GENDER BASHING: RETORT BY MALES
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I apologise for the heady title.
Anyway, in my opinion, its just a sensationalization by the media. Gender topics are always a good seller. People are always quick to gibe about the opposite party to justify themselves.
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Newpaper article 22/05/05:
Little princesses
By Niroshi Sadanandan and Michelle Lee
May 22, 2005
THE men are hitting back.
Male university undergrads - labelled as whiners by their female counterparts - have lashed out, declaring the girls as demanding and manipulative.
These young women, the men add, also know how to squeeze out tears when necessary.
This campus rumpus follows The New Paper report yesterday which said that more than 70 per cent of women undergrads polled regarded the men as immature and whiny.
Now, about 70 per cent of the 100 men polled say they see campus women as little princesses who make unrealistic demands. But the rest said the girls are not so bad and are reasonable.
Mr Melvin Lee, 23, from NTU, said: 'Most girls want their boyfriends to sacrifice everything for them - their time with friends, their weekends.
'They want to go shopping together, do projects together and even study in pairs.
'Everything must be about her.'
Mr Cheong Li Wei, 24, an NTU communications student, said: 'Some girls expect guys to treat them like princesses.'
Everything from opening doors to giving free rides, meals and expensive presents, he added.
Mr Daniel Gan, 23, an NTU engineering student, said: 'They expect guys to drop them back home each time we have group outings.'
These girls take free rides for granted, not offering to compensate for petrol or buy drinks to thank them, he said.
Even worse are those who call him days before outings to arrange transport.
Mr Jan Han, 23, an NTU communications studies student, said a male friend became both Santa Claus and maid to his female classmate because she was unhappy that he couldn't attend her birthday party.
'To placate her, he took her for a candlelight dinner, bought her a $200 ring and helped clean her home.'
Some guys blame the influence of romantic movies which lead some women to expect to be swept off their feet by chivalrous men.
Mr Gan said: 'When my friend's girlfriend went overseas for an exchange programme, she forced him to buy a web-camera so they could see each other over the Internet.
'Whenever he didn't respond to her calls and phone messages quickly, she would cry and threaten a break-up.'
Women expect men to carry their books and bags. They demand chivalry while screaming for equal treatment, said a number of male undergrads.
According to Mr Marcus Lee, 23, from SIM, most men would would do simple things like open doors and hold the umbrellas. 'But even if we don't, girls shouldn't complain,' he said.
Mr Cheong had this advice for the women: 'Even if you are a damsel in distress, don't whine about your knight not coming to help you. Chivalry should be bestowed, not extorted.'
The men also complained that women indulge in emotional blackmail and throw tantrums.
Mr Melvin Lek, a 25-year old student from NIE, said: 'My girlfriend wants me to be early or at least punctual, but it's all right if she is late. If I'm late, I'm at the mercy of her moods.'
Mr Tam Ging Wien, 23, a computing NUS student, said: 'The most frustrating thing - they don't speak their minds.
'I've had girlfriends who'd just give looks that showed they were angry but refused to explain why. That's immature.'
And women are indecisive, complained the men. Said Mr Marc Daniel Nair, 23, an NUS Arts student: 'Many girls want to have their cake and eat it too.'
Don't do - and the men are not chivalrous. Do - and the women become suspicious, said Mr Aloysius Lim, 22, an NUS Arts undergraduate.
Although most men said women were demanding, only 50 per cent felt that those demands were unreasonable.
Mr Han said many men are actually 'quite willing to be used', especially if they like the girl. He said: 'It's fine to have expectations in a relationship. Just fulfil it - if she's happy, you're happy.'
Mr Andrew Zhang, 24, an engineering student from NTU, said: 'I think that as long as it's not too much, expecting guys to give in and be romantic is okay.
'After all, it makes girls more gracious and accepting, and helps guys to behave more like guys should.' -
Supplementary to the article above.
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NS will toughen princesses
WOMEN should go through military training.
This, said some male university undergraduates, would help make the women less demanding.
About 78 per cent of the men polled said their national service stint had made a world of difference to them.
Said Mr Samuel He, 21, of NTU: 'NS gives you a broader perspective on life - you experience so much more and meet a wide variety of people.'
Many men said NS made them tougher, both mentally and physically.
Mr Jared Foo, 23, from NTU, said: 'I knew a girl whose maid would go to the hostel to clean her room.
'No guy who's been through NS would ever call his mother and complain about anything.'
What about the women's complaint that men are indecisive?
Mr Li Siwei, a 21-year-old NUS student, said: 'When deciding where to eat, they'll say, 'I don't know' and 'It's up to you'. But when the guys decide, they still complain.'
Mr Jan Han, 23, from NTU, said: 'They are pro-feminism and yet they want chivalry. It's totally contradictory and you never know how they want you to behave.' -
sigh...being in a relationship is not all about the girl what...both sides have to learn how to give and take...sometimes the guy has to compromise and sometimes it is the girl's turn...And of course the girl should be understanding as well before she makes any demand towards her bf...
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it would be a nightmare giving them military trainings since they are princesses n demanding
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Originally posted by Werewolf:'No guy who's been through NS would ever call his mother and complain about anything.'
caramon.
Not true leh, yr article...
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Originally posted by chikopek:it would be a nightmare giving them military trainings since they are princesses n demanding
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Originally posted by Werewolf:NS will toughen princesses
WOMEN should go through military training.
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girls, stop complaining...
guys, stop whining...
if you find that your girlfriends/boyfriends are treating you like sh*t, dump him/her and change to another. It's most probably that he/she is not the one for you. So, stop using whoever you are with currently or in the past to make sweeping judgement for the rest of the bunch.
And, guys, if you think your friends who are girls are exploiting you, wake up your bloody idea and don't be such an idiot! if you want to be exploited by them knowingly, don't complain about girls cos you're the dumb one. -
this can go on for another 7564562 years...........
never ends..... -
started long time ago, in a galaxy far far away...
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That's why I say it is a good seller ma.....
Old yet always sellable stuff
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IT'S ALL PHILLIP YEO'S FAULT!!!
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What a waste of time! Do you have any views yourself?Originally posted by Werewolf:That's why I say it is a good seller ma.....
Old yet always sellable stuff -
can la. and then men must voluntarily contract the flu once every 28 days and also undergo some painful bowel surgery(without anethesia) at least once in their lifetime. Lidat then men will be less whiny and will not think that NS is so liao bu qi.Originally posted by Werewolf:Supplementary to the article above.
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NS will toughen princesses
WOMEN should go through military training.
This, said some male university undergraduates, would help make the women less demanding.
About 78 per cent of the men polled said their national service stint had made a world of difference to them.
Said Mr Samuel He, 21, of NTU: 'NS gives you a broader perspective on life - you experience so much more and meet a wide variety of people.'
Many men said NS made them tougher, both mentally and physically.
Mr Jared Foo, 23, from NTU, said: 'I knew a girl whose maid would go to the hostel to clean her room.
'No guy who's been through NS would ever call his mother and complain about anything.'
What about the women's complaint that men are indecisive?
Mr Li Siwei, a 21-year-old NUS student, said: 'When deciding where to eat, they'll say, 'I don't know' and 'It's up to you'. But when the guys decide, they still complain.'
Mr Jan Han, 23, from NTU, said: 'They are pro-feminism and yet they want chivalry. It's totally contradictory and you never know how they want you to behave.' -
I think working for newpaper can make a lot of money... I just write a article along the lines of "Poll: What local women really think about local men" or controversial ones like " 'I would rather marry a foreign girl.' says successful yuppie"...
Sure the newpaper will sell more copies ... -
What about the majority of males who have to put up with partners who contact flu every 28 days and undergo painful bowel surgery without anethesia?Originally posted by HENG@:can la. and then men must voluntarily contract the flu once every 28 days and also undergo some painful bowel surgery(without anethesia) at least once in their lifetime. Lidat then men will be less whiny and will not think that NS is so liao bu qi. -
What about them? Are you one of them? - if not how can you comment?Originally posted by Werewolf:What about the majority of males who have to put up with partners who contact flu every 28 days and undergo painful bowel surgery without anethesia?