hate japanese?
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Alot of them in Singapore , must be careful of them kays?Originally posted by FireIce:tts history liao
dun so geh gao lah
i oni dun like the jipoonese-wannabes now......... -
The problem with these things....is.....it's a 'collective' thingy.....so when I say I hate the Japanese for the war crimes they did, I don't know who exactly I should blame? I dont exactly know who specifically did what? Is it right to blame every individual Japanese? Just because he/ she happen to be born as a Japanese and has nothing to do with the war?
I do hate SOME Japanese, but Im having problem placing the blame and grasping this 'collective' thingy. -
Come on, this happen like last millenium man...or last century. Americans killed many Indians, Germans killed many Jews, China also killed some of its own people..every country has their own faults in the past. Was there any need to dig this topic up again when you could have easily search for previous topics in the archives?
Well, since you brough it up..personally, after reading the book "Rape of Nanking" I was furious about the atrocities committed. I dont blame the Japanese people, but I blame the Japanese government. During the war, the japanese people are mostly ingnorant of what their government has committed. In addition to that this astrocities is limited to a few commanding officers and even the emperor did not know anything about it. -
That's too easy. Should just cut his "xiao di" off and send him on his way.Originally posted by margarita:bang!bang! i jus shot the dam jap soldier ..
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It's time to move on...cannot dwell on history.Originally posted by margarita:watching a movie on second world war. wondering do u guys hate japanese or have no feeling? how u feel?
But never forget its lessons. -
me too.Originally posted by Kenneth Tan Jian Wei:I love Japanese AV idols.
It's cos they rape our women. So now it's our turn to watch their women kenna rape!!!!!! -
haha. i love japanese girls. those very very pretty ones and cute
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Yah, should hate the war not Japanese. Russia also create war, USA also create war on Iraq. Eventually all countries must hate? Anyway, Japanese now has contributed so much to the movie industry, so just forgive them.
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Agree.Originally posted by Kenneth Tan Jian Wei:I love Japanese AV idols. -
which country didnt commit atrocities during the course of a war.
history has proven that all races are equally guilty.
women always suffer the most. -
Paradise Road is a good movie. I actually enjoy it. Watch the good side of the movie and you learn true courage.
As to the raping and killing and destroying.. that is part of all wars regardless of who started the war or who are involved.
Wars of all nature are everywhere. We cannot eradicate all wars.
Rape and killing...those really sucks yet we ask ourselves.. why rape? why kill? Those who got raped...at times we said they asked for it cos the way they dress or strut around. Those who got killed... read the article in New Paper yesterday "Roadside durian fight ends in tragedy" (http://newpaper.asia1.com.sg/news/story/0,4136,90007,00.html?) how a young guy got stabbed with a durian knife in Penang. Did he deserve it? Sad case really yet it happened...
Sad as it might be... enjoy movie for the good nature of it. Don't get too worked up. Don't hate for we do not really know who should be hated... -
I agree with many that the WWII is history.
But I think some (can be many) Japanese still think that their country is the victim nation and never the aggressor nation. Among other reasons, this can be due to some of their errorneous textbooks; and of course, right wingers, ultra-nationalists activities.
But we also have to understand that history is never perfect. Each country would like to present it's past in the utmost clean and good manner.
Throughout the history of mankind, history always repeating itself. Can modern histroy be any different? -
i LOVE japanese.. girls.
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Half correct.
Personally, I can forgive, but I guess most of us can't forget. Anyway, my grandpa actually lost his first wife and son during that time.
It's not the matter of being "geh gao". If the Japanese, even the younger generation like us now, really understand what happened that time, and feel that their forefathers shouldn't have done that, fine.
But you'll be surprised when I watched some street interviews conducted with them, and they actually said there isn't a need to be remorseful, and they actually think that the deeds they've done weren't wrong.
That is what that infuriates me. -
One cannot rape the willing.....Originally posted by Rocker128:me too.
It's cos they rape our women. So now it's our turn to watch their women kenna rape!!!!!!
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Half correct.
I understand your feeling. My grandpa was sent to hard labour during WWII by the Japanese soldiers and he lost some of his toes. How he lost his toes, he never told us. Throughout his life, he walked with a slight limp.
Personally, I can forgive, but I guess most of us can't forget. Anyway, my grandpa actually lost his first wife and son during that time.
It's not the matter of being "geh gao". If the Japanese, even the younger generation like us now, really understand what happened that time, and feel that their forefathers shouldn't have done that, fine.
But you'll be surprised when I watched some street interviews conducted with them, and they actually said there isn't a need to be remorseful, and they actually think that the deeds they've done weren't wrong.
That is what that infuriates me
At later part of his life during his old age, ganggrene set and he had to have his leg ampulated. I remember being sad to see my grandpa so old and suffering so much.
My grandpa has passed away for many years now. But when I think of my grandpa, the memories of my grandpa suffering still lingers on..... -
i like too.Originally posted by Kenneth Tan Jian Wei:I love Japanese AV idols. -
My grandfather had bullet fragments lodged in his shin and he couldn't really walk for too long.Got shot at a few times..think he was a resistance fighter.But he never liked talking about it, and so we never pressed him.Originally posted by pat33:I understand your feeling. My grandpa was sent to hard labour during WWII by the Japanese soldiers and he lost some of his toes. How he lost his toes, he never told us. Throughout his life, he walked with a slight limp.
At later part of his life during his old age, ganggrene set and he had to have his leg ampulated. I remember being sad to see my grandpa so old and suffering so much.
My grandpa has passed away for many years now. But when I think of my grandpa, the memories of my grandpa suffering still lingers on.....
He's gone to a better place now..
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we have enough sad and negative things in one lifetime.
i know nobody can ever forget what happened. but what good does it serves carrying it inside us.
try as much as you can not to think about it.
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that's exactly why the big hoo-haa over the text books. Some of the twisted text books even went to the extent to say that it is the other countries that provoked JP, or started the conflicts.Originally posted by pat33:But I think some (can be many) Japanese still think that their country is the victim nation and never the aggressor nation. Among other reasons, this can be due to some of their errorneous textbooks; and of course, right wingers, ultra-nationalists activities.
How far can a lie go?
It is true that the common Japanese now still have the idea that they are the victims of war! From being an aggressor, they are now the victims.
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Why we dont have such a problem with the Germans? Coz they truely showed deep remorse! Did they twist their history to their liking? No!
Many SG people dont hate Japanese becoz they dont feel the effect of it. Either none of their family members suffered during the JP occupation or they dont empathize.
I myself dont hate the Japanese, I juz want the JP Govt to face up to the truth and not twist the facts anymore. They've been lying for 60 years!
Many SG dont know about the JP putting lies in their history books, and now our garmen, representing the whole of SG, tells the JP that it is ok for them to continue to lie. Perhaps even agree to their lie. sheesh -
they lied cos they r ashamed of wat they did but yet they r too proud to admit they r wrong. Not every Japanese supported the war.
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If the Japs are brave enough to face up to their sordid past, they deserve our respect. But what they are doing right now is morally wrong. For a start, the government officials must stop honouring Tojo's remains.Originally posted by margarita:they lied cos they r ashamed of wat they did but yet they r too proud to admit they r wrong. Not every Japanese supported the war. -
hey hey.they were the recepients of 2 atomic bombs.isn't tat punishment severe enough?u noe how much dmg it cost?forgive but dun forget.
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The innocent civillians, as usual were the worst victims. Many died from radiation exposure. However, if the Japanese Army did not insist on fighting till the last drop of blood, or if WW2 had not spread to Asia-Pacific, the atom bombs would not have been deployed. In any case, the Americans' use of such weapons had the Russians on the edge of their seats in years to come.Originally posted by stellazio:hey hey.they were the recepients of 2 atomic bombs.isn't tat punishment severe enough?u noe how much dmg it cost?forgive but dun forget. -
ultraman will prevent ww3 from happening
