Dalforce 25:
One of the most disastrous policies of Harry Lee Kuan Yew. It shows the lack of foresight.
Pls do not blame KY Lee .
That time we really do not have technology to be so advance like now .
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If KY Lee has got the technolgy to built more flats like Duxton Plain ..... will he say 2 is enough ?
That time it cost alot of money to built OCBC Building off Chulia Street ..... we just do not have those money to built Singapore .
Pls don't blame him for these .
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anyway lets all hope for a better tml for our children...........
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—Albert Einstein (1879–1955)
A human being is a part of the whole, called by us the "Universe," a part limited in time and space. He experiences himself, his thoughts and feelings, as something separate from the rest – a kind of optical delusion of his consciousness. This delusion is a kind of prison for us, restricting us to our personal desires and to affection for a few persons nearest to us. Our task must be to free ourselves from this prison by widening our circle of compassion to embrace all living creatures and the whole of nature in its beauty. Nobody is able to achieve this completely, but the striving for such achievement is in itself a part of the liberation and a foundation for inner security.
—Albert Einstein (1879–1955)
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Originally posted by komade:
anyway lets all hope for a better tml for our children...........
Brother, I thought your future will be in motherland, hope your kids will grow up well there, cool as a motherlander, smart as a singaporean. -
Originally posted by Poolman:
Pls do not blame KY Lee .
That time we really do not have technology to be so advance like now .
LKY lah, you put it as KY Lee, sound very disrespect to him, those girls at Joo chiat and Geyland like to offer me KY.That time, there is also not much high educated cambridge lawyer around but a lots of kampong/village peoples, the only thing I admired him is that he took his opportunity well, in 50s, when in collectiveness, he joined force with many parties, including the communist party, on a common goal to remove the British and gain independency after India got theirs in 1949. And I believe in the 50s, he already secretly planned his move at his oxley rise house, because he is a opportunist who pre plan his move before anyone can see it. And in the 60s, in removed all his brothers in arm who fought and championed singapore with him. Politics is not about technology, it is about power struggling, sabotaging and do the impossible to become possible, it can be as sweet as sugar and also as dirtiest as the shit house. I would said he is a good politician, because he practiced whatever is mentioned above, however and sadly and narrowly, most see the sweetener side of it.
In human existence it is not about you take vegetable or meat, it is about moderate, as the doctrine of Guatama use to say or write, Seek the middle way, because the extreme of both can be dangerous to one sin. Seek the middle way of lesser thought of pride or glory but with utmost humility. Politician are not to be looked or gauged as idol with die hard fan, they are to be judged for by the peoples who paid him or her to be.
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Originally posted by bowah:
That time, there is also not much high educated cambridge lawyer around but a lots of kampong/village peoples, the only thing I admired him is that he took his opportunity well, in 50s, when in collectiveness, he joined force with many parties, including the communist party, on a common goal to remove the British and gain independency after India got theirs in 1949.
And I believe in the 50s, he already secretly planned his move at his oxley rise house, because he is a opportunist who pre plan his move before anyone can see it. And in the 60s, in removed all his brothers in arm who fought and championed singapore with him.
Politics is not about technology, it is about power struggling, sabotaging and do the impossible to become possible, it can be as sweet as sugar and also as dirtiest as the shit house. I would said he is a good politician, because he practiced whatever is mentioned above, however and sadly and narrowly, most see the sweetener side of it.
I doubt Harry wanted to get rid of the british. I think what he wanted was to be in political power. He never fought for the cause of independence of Singapore from Britain. That is why he suppressed the role played by the chinese dialect groups in fighting imperialism and colonialism.
The lost history of Lee Kuan Yew
After his education in Britain, Lee Kuan Yew returned to Singapore in 1949 to practise as a lawyer in the law firm Laycock and Ong. He became the honorary legal adviser for several trade unions after being acquainted with their leaders (in 1951) and subsequently caught the public eye in February 1952, when the Postal Workers Union succeeded, with his guidance, in obtaining important concessions from the colonial government.According to his memoirs and this website, Lee Kuan Yew then proceeded to form the PAP with the help of the communists. Yet these sources conveniently neglect to mention Lee Kuan Yew’s involvement in the Singapore Progressive Party in the 1951 legislative elections. In fact, Lee acted as the election agent for his boss John Laycock, helping him to manage his campaign and canvass on his behalf. (See here and here for proof) He had thus entered into politics even before he became involved in the trade unions’ dispute with the British. (Polling day for the 1951 legislative elections was on 10 April, we can assume that his political activities with the SPP started months before that)
If I may speculate, LKY joined the SPP initially to build up his political career there. However when the Rendel Constitution expanded the electoral rolls to include all local-born as voters, resulting in a significant increase in Chinese voters, LKY decided to jump ship and formed the PAP in 1954 because he saw that the SPP lacked the support of the Chinese working class. (So the next time LKY condemns politicians who change political parties, you know where he’s coming from)
Yet the problem isn’t solely that LKY jumped ship and didn’t care to tell anyone about his great experience in his memoirs. The bigger problem lies in the fact that LKY supported the SPP despite the fact that it was A) pro-British in both its policies and in its composition of members (mostly English-speaking upper class professionals) B) unsupportive of achieving independence (it merely paid lip-service to the idea by declaring in October 1952, its objective of Singapore achieving independence through a Singapore-Malaya merger without setting a target date)
LKY’s miraculous change of heart on these issues when he joined the PAP only demonstrates how the pursuit of power can sometimes make one very flexible about their beliefs. Unfortunately for us, this flexibility of LKY’s did not extend to the area of political freedoms.
http://asiancorrespondent.com/7341/is-lee-kuan-yew-more-interested-in-power-money-or-altruism/
About This Book
The May 13 Generation was the first belonging to the immigrant communities from China to grapple with the issues of being Malayan/Singaporean, breaking irrevocably with the received wisdoms of their elders, and in a political climate where their explorations were deemed to be subversive.
This book comprises the recollections penned by the participants of the era of the 1950s, where their generation was in the forefront of the anti-colonial movement, and the work of academic researchers who have examined the historical framework and context of the period, as well as how it has been made to fit in to the country's mainstream history.
The researchers have also examined the students' cultural expressions, whether it is in art, drama, dance or literature and found to be socially engaged, and grappling with the question of who they were as a people. The cultural explorations of that period have been forgotten or repudiated. It is revealing just how this amnesia and silence has become so set. It is also impossible to imagine the demands that age had put on this generation of youths.
http://www.selectbooks.com.sg/getTitle.aspx?SBNum=051670
History of anti-colonialism and anti-imperialism movement against the british in Singapore is largely suppressed by the PAP regime.
For the simple reason that Harry Lee Kuan Yew worked with the british to suppress the movement.
many English-educated Babas re-emphasised their allegiance to the British Empire and were afraid that full independence might harm their still privileged position, the vast majority of Chinese-educated Chinese were vehemently anti-colonial and anti-imperialist.
A HIGHER CLASS OF CHINESE
AS "sons of the soil", the Straits Chinese British Association's Straits Chinese defended their citizenship (or subjecthood) rights against the China-born Chinese and those first-generation Singapore-born Chinese who had a dual loyalty.
The chasm between the Babas and the sinkehs (literally "guests", or recent immigrants from China) may also be illustrated by the typical occupations of the China-born Chinese which self-conscious Babas would have shunned...
http://www.asiawind.com/pub/forum/fhakka/mhonarc/msg01319.html
The key to understand Singapore politics and Singapore history from 1945 onwards is this:
The answer lies in a historical division in Singapore's Chinese community between the babas and the sinkeh. The sinkeh, comprising the majority of the city-state's population, were the recent immigrants from China, or whose parents were born in China. They spoke Chinese, lived like Chinese and considered themselves overseas Chinese. In Indonesia, such Chinese were called the totok.
The babas, on the other hand, also known as Straits Chinese, were Chinese more in name than practice. They were the descendants of the very early Chinese immigrants (Hokkiens from the Fujian province) to the straits settlements of Malaya (Penang, Singapore and Malacca). They assimilated with both the local Malays and the colonising British, whom they especially admired. The babas developed their own culture, cuisine and language - Malay liberally sprinkled with Hokkien.
The sinkeh were the traders, the coolies and the shophouse owners. The babas became the lawyers, the civil servants and the politicians; they attended the local English-language schools run in the tradition of the UK's public schools, and Oxford and Cambridge. If the sinkeh received an overseas education at all, it was in Nanking or another university in China. Although the sinkeh dominated Singapore's population, it was the babas who dominated public decision-making. In effect, a baba minority captured sinkeh Singapore, and that minority's attitudes were more those of Victorian England than China.
It was the babas who were the framers of Singapore's rules and institutions. Many of Singapore's most prominent Chinese have had baba backgrounds. Lee Kuan Yew, who became prime minister of Singapore aged just 35, is the most obvious example. He claims a Hakka heritage, although his upbringing was that of a baba: at home, he spoke English with his parents and baba Malay to his grandparents. "Mandarin was totally alien to me and unconnected with my life," Lee said of his childhood.
For Lee, Chineseness was an acquired skill and later a political necessity. He was not brought up as a Chinese with a focus on China, but as a baba who looked to England. He followed the conventional career path of a baba and went to London to study law. And so Lee Kuan Yew of Singapore became Harry Lee of Fitzwilliam College, Cambridge. His father had given him and two of his brothers English, as well as Chinese, names. Did Lee run Singapore as a piece of Asia mired in Chinese ways? No. He ran it in a manner to which a British colonial administrator would have aspired.
http://www.managementtoday.co.uk/news/648273/
answer lies in a historical division in Singapore's Chinese community between the babas and the sinkeh.
Lee Kuan Yew, who became prime minister of Singapore aged just 35, is the most obvious example.
He claims a Hakka heritage, although his upbringing was that of a baba: at home, he spoke English with his parents and baba Malay to his grandparents. "Mandarin was totally alien to me and unconnected with my life," Lee said of his childhood.
If you don't know that Harry Lee Kuan Yew is a hakka peranakan and that he is opposed to the dialect chinese in Singapore, you will understand nothing about Singapore politics.
If you understand that Harry Lee Kuan Yew is a hakka peranakan and that he is opposed to the dialect chinese in Singapore, you will understand everything about Singapore politics.
That is the key that opens the door to understanding Singapore politics.
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Originally posted by bowah:
Brother, I thought your future will be in motherland, hope your kids will grow up well there, cool as a motherlander, smart as a singaporean.let them be here n study me go back motherland retire, they wan
to stay here so be it.............
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well if the economy is slowing down, maybe u can try this stuff below...
How Not To Waste Money
How To Live on Practically Nothing
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that is an individual's perspective...the state's view is for you to spend and gyrate the economy..