Gays and lesbians
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hey everyone.. i would like to hear more about your opinions on the topic: " do you think the government in singapore has double standards on the issue of gays and lesbians??"
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Sounds like a piece of homework due this coming friday.
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lolx, in how many words?
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hahaz... actually... its a debate...
so plz hlp k??? thanks everyone -
An interesting topic to debate would be "Should Homosexuals be allowed to adopt children"
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I see I see,get so much ideas..umm
Actually , you must search for the articles..
here's a clue..
Search all news articles, comments made by our leaders on pink dollars and alot of stuffs...find out what they've said..and allowing gays to work in civil service..
Next... + the article they recently said on gays causing AIDS or something -
homosexuals are gay.
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Les are allowed to become combat instructors in SAF, but their gay counterparts aren't.
Les are treated like common women, but their gay counterparts are seen as lesser humans. -
gay men cannot command respect...Originally posted by iveco:Les are allowed to become combat instructors in SAF, but their gay counterparts aren't.
Les are treated like common women, but their gay counterparts are seen as lesser humans.
besides the potential for abuse by gay instructors are greater...
imagine you have a gay captain or major...
he everyday demand recruits/private to do gay stuff for him...
very possible rite...
but with les instructors... its different liao...
they are into women... not men...
not so much potential for sexual abuse... -
x2Originally posted by hyuuga neji:gay men cannot command respect...
besides the potential for abuse by gay instructors are greater...
imagine you have a gay captain or major...
he everyday demand recruits/private to do gay stuff for him...
very possible rite...
but with les instructors... its different liao...
they are into women... not men...
not so much potential for sexual abuse... -
then again i think it's an extrapolation of the issue..the main problem here is the fact that the men here are not getting married to reproduce for the country's depleting population..it's similar to the issue of the career women who refuse marriage..Originally posted by hyuuga neji:gay men cannot command respect...
besides the potential for abuse by gay instructors are greater...
imagine you have a gay captain or major...
he everyday demand recruits/private to do gay stuff for him...
very possible rite...
but with les instructors... its different liao...
they are into women... not men...
not so much potential for sexual abuse...
and apparently too, a lot of homosexual men hold important positions in the bureaucracy and other civil service occupations..why else do you think the pink dollar was used as a justification for allowing the gay parties and all to take place? of course, until the aids scare which claimed that 33% of the men infected were homosexual..then again, what happened to the rest of the 67%? aren't they heterosexual?
so i guess the argument here is about the moral issues that our predominantly asian society and mentality is clinging on to..homosexuality is seen to be a western ill which lky has for a long time, among other things like the career woman, condemned..
hope this helps in some way..:p -
I understand that if i put a wise reply here, i will most likely be quoted by ST on Sundays
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and da irony is hor...gay exist in ancient china wor....Originally posted by Aryaan:and mentality is clinging on to..homosexuality is seen to be a western ill which lky has for a long time, not a western thing leh. -
i did say it is SEEN to be a western ill..but the truth is that it's been alive for a long time in our world history..even in japan and india..Originally posted by color ghost:and da irony is hor...gay exist in ancient china wor.... not a western thing leh. -
there are historical documents that prove the wide acceptance of homos in greek, japanese,roman and even middle eastern societies of old.
to the greeks..they didnt see anything wrong with men playing with men..its something like being bi meant having the best of both worlds.
to the japs and middle easterners, they viewed women as inferior creatures therefore it is totally ok for men, the superior species to please one another sexually.
info: courtesy of the discovery channel and nat geo. -
to add on. for the greeks, as long as u weren't playing with someone from your level of social standing, it was fine. they had a strict social hierachy and for any relationship, one person MUST be lower in the social order. That meant grown men could have relationships with slave boys because social order was maintained, but it would have been disaster if 2 grown men of equal social status had a relationship because then social order was broken.Originally posted by vito_corleone:there are historical documents that prove the wide acceptance of homos in greek, japanese,roman and even middle eastern societies of old.
to the greeks..they didnt see anything wrong with men playing with men..its something like being bi meant having the best of both worlds.
to the japs and middle easterners, they viewed women as inferior creatures therefore it is totally ok for men, the superior species to please one another sexually.
info: courtesy of the discovery channel and nat geo. -
to add on to that, and definitely a major taboo if the man of a higher social status is taking the role of the "recipient".Originally posted by HENG@:to add on. for the greeks, as long as u weren't playing with someone from your level of social standing, it was fine. they had a strict social hierachy and for any relationship, one person MUST be lower in the social order. That meant grown men could have relationships with slave boys because social order was maintained, but it would have been disaster if 2 grown men of equal social status had a relationship because then social order was broken. -
yup!Originally posted by color ghost:to add on to that, and definitely a major taboo if the man of a higher social status is taking the role of the "recipient". -
It was also not uncommon for Chinese emperors to engage in sexual relationships with male courtiers. How can we say homosexuality is a Western ill? Only a senile old man with a flawed version of Confucianism would think so.
