ERP going to increase in oct. anyone knw y?
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they ask us to take public transport leh!!!
but hor what is public transport? is Taxi considered as public transport? When I take taxi, I am consider a innocent pedestrain correct? BUT WHY DO WE INNOCENT PEDESTRAINS HAVE TO PAY ERP WHEN WE TAKE TAXI?
maybe i stupid, cos i onli had PSLE level, but is taxi not considered public transport meh? In the first place, why izzit buses and taxis have to pay ERP huh? their numbers not controlled meh? If so, why must ERP be imposed on them?
cos i study very little, so i wan to ask : does it mean that if buses and taxis are exempted from ERP, then all the buses and taxis will rush into ERP areas? i think its very funny lor. or they scared that if taxis are exempted from ERP, everyone will scrap their private cars and all switch to driving taxis?
i really dunno lor, but when im at orchard hor, i very hard to take cabs lor. the ERP areas are devoid of taxis especially during peak hours. u try to take a cab at pargo bugis junction taxi stand lar and see how frustrating it is to take a cab. No cab driver will want to pay ERP to go in lor. so i always wait long long. sometimes more than 3hrs leh and always long queue. LTA dun want to attract tourists to come here to shop izzit?
if yes, then why are they not making it attractive for taxis to go into ERP areas huh? Why must taxi taking passengers pay ERP huh? We are not car owners leh but hor we are being penalised for that lor.
soli my english very poor cos i study till psle onli..
ERP hours to be extended for Orchard Rd, CTE areas
By Dominique Loh, Channel NewsAsia
SINGAPORE : The Land Transport Authority is adding new Electronic Road Pricing (ERP) gantries along the Central Expressway (CTE) and Orchard Road in an effort to ease peak hour traffic flow in those areas.
ERP operating hours at Orchard Road will also be extended by an hour and into the weekend.
The LTA wants to cut the link between Orchard Road and the rest of the Central Business District.
This is because its own survey had found that about 30 percent of motorists bypass Orchard Road without stopping to shop.
And that adds to the traffic snarl towards the end of each day.
Dr Chin Kian Keong, Chief Engineer of Transportation at LTA, said: "What we want is to have Orchard as a distinct cordon from the CBD and so we can introduce different charges at different times of the day. The intent is to benefit genuine shoppers so those who are using Orchard to bypass the CBD will be discouraged from doing so."
Two gantries will be added near the former Cathay Building and near the YMCA.
From October, the Orchard Road gantries will charge between 50 cents and $2.50 during weekdays and 50 cents on Saturdays.
All the Orchard Road ERP charges will end at 8pm.
The ERP charges at Orchard will be independent from the charges going into the CBD.
This is because of the difference in traffic patterns in both areas.
In October when the change takes effect, at least it would not cost motorists anything to go into Orchard during the morning hours.
Reactions from motorists are mixed.
"What? I have to pay again to get out?"
"I think it's better."
For motorists living in the northern parts of Singapore, going home may cost them a little more when they use the Central Expressway.
From August 1 on weekdays from 6pm to 8pm, motorists heading north along the CTE will be charged between 50 cents and a dollar.
LTA said initially, it had deferred using ERP charges to control traffic jams.
In 2002, it widened the expressway with one additional lane.
The opening of the North East MRT line also provided alternatives for commuters.
Dr Chin added: "That helped but did not help for very long. Six months later, and today it is just as congested as before. So the ERP gantry is to help manage traffic conditions so that the CTE will be optimised and traffic will flow at its optimal condition."
Apart from revamping the ERP system from time to time, the LTA is also encouraging commuters to consider using alternative routes and public transportation to help ease Singapore's traffic woes.
Last year, the LTA collected about $77 million from ERP charges alone. It maintains the latest ERP changes were not designed as a revenue generating exercise. - CNA/de -
I tell you lah... Ever since ERP came in 1998, govt revenue went up super fast... Last time SBS bus dun need to pay, now need to pay...
Then, everywhere have ERP... As if entire SG is restricted zone -
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traffic jam is just an excuse for them to generate more revenue.
drive a car you die,
talk public transport also die. -
good move by LTA!
they cancel the ERP charge for CTE for poor people and make the people work n live city pay more. why complain?(unless you live over that area) -
CTE ERP got cancel meh???? Instead they are implementing it on weekdays evenings too lo! Poor drivers who live in the north will have no choice but to pay for it when they go home from work. Its not alleviating the traffice jam problem at all as these people die die will have to take that route home. The problem lies with the increasing development of the northern area (more people living there in new estates like Sengkang and Punggol) but no new infrastructures to facilitate north-south travelling, hence the govt should open up more roads or e-way to allow these people to travel north-south instead of implementing the ERP which is a no-brainer short-cut "solution".Originally posted by kingofbeholder:good move by LTA!
they cancel the ERP charge for CTE for poor people and make the people work n live city pay more. why complain?(unless you live over that area) -
Another thing here, all thks to increase of ERP gantries and toll, bus co also kena.. Last time it was free, no burden... No have to pay ERPOriginally posted by dragg:traffic jam is just an excuse for them to generate more revenue.
drive a car you die,
talk public transport also die.
Got MP asked bef why public buses need to pay ERP. Minister said SBS bus also use road space mah, so must pay -
Now they have given the SBS a VALID reason to increase their fare.
LTA have just increased the operating charges for SBS with ERP charges.
So, the winners is alway one side of the fence.
No need to waste any time to argue against any increase of fare or charges in the future.
The concerned authorities are always prepared to counter-act any opposition.
Due to the Ezlink card discrepencies, SBS have recently been putting pamplets in buses to "EDUCATE" pathetic singaporean to use the EZ Link Card CORRECTLY after two years of usage.
The consumers are at fault for the over-charging and assisting the SBS and SMRT in harvesting huge profits years after years. -
That ez-link card ar... Sometimes it is ppl that never read what is going with the card reader... Bef the VLS was introduced, TV News and Newspaper had already reported abt it... But many Singaporeans are the bo chap type...Originally posted by Medicated Oil:Now they have given the SBS a VALID reason to increase their fare.
LTA have just increased the operating charges for SBS with ERP charges.
So, the winners is alway one side of the fence.
No need to waste any time to argue against any increase of fare or charges in the future.
The concerned authorities are always prepared to counter-act any opposition.
Due to the Ezlink card discrepencies, SBS have recently been putting pamplets in buses to "EDUCATE" pathetic singaporean to use the EZ Link Card CORRECTLY after two years of usage.
The consumers are at fault for the over-charging and assisting the SBS and SMRT in harvesting huge profits years after years.
But not that all passengers are at fault, the VLS system itself also got prob... -
I don't understand. You mean that SMRT buses and CSS 608 no need to pay ERP?Originally posted by sbst275:I tell you lah... Ever since ERP came in 1998, govt revenue went up super fast... Last time SBS bus dun need to pay, now need to pay...
Then, everywhere have ERP... As if entire SG is restricted zone
Since when public buses need to pay ERP?
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All buses need to lah...Originally posted by tranquilice:I don't understand. You mean that SMRT buses and CSS 608 no need to pay ERP?
Since when public buses need to pay ERP?
Ever since ERP came... Got until a MP asked in parliment why buses need to pay, minister said as public buses uses road space, must pay ERP -
When KPE opens in a few years time, expect ERP to be implemented there also.
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So police cars, ambulances etc..... also need to pay ERP?Originally posted by sbst275:All buses need to lah...
Ever since ERP came... Got until a MP asked in parliment why buses need to pay, minister said as public buses uses road space, must pay ERP -
Govt vehicle, I dun know.. Even so, who is paying ar?Originally posted by tranquilice:So police cars, ambulances etc..... also need to pay ERP? 
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I think they are exempted from ERP.Originally posted by sbst275:Govt vehicle, I dun know.. Even so, who is paying ar? -
Maybe.. But buses confirm no more, if not why MP KPKB...Originally posted by tranquilice:I think they are exempted from ERP. -
Is it announced in the news?Originally posted by sbst275:Maybe.. But buses confirm no more, if not why MP KPKB... -
Got.. In parliment...Originally posted by tranquilice:Is it announced in the news?
What happened was this
The MP asked the tpt minister why public buses need to pay ERP now since they are public transportation.
Then the minister replied as they add to the traffic volume and uses road space, so must pay ERP
Then MP asked, why RPS time dun need... And why MRT enter CBD dun need to pay?
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Which MP asked this stupid question? (highlighted in blue)Originally posted by sbst275:Got.. In parliment...
What happened was this
The MP asked the tpt minister why public buses need to pay ERP now since they are public transportation.
Then the minister replied as they add to the traffic volume and uses road space, so must pay ERP
Then MP asked, why RPS time dun need... And why MRT enter CBD dun need to pay?
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I clearly remember it was a bench-backer..Originally posted by tranquilice:Which MP asked this stupid question? (highlighted in blue) MRT trains entering CBD don't pay ERP cause they don't run on the roads!
It was raised when bus fares went up... -
That's almost 3 years ago.Originally posted by sbst275:I clearly remember it was a bench-backer..
It was raised when bus fares went up... -
1830 news said that LTA collected $3M from bus co last yrOriginally posted by tranquilice:That's almost 3 years ago.
And said that they only collected $77M last yr, compared to $100M bef ERP came... Last time can enter how many times, same at $2... Now, enter once, pay once, enter twice, pay twice -
pple in charge feel we common s'poreans too rich, so not fair, so we should contribute more $$$. we are all very dumb folks with no brains, so they never worry we'll question their true intentions.
either that or LTA's numerous scholars all got brain-freeze from working too hard counting their $$$, so can only think of this one 'solution', which we common dumb s'poreans can tell immediately that it won't work...