Why God and Jesus are asterixed in some posts?
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Originally posted by obiwan:There is a glass filled full of water, in order to put more water into it, some water must be poured away first. The water is like our brain, mind. In order for someone to accept new things, his mind must be free of bias, constraint. A person mind has to be open in order to create new things... Scientists, inventors are one of them.
Sometimes when CHANGE is DRASTIC or 'RIDICULOUS'.... Even Scientists have problems accepting NEW IDEAS.... Let alone a 'normal human'...?
And FAITH is a VERY CONTRADICTING thing... With it, SOMETIMES you cannot break through.... But WITHOUT it...? SOMETIMES you CANNOT MOVE ON...?
PS. By the way, I'm talking about FAITH... I'm not interested in any GOD or RELIGION topic for now... -
dui liao dui liaoOriginally posted by Doom:Well...for one thing..i dun think that Buddha was poisoned to death..hmm..where did you hear that frm har??*Juz Curious* anyway..its from the books that says abt the life of 'Si Jia Muo Ni' that i came to know that he did not die of indigestion..but he attained enlightment and left his earthly shell into buddhahood...
u forgot to mention the tree he was sitting under...
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I have a QUESTION for ALL? HOW COME NOBODY SPEAK UP FOR DEVILISM huh...?
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ya, why huhOriginally posted by Devil1976:I have a QUESTION for ALL? HOW COME NOBODY SPEAK UP FOR DEVILISM huh...?
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Because no one will say himself is evil, not even the most evil person. Not even Hitler.Originally posted by Devil1976:I have a QUESTION for ALL? HOW COME NOBODY SPEAK UP FOR DEVILISM huh...?
Every person has excuses for himself when he commits evil.
Take Hitler for example: his reason of massacre of the innocent is to rid the world of scums, the weak and useless and bring the world to a New Age , the Third Reich.
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do u embrace "ren xing ben shan" or "ren xing ben e"
there is an angel and a devil in us..juz which one more dominant..
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HEY! It's ME it's ME... I'm on TV...??? :pOriginally posted by obiwan:ya, why huh -
HEY! It's ME it's ME... I'm on TV...??? :p[/B][/QUOTE]Originally posted by Devil1976:[QUOTE]Originally posted by obiwan:
[b] ya, why huh
now you're famous... ppl start discuss abt you
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Hehheh... RIGHT... But I'm a DEVIL what..?Originally posted by Rapture:Because no one will say himself is evil, not even the most evil person. Not even Hitler.
Every person has excuses for himself when he commits evil.
Take Hitler for example: his reason of massacre of the innocent is to rid the world of scums, the weak and useless and bring the world to a New Age , the Third Reich.
[This message has been edited by Rapture (edited 24 January 2002).] Hehheh... HAPPY THINKING...? 
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Hehheh... Think ya POSTED this TOPIC before? :p AGAIN, my stand is the SAME... THEREOTICALLY SPEAKING.... 'Ren Xing' is 'ben e'.... (For non-Chinese's sake, 'ben e' means 'originally evil' in this context.. See? All your RELIGIOUS TOPICS makes this DEVIL a MORE SENSITIVE guy ALREADY? THANK YOU people lah.... ~Sigh...~) But in order to SURVIVE, they have to be 'ben shan'... ('ben shan' means originally kind) In this case, it's not really an appropriate Chinese term to use because it's not really ORIGINALLY or I would rather term INHERITENTLY... It would allow RECOGNITION from the others which is ESPECIALLY IMPORTANT during CHILDHOOD (think helplessness...) Even for later stage in life, making friends and SOCIALISING proved to be EQUALLY IMPORTANT... And POLITICS EMPHASIZE on the IMPORTANCE of such RECOGNITION on an even HIGHER LEVEL.... And RELIGION as Pulse (for the benefit of people who dunno him/her, this is a NICK...) has mentioned in his/her other worthy topic is often BLURRED with POLITICS because of the BENEFITS of such RECOGNITION...Originally posted by FireIce:do u embrace "ren xing ben shan" or "ren xing ben e"
there is an angel and a devil in us..juz which one more dominant..
The WHOLE IDEA? A START OFF with 'Evil' (in a sense? Would further elaborate when my theory is established...) and QUICKLY turns into 'Good' which is the TREND on MAJORITY... (Wanna play a game? Learn to play by the RULES..) And SLOWLY with the GAIN of POWER... TEMPTATIONs come in for one to revert into the 'Evil' self.... Being IN CONTROL of situations and all POWERFUL makes a man FEEL like a GOD.... Thus, pushing the 'equilibrium' back towards EVIL.... This is why (I think) a ALL MIGHTY GOD has to EXIST above us (may it be in TRUE SENSE or MENTALITY...)...
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In LIGHT I shall FEAR NOT. FOR what I AM is CUT so DEEP inside of ME.
I LIVE my FLESH and SOUL ONLY to BLEED for the OTHERS.
FEAR ME NOT. FOR I AM YOUR 'MASTER'. GIVE YOU STRENGTH. FOR YOU ARE MY 'ENEMY'.
DEVIL PHRASE I
I have no 'friends' nor 'family'.
I hold no past and see not future...
These are just samples of illusions....
I don't exist, but I shall live ETERNITY..... DEVIL PHRASE II
Though NOT the RIGHT thing to do,
This might be the ONLY NATURAL thing to be...
Just like heat is produced when work done...
EVIL is the GENERATION of SYSTEM FLAWS... DEVIL PHRASE III
In DREAMS you CAN NEVER DIE.....
For YOUR LIFE is about the EXISTENCE of....
Your Happiness.... Your Sadness... Your Pain.... Your Pleasure....
Like a painted sky, when it rains... All CEASE to BE... DEVIL PHRASE IV
When Law & Rules are there,
they are NOT about JUSTICE.
While reality & dreams are there,
they are NOT about SURVIVAL..
And Life & Death NOT about LIVING...
Good & Evil NOT about definitions....
IF truly there is EVIL, it is NOT just one of its kind......
DEVIL'S SEVENTH PHRASE
ße COOL, NOT s¢rr¥.... -
Oh..ya hor..i tink its theOriginally posted by FireIce:dui liao dui liao
u forgot to mention the tree he was sitting under...
(of cos is not apple tree like Newton's case)
Maha Bohdi tree that he sat on...oso got Cobra to come and open its hood to protect him from rain..got vixen spirits to disturb him...etc etc... -
God is just, and for those who lived without getting to hear about Christ will be dealt with separately after death, yet accountable to their sin and evils still. Sin and evil are blatant and ignorance cannot be faked. Besides, those who've heard of the good news, are now responsible and without excuse to respond. and accountable for their actions, like all of us here today.Originally posted by obiwan:This is no proof that you said, hitsquad. By only faith, you believe that, what you believe cannot be proof to anything, same for me. As for those questions you ask, i think it is pointless since nobody can said why it is like that. It is not right to answer something that we don't know and put everything to "God".
To answer your doubts, i will use a simple method of explaining.
"God" has different meaning based on what a person believe, your mind tells you "God" is Jesus, then to you, "God" will be that. Your own "ego" tells you what you think, believe, how you react to certain things, and it make up you. Your own perception of "life" and your every life will forge a being into you.
Imagine I would lock up a guy for life from baby, do you think he will know "God" as Jesus... the answer is no. You only believe because you heard of it, and your mind said "hey, this is the truth". And there are many humans who died who dont know christ, abortion, accident, death by birth, crazy ppl... and so on.
Please go ahead and live your life as a good christian.
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God made this world with laws, such as that of gravity, the disobedience of which will lead to serious consequences. Similarly He made the world with moral/spiritual laws as well, such as that the disobedience of which will prove eternally costly. Therefore, let the God who so loved the world that He gave us His only begotten son, Jesus Christ, heal your hurts in the way that He knows best. While it may not be in your ways, trust that He who made you and I, knows the best way, His way. Have a blessed day! -
sure i can prove it, all i need is for u to die. then i will show u.Originally posted by obiwan:see, this is what you understand, but can you proof it, nope... bible is a book, it doesnt proof it either.
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God made this world with laws, such as that of gravity, the disobedience of which will lead to serious consequences. Similarly He made the world with moral/spiritual laws as well, such as that the disobedience of which will prove eternally costly. Therefore, let the God who so loved the world that He gave us His only begotten son, Jesus Christ, heal your hurts in the way that He knows best. While it may not be in your ways, trust that He who made you and I, knows the best way, His way. Have a blessed day! -
and yes, it is difficult to walk, becos we are all entrenched and deeply stuck in sin, all our lives we will be cursed like this, adn the same for our children and the children of our children. all the sutras, philosophies in teh world will never make it easy becos there IS NO WAY OUT!Originally posted by obiwan:No point saying all this, who knows who is alive.... is jesus alive, he is if you think he is, is buddha dead, he is if you think he is...
50,000 ppl, but who is alive to said, dont you know ppl like to booast and change things. Buddha, how many ppl seen his death, his powers, but who is alive too to said...
My comments is that we couldn't be sure and nobody can provide definite facts and truth to things. These things are what we think only, we presume, we guess... but not verified... but 1 thing for sure, the purpose of all these is to make us into a better man... so that we can live a life without hurting one another... it is always easy to know the path, but always difficult to walk it...
now that is why we need Christ's sacrifice on the cross, His Death (the Death of God for the sake of Man), to pay off such a huge debt, so that we can be redeemed.
That a way to heaven can be accessed.
Otherwise, there is no way out, for the consequences of Sin are an eternal death in the pits of hell. Sorry.
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God made this world with laws, such as that of gravity, the disobedience of which will lead to serious consequences. Similarly He made the world with moral/spiritual laws as well, such as that the disobedience of which will prove eternally costly. Therefore, let the God who so loved the world that He gave us His only begotten son, Jesus Christ, heal your hurts in the way that He knows best. While it may not be in your ways, trust that He who made you and I, knows the best way, His way. Have a blessed day! -
obiwan, Christ said that the world would hate us, becos it hated Him first, He did the same thing that we are doing here, tellign people what they don't want to hear. Anywayz, in response to your other post about who is the mother of Jesus, well it's the virgin Mary. Now if u were a Christian before, u'd know that right?Originally posted by obiwan:hitsquad, i must said you have ruin your own name in sgforums. learning from who doesnt matter, it matters only if you got the real teachings, from what is see, you simply is an idiot, pardon me. please go home and stop post all this things since you cant reason properly. you only know a bit of buddhism and abit of christianity and please i am a christian b4, and i know what you are talking.... based on what i see, you are a impatient man who like to boast around your faith and understanding of things. the 2 faiths you are in, i believe you only learn the text, but the real meaning of it, you didnt get it, if not you would not have speak like that.
true, many buddhist doesnt get the real meanings, but i can see 1 christian here, that is you, who doesnt not know god, and have god in his heart.... please dont do this kind of postings , as it will make ppl hate your reglion even more. In fact, becos of ppl like you, christian suffered alot.
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God made this world with laws, such as that of gravity, the disobedience of which will lead to serious consequences. Similarly He made the world with moral/spiritual laws as well, such as that the disobedience of which will prove eternally costly. Therefore, let the God who so loved the world that He gave us His only begotten son, Jesus Christ, heal your hurts in the way that He knows best. While it may not be in your ways, trust that He who made you and I, knows the best way, His way. Have a blessed day! -
thank u, rapture. nice to see a friendly face on the battlefield.Originally posted by Rapture:We have a person here who knows a bit of Christianity is assuming another person just knowing a bit of Buddhism and abit of Christianity..
somemore accusing him of being impatient..
Funny lah..
Who is being impatient here?
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God made this world with laws, such as that of gravity, the disobedience of which will lead to serious consequences. Similarly He made the world with moral/spiritual laws as well, such as that the disobedience of which will prove eternally costly. Therefore, let the God who so loved the world that He gave us His only begotten son, Jesus Christ, heal your hurts in the way that He knows best. While it may not be in your ways, trust that He who made you and I, knows the best way, His way. Have a blessed day! -
well doom, wherever buddha went. nobody saw it. but 40-50000 saw Jesus resurrected after He died on the cross.Originally posted by Doom:Hi..
I think that dun have to argue with anyone here with regards to religion issues loe..as you should know by now..there are some that redily defend their religion to the core..i mean..thers no wrong in defending in what you believe in.
Look at Rapture for example..been a toaist and a buddhist for 21 yrs???(How did he do that...) he should know better that Buddhist and Toaist are two different religion..yes Toaist is branch from Buddhism..it is not that much like Buddhism..Toaist's gods are from legends..like the SUN WUKONG..GUAN ER YEA..TOA PEK GONG and many many more..you dun worship them in Buddhism...so i guess that he isn't much of both in his past 21 yrs..but then..he believed in GOD and thats good for him..coz he has found his GOD...
As for Hitsquad...maybe he did not find any truth in Buddhism..hence...he chose to beloeve in Christianity..well...at least they are believing in someone.. but for our case..we chose to believe in Buddha...that..is our decision..then main point here...is that no matter which GOD we believe in...they all teach the same thing...to do good..and abstain from evil..agree..
So..as long as that everyone practice their religion diligiently..one day..we will all go to where we are supposed to go..dictated by our own gods...who knows..maybe they are all the same...only in different names......
as for sai baba, he never walked on water nor calmed the storms. and if u ask him to die, i dont think he dares, becos he doesnt know if he can come back.
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God made this world with laws, such as that of gravity, the disobedience of which will lead to serious consequences. Similarly He made the world with moral/spiritual laws as well, such as that the disobedience of which will prove eternally costly. Therefore, let the God who so loved the world that He gave us His only begotten son, Jesus Christ, heal your hurts in the way that He knows best. While it may not be in your ways, trust that He who made you and I, knows the best way, His way. Have a blessed day! -
thank u for all ur questions abt Christianity, if u hv anymore, i'm sure we'll try our best to answer them. Praise God for the wonderful interest u hv shown. PEACE!
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God made this world with laws, such as that of gravity, the disobedience of which will lead to serious consequences. Similarly He made the world with moral/spiritual laws as well, such as that the disobedience of which will prove eternally costly. Therefore, let the God who so loved the world that He gave us His only begotten son, Jesus Christ, heal your hurts in the way that He knows best. While it may not be in your ways, trust that He who made you and I, knows the best way, His way. Have a blessed day! -
IT ALL STARTED BECOS OF THIS FELLA'S COMMENTS. SORRY, I JUST COULDN'T RESIST AFTERWARDS.Originally posted by Kyo23:It is because those words or terms are only recognised by those who believe and not by all in their education. To the rest, these terms don't mean anything and hence asterixed in those posts. Everyone who is educated can define Math terms clearly like trigonometry sin, cos and tan, scientific terms like H2O, etc etc. But what can we say about those religious terms? Of cos, it is better off to asterixed them off in their post until the time when it is being proven a fact, then they can do otherwise. A virtual being that's not proven existence, of course has no fixed name until it is recognised by all.
Simple reasoning and Please no flaming esp from those religious fanatic.
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God made this world with laws, such as that of gravity, the disobedience of which will lead to serious consequences. Similarly He made the world with moral/spiritual laws as well, such as that the disobedience of which will prove eternally costly. Therefore, let the God who so loved the world that He gave us His only begotten son, Jesus Christ, heal your hurts in the way that He knows best. While it may not be in your ways, trust that He who made you and I, knows the best way, His way. Have a blessed day! -
believe in your faith, hitsquad and rapture or other christians that might have seen our agrument here, i have nothing against it or whatever since both of you like you god so much. please go ahead and live a good christian life.
i just think that religion and faith of a person is like love, it is very objective. I might love my friend alot, but you might not... so it is always up to one opinion. You can't change the way I think nor I can change the way you think, it has to be submissive. Only if you have experience something, then you will change by your own will...
Maybe to you, you have experience God love, and you really believe it, good for you. I have nothing against your faith and your ppl and your religion. Please go ahead and spread whatever god news that you have and save as many ppl as you want, and wait for your Jesus to come again in glory.
As for me, i have experience something that you might not experience, that is why i choose my own path. I never have experience god love, and i dont know what it is like... but i have experience calmness, peace using my path. I guess religion has their own teachings and strong point and weak point which ppl can use it against them.
Maybe your god is the real god, your bible is the real word, what you said is truth, and your faith is perfect and everything about your god is perfect, so be it, go ahead and save more ppl.
To proof me your god is real, you want me to be dead??? yah, maybe when i am dead, your god will punish me, so be it, but what can you do, nothing... you can't even save me and you can enjoy in heaven, while i suffer in hell. you can't even tell god that please forgive obiwan, you can't because infront of god, you are just his son, and he won't listen to you for this, for he has said that whoever choose not to believe in christ, will suffer with the serpent in forever hell. it has been stated in the bible already. so what can you do for me... even though i have never kill a single soul, i have done around 10 times of blood donation, i have been helping the old folk home, i have donate to charity, i have help old , sick, young and all the good deed i have done...
just becuase i chose not believe christ, i have to suffer no matter what, so be it.... i have nothing against it, if hell i am going, i guess i have no regret because i choose it....
so tell me what can you do my me? tell me how you can save me? nothing, because you have no way, no ideas or whatsoever to do anything to help me. and in your 1 lifetime (no reincairnation for christians), you now got 1 soul you can't save....
So continue your own journey and I will continue mine. for you towards heaven, for me towards hell. Last but not least, pls continue your good faith and i sincerely hope you 2 save more ppl.
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WoOOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW.............Still haven finish, looks like an endless debate. Dun u pple feel tired?? Too bad out of 100% of world population, only 5% knows and appreciate what u pple are toking! I think its time to wake up . Can u all hear the sound of the cock?
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i forget to add why i want to be in hell, caused my relatives, my friends, my parents will be in hell next time because all of them know christ, but same like me they have rejected him.... i guess i rather be with my parents becuase they have given birth to me and brought me up, i will be a pig if i leave them there, so i rather be with them for eternity.
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It's sad to hear that.Originally posted by obiwan:i forget to add why i want to be in hell, caused my relatives, my friends, my parents will be in hell next time because all of them know christ, but same like me they have rejected him.... i guess i rather be with my parents becuase they have given birth to me and brought me up, i will be a pig if i leave them there, so i rather be with them for eternity.
Though your parents gave you your body , God gave you your soul. After you die, your body becomes ash and go back to the ground. therefore the real you - your soul - has no more bodily links with your parents anymore, meaning you are no longer their son.
But every soul has a direct relationship to God, whether good or bad relationship.
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Showing your anger now huh? What's next? Terrorism act? Just because someone asterixed off two sensitive words God and Jesus in order to avoid conflict, you could not resist? Is this a symptoms of religious fanatic?? Are you saint yet? Aren't you wasting your time then? Jia ba bo sai pang?? Hand itchy is it? Why not spend the time improving yourself more instead of showing off your anger and fanatism here? Judgement day coming...What the fu*k are you doing then?Originally posted by HitSquad:IT ALL STARTED BECOS OF THIS FELLA'S COMMENTS. SORRY, I JUST COULDN'T RESIST AFTERWARDS.
Come on. Answer this question. Are you saint yet to waste so much time posting all these rubbish ? Can you declare yourself sinless?
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You must be out of your mind asking others to die just to prove your god. What if he die and nothing is proven? So many pple die everyday, did you prove anything to them?Originally posted by HitSquad:sure i can prove it, all i need is for u to die. then i will show u.
Why not i suggest you go and die instead to demo to us your proof, come back and tell us instead since you suggested dying as way to prove. We will all throw away our knowledge, technology, close down all other universities and open only university teaching bible. How's that?