do u think ppl who speak excessive hokien is low class?
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Originally posted by daphne_1802:
I think the critical word is "shout".....reminds me of me shouting Hokkien to my grandfather, not because I'm using expletives to scold him but because he is hard of hearing....
seriously if i am a foreigner and i havent been living in singapore, if i hear someone shouting in hokien, i would think they are scolding me. i choose to stay away as much as possible to ppl in this category
Similarly, what will be your first impression if someone shouts, not necessarily at you, using other languages? Are they scolding you? Not very likely. For example, those people that keep shouting "Lelong, Lelong!....", do you think they are scolding at you? -
relax lah...Originally posted by CoolMyth:I think the critical word is "shout".....reminds me of me shouting Hokkien to my grandfather, not because I'm using expletives to scold him but because he is hard of hearing....
Similarly, what will be your first impression if someone shouts, not necessarily at you, using other languages? Are they scolding you? Not very likely. For example, those people that keep shouting "Lelong, Lelong!....", do you think they are scolding at you?
dun get so worked up... -
Paiseh, got a bit carried away....Originally posted by laurence82:Har? Since when i said speaking Hokkien reflects badly on me or that Hokkien is a vulgar language by itself?
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its depressing my school is half filled with these ppl who only speak hokien and chinese. i can assure u in any given day, u will hear the word ccb and at least 2 other hokien vulgarities if u sit in the canteen for an hour. these ppl actually shout them across the canteen shamelessly. its even sadder than ppl do not even read newspaper or never even heard of famous singers like..say eminem or britney spears. u may disagree with me but i think these ppl who behave immaturely ought to be shot
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Nothing, right?Originally posted by Mr Fugue:where got? -
to sum it up
language stereotypes. -
Nah, I'm not worked up or anything.....Originally posted by hyuuga neji:relax lah...
dun get so worked up... Just felt like using some "brain-power" and improving my argumentative skills and suddenly saw this topic.... -
wo bu zhi dao.Originally posted by CoolMyth:Nothing, right? -
relax bro...Originally posted by CoolMyth:Nah, I'm not worked up or anything..... Just felt like using some "brain-power" and improving my argumentative skills and suddenly saw this topic....
dun get so worked up. -
har? Eminem is a frequent user of expletives so much, that his first song alreadi kena censored like hellOriginally posted by daphne_1802:its depressing my school is half filled with these ppl who only speak hokien and chinese. i can assure u in any given day, u will hear the word ccb and at least 2 other hokien vulgarities if u sit in the canteen for an hour. these ppl actually shout them across the canteen shamelessly. its even sadder than ppl do not even read newspaper or never even heard of famous singers like..say eminem or britney spears. u may disagree with me but i think these ppl who behave immaturely ought to be shot
Anyone rem Slim Shady?
So to sum it also, ms daphne want us to use expletives...in engrish....... -
Originally posted by daphne_1802:
eminem??? britney spears???
its depressing my school is half filled with these ppl who only speak hokien and chinese. i can assure u in any given day, u will hear the word ccb and at least 2 other hokien vulgarities if u sit in the canteen for an hour. these ppl actually shout them across the canteen shamelessly. its even sadder than ppl do not even read newspaper or never even heard of famous singers like..say eminem or britney spears. u may disagree with me but i think these ppl who behave immaturely ought to be shot
I feel like presenting: The Real Slim Shady by eminem....
"The Real Slim Shady"
[Eminem]
May I have your attention please?
May I have your attention please?
Will the real Slim Shady please stand up?
I repeat, will the real Slim Shady please stand up?
We're gonna have a problem here..
Y'all act like you never seen a white person before
Jaws all on the floor like Pam, like Tommy just burst in the door
and started whoopin her ass worse than before
they first were divorce, throwin her over furniture (Ahh!)
It's the return of the... "Ah, wait, no way, you're kidding,
he didn't just say what I think he did, did he?"
And Dr. Dre said... nothing you idiots!
Dr. Dre's dead, he's locked in my basement! (Ha-ha!)
Feminist women love Eminem
[*vocal turntable: chigga chigga chigga*]
"Slim Shady, I'm sick of him
Look at him, walkin around grabbin his you-know-what
Flippin the you-know-who," "Yeah, but he's so cute though!"
Yeah, I probably got a couple of screws up in my head loose
But no worse, than what's goin on in your parents' bedrooms
Sometimes, I wanna get on TV and just let loose, but can't
but it's cool for Tom Green to hump a dead moose
"My bum is on your lips, my bum is on your lips"
And if I'm lucky, you might just give it a little kiss
And that's the message that we deliver to little kids
And expect them not to know what a woman's clitoris is
Of course they gonna know what intercourse is
By the time they hit fourth grade
They got the Discovery Channel don't they?
"We ain't nothing but mammals.." Well, some of us cannibals
who cut other people open like cantaloupes [SLURP]
But if we can hump dead animals and antelopes
then there's no reason that a man and another man can't elope
[*EWWW!*] But if you feel like I feel, I got the antidote
Women wave your pantyhose, sing the chorus and it goes
[Chorus: Eminem (repeat 2X)]
I'm Slim Shady, yes I'm the real Shady
All you other Slim Shadys are just imitating
So won't the real Slim Shady please stand up,
please stand up, please stand up?
[Eminem]
Will Smith don't gotta cuss in his raps to sell his records;
well I do, so fuck him and fuck you too!
You think I give a damn about a Grammy?
Half of you critics can't even stomach me, let alone stand me
"But Slim, what if you win, wouldn't it be weird?"
Why? So you guys could just lie to get me here?
So you can, sit me here next to Britney Spears?
Shit, Christina Aguilera better switch me chairs
so I can sit next to Carson Daly and Fred Durst
and hear 'em argue over who she gave head to first
You little bitch, put me on blast on MTV
"Yeah, he's cute, but I think he's married to Kim, hee-hee!"
I should download her audio on MP3
and show the whole world how you gave Eminem VD [AHHH!]
I'm sick of you little girl and boy groups, all you do is annoy me
so I have been sent here to destroy you [bzzzt]
And there's a million of us just like me
who cuss like me; who just don't give a fuck like me
who dress like me; walk, talk and act like me
and just might be the next best thing but not quite me!
[Chorus]
[Eminem]
I'm like a head trip to listen to, cause I'm only givin you
things you joke about with your friends inside your living room
The only difference is I got the balls to say it
in front of y'all and I don't gotta be false or sugarcoated at all
I just get on the mic and spit it
and whether you like to admit it [*ERR*] I just shit it
better than ninety percent of you rappers out can
Then you wonder how can kids eat up these albums like valiums
It's funny; cause at the rate I'm goin when I'm thirty
I'll be the only person in the nursin home flirting
Pinchin nurses asses when I'm jackin off with Jergens
And I'm jerkin but this whole bag of Viagra isn't working
And every single person is a Slim Shady lurkin
He could be workin at Burger King, spittin on your onion rings
[*HACH*] Or in the parkin lot, circling
Screaming "I don't give a fuck!"
with his windows down and his system up
So, will the real Shady please stand up?
And put one of those fingers on each hand up?
And be proud to be outta your mind and outta control
and one more time, loud as you can, how does it go?
[Chorus 4X]
[Eminem]
Ha ha
Guess there's a Slim Shady in all of us
Fuck it, let's all stand up
How many expletives are there.....?
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french gangster screaming explicitives in frenchOriginally posted by Mr Fugue:to sum it up language stereotypes. high class???
average s'porean conversing in hokkien low class??? -
Originally posted by CoolMyth:
Sigh.Daphne needed two pages to get her point across.The role of language as a communication tool has failed.
".....[b]low class are those who has limited vocab and speaks only in hokien, always repeating the same few words that are almost all vulgarities and unplesant words...."
You've only met people who know only the "vulgar Hokkien"....It is unfortunate that your belief is that those who use them excessively is low class....
But have you met people who can speak about local and global affairs using Hokkien? Or even those who converse using Hokkien with no vulgar language involved?
Using expletives itself is a "low-class" act. But classifying those who often use Hokkien just to converse with others and bringing them together, saying that they are low class is seriously wrong.[/b] -
No, really, I'm fine here. I'm just into my "argumentative if a bit incoherent" mode....Originally posted by Mr Fugue:relax bro...
dun get so worked up.
So, miss or mister or "it" daphne wants us to scold expletives using other languages?.....I see the point. -
Originally posted by hyuuga neji:french gangster screaming explicitives in french high class???
average s'porean conversing in hokkien low class???
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so never heard of britney is low class???Originally posted by daphne_1802:its depressing my school is half filled with these ppl who only speak hokien and chinese. i can assure u in any given day, u will hear the word ccb and at least 2 other hokien vulgarities if u sit in the canteen for an hour. these ppl actually shout them across the canteen shamelessly. its even sadder than ppl do not even read newspaper or never even heard of famous singers like..say eminem or britney spears. u may disagree with me but i think these ppl who behave immaturely ought to be shot
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i'd rather english expletives than the hokien language in general. hearing a person speak in hokien can be more offensive than a single vulgarity in the english language. swearing in english does not make u low class. besides that, so what if eminem has explicit lyrics in his songs. he is famous because of that and it is the reason why his records go platinum in such a short time. he is certainly not low class.
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miss daphne...
let me ask you...
if a ang mo guy starts conversing in hokkien...
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realli , what lazerlord said is trueOriginally posted by daphne_1802:i'd rather english expletives than the hokien language in general. hearing a person speak in hokien can be more offensive than a single vulgarity in the english language. swearing in english does not make u low class. besides that, so what if eminem has explicit lyrics in his songs. he is famous because of that and it is the reason why his records go platinum in such a short time. he is certainly not low class.
u need two pages just to say you have unjustified prejudice against hokkien... -
i only see red crosses...Originally posted by CoolMyth:Come, I add this pic as well:
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Originally posted by Mr Fugue:
+1
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if an angmo knows how to speak hokien, he certainly has the brains to act mature enough not to spew hokien vulgarites that are the most hurting, unless neccessary. unlike some singaporean chinese especially who say it on purpose to offend ppl and to 'act' gangster which is uncool and low class. angmo itself is already a hokien word too.Originally posted by hyuuga neji:miss daphne...
let me ask you...
if a ang mo guy starts conversing in hokkien...
will he be deemed as low class or a very smart person??? -
English expletives > Hokkien language?Originally posted by daphne_1802:i'd rather english expletives than the hokien language in general. hearing a person speak in hokien can be more offensive than a single vulgarity in the english language. swearing in english does not make u low class. besides that, so what if eminem has explicit lyrics in his songs. he is famous because of that and it is the reason why his records go platinum in such a short time. he is certainly not low class.
You've seriously failed in life.Originally posted by daphne_1802:
History of the word: "angmo"
if an angmo knows how to speak hokien, he certainly has the brains to act mature enough not to spew hokien vulgarites that are the most hurting, unless neccessary. unlike some singaporean chinese especially who say it on purpose to offend ppl and to 'act' gangster which is uncool and low class. angmo itself is already a hokien word too.
In past feudal China, the Emperor considers himself as the "Son of God" and his country as the "most civilized country" in the world. Their first interaction with outsiders were from the Persia area. Because their skin has been somewhat "sunburnt", hence these "barbarians" are referred to as "Hong Mao" (Red skin).
As time evolved, the word "Hong Mao", literally translated into Hokkien is "ang" (Red) and "mo" (Skin/Hair) and hence "angmo". "angmo" itself is not a Hokkien word. Please do not have this misunderstanding.
I think the only Hokkien words you know are "KNNBCCB" and "NLB".....hence I cannot fault your misconception of Hokkien though it's clear you do not have any wish to further your understanding of the language and clear your misconception. For that, you've failed in life. Go and die now. Thank you very much!