Iveco - You sure? There is no corruption in govt offices muchOriginally posted by iveco:IK, I understand how you people feel back in KL. I believe Ah Hao is innocent, especially from the behaviour of Huang Shuying and her boyfriend. The lesson we can learn from here is not to place too much trust in mainland Chinese. You guys have Suhakam and the like because PDRM is really rotten. However, I think it is a good idea that SPF be placed under public scrutiny as well. Singaporean institutions don't seem very accountable in general.
Originally posted by Poopie-Head:What you mean by change idea? You mean I change my mind, izzit?
Oh... I thought you juz posted saying that they don't owe the public anything? So fast change idea liao? A reminder of ur previous post -
As for why the parents owe the media, volunteers and people who donated the pek kim, I have already spelt out very clearly in my previous post.This I agree is a mistake on the parents' side (If it can be proven that they did promise that). If they really said that, they must have said it on impulse. Morally, it is wrong to say something to the media but do another thing. But still, legally, they still reserve the right not to fulfill that.
think u didn't read my post well. Yes, they were VOLUNTEERs who would not expect any returns or benefits, but the parents still owe the volunteers a BIG FAVOR. You know what is "ren2 qing2 zhai4"? They would be ungrateful if they think otherwise. If u still think nothing of it, and u can't understand what I'm talking about, it juz goes to show that u're the ungrateful sort.Ok, so you mean to return the ren qing, they must announce how much they have? Does that mean thanking the volunteer which they did is not enough? In the first place, the volunteers did not even complain that the parents did not "compensate" them for their time & effort. They are not the one who demand to know the pek kim amount by saying "Hey, we helped you. You should show your gratitude by letting us know how much you have". It is those who did not contribute anything (no help, no money contributed) who demanded that. Strange, huh?
some people might argue that they gave the pek kim thinking that the parents would donate part of it to charity!But has any of the donors argued on this?
why do you think so many people are angry about this? It's not because they kay po, it's because of the COMBINATION all these issues that happen that caused people to suspect their honesty.Kaypoh people are usually angry over issues that are none of their concern. In this case, none "angry" people are the volunteers or donors.
So much that the greed can overcome a person's conscience.What conscience? He didn't do anything wrong. Neither did he use "dirty" method to get those money. But of course, if anybody could prove that the parents pretended to cry in front of the media to win our sympahty and get people to contribute the pek kim, then you are right to say that they have betrayed their conscience.
it juz goes to show that u're the ungrateful sortHey, this is uncalled for.
Originally posted by foxwalk:honeybunz auntie, did they engage a killer from your company?
Who can forget the OTC vs GIC sage in 1999?Originally posted by sbst275:Iveco - You sure? There is no corruption in govt offices much
Originally posted by Honeybunz:Quote (and I repeat) from my previous post:
What has thanking people got to do with owing anybody anything?
You can help me carry things and I say "Thank you". But that doesn't mean I owe you anything.
Hey, this is uncalled for.![]()
I also won't comment anymore. Not imaginative enough to contribute anything, cuz hv not been watching enough movies and tv dramas.Originally posted by nightzip:hohoho, this thread is not finished yet?
just saying that i won't be commenting anymore on this. Got tired of this discussion. Enjoy dudes!![]()
your thinking isn't even clear enough to distinguish separate issues on their own.Originally posted by Honeybunz:I also won't comment anymore. Not imaginative enough to contribute anything, cuz hv not been watching enough movies and tv dramas.
Have fun speculating and posting, everyone!![]()
Was Zheng Wenhai ever part of a kidnap gang that targeted their fellow mainlanders? According to my mother, his name sounds so familiar because he was charged with kidnapping in 1999 or 2000.Originally posted by Poopie-Head:your thinking isn't even clear enough to distinguish separate issues on their own.
The latest news about HN's step-father lying about his criminal past in singapore is just another evidence that his "honesty" is highly questionable - exactly what I said in my previous post.![]()
Encik Intrakota, saya amat bangga atas kebimbangan anda terhadap kaum cina di Malaysia. Sebagai seorang cina yang PERNAH tinggal di malaysia, saya cuma ada 1 alasan baik kenapa saya harus meniggalkan negara itu, iaitu kaum cina TIDAK dianggap sebagai rakyat yang SAMA tahap seperti kaum melayu, mereka sering dianggap sebagai "pendatang" dan perkataan ini pernah dikatakan oleh ahli UMNO.Originally posted by IntraKota:If our pple are not treated properly on your soil, you must be prepared to suffer the consequences. Putrajaya has every right to get back to you in whatever way they like.
Ah Hao is likely innocent. Zheng Wenhai has a criminal record and deserves more scrutiny. Also, my cousin in Melaka is a close friend of one DAP guy. Apparently DAP thinks SPF used cruel methods to force a confession out of him.Originally posted by AMD2004:Mr Intrakota, i am very proud of u for having such caring thought over our malaysian chinese man. As a chinese , who once live in M'sia, i have only 1 reason why i left that country and become a citizen here, it is because chinese in malaysia, will never be consider a same citizen status as the malays. ( is this call justice, fairness, human rights? ur quran teaches u to treat other races unfairly? ). We are often called "immigrants" , and these word has once said by member of UMNO. Hussien Onn son ( forgot his idiotic name) once mentioned it too.
And more too add, there are so many chinese gals' rape cases in malaysia. So, WHY never the newspaper mentioned the accused or who actually raped those chinese gals? Is because of u MALAYS watch too much Jap porns and cant control urself. I rarely come across a chinese ppl who rape a chinese gal in msia. Mostly malay in msia are fond of raping, even raping thier own daughter.
In Singapore, we didnt mistreat the malays like how u treat the chinese in msia. One day, God will punish u ppl terriblely. Learn from spore malays, at least they are much more discipline, highly educated, and know better english than u malays in msia. Knows nothing but only know how to show off.
Wan to cut our water...go die lah.
Ok, if i accept the view of tiny minority are bad, not all, then do u agree on chinese were never treated as a "same " class of citizen as the malays? i udn mind the 3 conditions that we agreed on the hak istimewa, but why when anytime we have dispute, they sure shout as us calling us pendatang? do u think is fair? I luv msia, and that was past. I hate the government then since they never treat us like a normal citizen. Look at all the quota of university entry...do u think this is a fair education? Who wans to spend money to go outside so expensive to study? is becoz the government limit the chinese? Am i right?Originally posted by iveco:Ah Hao is likely innocent. Zheng Wenhai has a criminal record and deserves more scrutiny. Also, my cousin in Melaka is a close friend of one DAP guy. Apparently DAP thinks SPF used cruel methods to force a confession out of him.
BTW, I've lived briefly in KL before. Not all Malays are bad. Only a tiny minority.
Not just the Chinese. All the non-bumiputras. Tun Razak & his succesors thought they could advance their own people by having affirmative action. In the City-state down south, elitism was exploited to the max. IMO, KL & SG are opposing poles of a magnet. A cross-comparison of SG, MY & AU will show that option #3 is the most balanced.Originally posted by AMD2004:Ok, if i accept the view of tiny minority are bad, not all, then do u agree on chinese were never treated as a "same " class of citizen as the malays? i udn mind the 3 conditions that we agreed on the hak istimewa, but why when anytime we have dispute, they sure shout as us calling us pendatang? do u think is fair? I luv msia, and that was past. I hate the government then since they never treat us like a normal citizen. Look at all the quota of university entry...do u think this is a fair education? Who wans to spend money to go outside so expensive to study? is becoz the government limit the chinese? Am i right?
I dun quite understand what u r typing, however just answer me, is this fair to give quota for education? Is it fair to call a chinese who born in malayisa pendatang? Then they have to buck up themselves if they are backwards. How cant they press down the chinese and give them so much priority? This is about racial fairness. The non-bumi are also malaysian citizen as well.Originally posted by iveco:Not just the Chinese. All the non-bumiputras. Tun Razak & his succesors thought they could advance their own people by having affirmative action. In the City-state down south, elitism was exploited to the max. IMO, KL & SG are opposing poles of a magnet. A cross-comparison of SG, MY & AU will show that option #3 is the most balanced.
It is possible to do it discreetly. Basically, this is how the welfare state works.Originally posted by AMD2004:It is like, this guy is rich, and the other guy is poor. So, one can rob the rich man house and give the money to the poor? u cant right.